Court Orders Turkey to Pay Cyprus Over Invasion

[SammyPops]

what Turkey can do is get a summary copy of the judgment and then makes copies and hand it out to their citizens who will then proceed to wipe their asses with it each time that they take a shit.

except turkey wants t join said club. not good optics

 

[ElKarlo]

Do you read the full post, or snooze after the first paragraph. Read the 3rd paragraph. Doesn't matter who calls who what. The modern Turkish Republic is not the same as the Ottoman regime, which you may accuse of a number of things from invading Eastern Europe to conquering Anatolia to various atrocities. I do however, think the case for the Armenian atrocity has basis, since the modern Turkish Republic grew out of the same military that committed the act in the first place (Ataturk himself being an Ottoman officer), and the connection to the Young Turks who also took part in said activity. In other words: you can make a case that the Turkish Republic divided Cyprus into two, but then say, to blame them of dividing Greece into two (Greece proper, and Greek Anatolia) would be absurd.

DOn't care about reparations here, but what you are saying is patently false.

Spain, and France have radically different governments than they did under their expansionist pasts. The UK is more or less the same though.
I would say if it applies to them, then it would apply to Turkey, as they all have experienced serious government changes. Save for that Turkey's was much more modern with the changes under Ataturk.

 

[Jukai]

Eh. Turkey should probably start by paying back the 10's of millions of people that they displaced and the 10's of million of people that they've slaughtered and subjected to genocide over the past 200 years.

People like to point out only the caliphates and other Arab muslims and whatnot but the Seljuks and Ottomans were probably the most ruthless savages to ever exist.

So uhm.... this.

 

[7437]

So uhm.... this.

I was under the impression demanding reparations after a war was no longer an ok thing to do, after the whole deal with the treaty of Versailles

 

[Kalmah]

Yeah except this is a little more recent (1974) than the Ottoman Empire or the colonisation of Africa..

 

[tkotom]

All Britain does is give out charity to Africa, if we were made to pay reparations for past atrocities it would be a damn sight less than what we've paid already in aid over the last fifty or so years.

If it was even suggested there'd be a huge backlash and people would make petitions to stop giving aid to them - and rightfully so.

All the USA and Europe have done is shower these countries with aid. Billions upon billions of dollars. They get rid of their dictators, they give them military protection and they let the people immigrate to their nations at absolutely no benefit but a burden to their own countries in many cases.

The argument of slavery and wars and whatever else when it comes to reparations is always a major deflection.

 

[Judo Thai Boxer]

All the USA and Europe have done is shower these countries with aid. Billions upon billions of dollars. They get rid of their dictators, they give them military protection and they let the people immigrate to their nations at absolutely no benefit but a burden to their own countries in many cases.

The argument of slavery and wars and whatever else when it comes to reparations is always a major deflection.

I'd be more than happy if we didn't help other countries. Would you prefer that?

 

[tkotom]

I'd be more than happy if we didn't help other countries. Would you prefer that?

I think we should continue to help other countries.
Just saying, the guilt is overdone.

 

[Judo Thai Boxer]

I think we should continue to help other countries.
Just saying, the guilt is overdone.

I may have misunderstood what you said. When you were saying it was a burden to their own countries did you mean the ones receiving aid or the ones giving it?

 

[tkotom]

I may have misunderstood what you said. When you were saying it was burden to their own countries did you mean the ones receiving aid or the ones giving it?

The ones giving it. Perhaps I could have worded that better.

 

[Judo Thai Boxer]

The ones giving it. Perhaps I could have worded that better.

Nah it was my mistake, I've just been out for a few drinks so my reading comprehension isn't all there.

 

[PreTUF**]

Turkey is animalistic country filled with brainless barbarians trying to pretend they are "white" and European. The things they did to Armenians is well documented things like beheading youngsters and playing fotball with the head and forcing the family to watch.

FUck Turkey.

 

[Supereem]

Turkey is animalistic country filled with brainless barbarians trying to pretend they are "white" and European. The things they did to Armenians is well documented things like beheading youngsters and playing fotball with the head and forcing the family to watch.

FUck Turkey.

Yeah it is funny that Turks want to European yet still carry on like the Barbarians that earned them the title "Terrible Turks".

Turks carry out stupid shit day in and day out. For example, that ridiculous movie about the Fall of Constantinople, with all its made up bullshit trying to justify the invasion, slaughter and utter cowardliness the Turks showed towards the broken Byzantines. That movie was a hit in Turkey, which shows the social consciousness is still in its batshit crazy Muslim phase (despite its 1930s move to secularism).

A critic who criticized the movie for being built on bullshit and being nationalistic was attacked on a huge scale by the Turkish public, who even went so far as to analyze their facial features and "discover" that they where actually Armenian (they where infact full Turkish).


Edickgan, when he travelled to Egypt, labelled Byzantium as an immoral/dark Empire (just like the movie) despite the last Emperor being more or less celibate compared to the Sultans who had an entire harem.


Other MPs in his party have called for Hagia Sophia to be converted back into a Mosque. The conversion of HS to a museum and banning worship was a crucial step for friendly talks with Greece (and to a lesser extent the rest of the Balkans) and Turkey. Even today many Greeks still flock to Hagia Sophia, and the Church is featured prominently in Greek culture. Even the thought of closing it to Greek's again is infuriating.


Then to top it all off is this Neo-Ottoman shit that is supposed to restore Turkish Hegemony over its neighbours. Is Turkey fucking insane? There is no way in hell that Greece would ever be part of a Turkish hegemony.


Turkey is not in the best position to be playing hardball. They are not a member of the EU, and are not on friendly terms with either Persia, Russia or Israel. In Europe it has Greece which leads the Balkans Battlegroup which would unite against Turkey at the drop of a hat, hopefully with the rest of the mainland EU behind it. Even the Arabs have little respect for Turkey, considering they themselves were occupied by the Ottomans until the last century.

The best thing it has going for it is that its a member of NATO, but that is not going to allow them to restore any sort of hegemony over its neighbours.

And despite how they have turned it into a shit hole, the Queen of All Cities is still a jewel many countries have their eye on. Im sure Putin wouldn't mind adding it to his Empire.

 

[Cherdawg]

Turkey is animalistic country filled with brainless barbarians trying to pretend they are "white" and European. The things they did to Armenians is well documented things like beheading youngsters and playing fotball with the head and forcing the family to watch.

FUck Turkey.

Lol if you have hate in your heart let it out brother!

Yeah it is funny that Turks want to European yet still carry on like the Barbarians that earned them the title "Terrible Turks".

Turks carry out stupid shit day in and day out. For example, that ridiculous movie about the Fall of Constantinople, with all its made up bullshit trying to justify the invasion, slaughter and utter cowardliness the Turks showed towards the broken Byzantines. That movie was a hit in Turkey, which shows the social consciousness is still in its batshit crazy Muslim phase (despite its 1930s move to secularism).

A critic who criticized the movie for being built on bullshit and being nationalistic was attacked on a huge scale by the Turkish public, who even went so far as to analyze their facial features and "discover" that they where actually Armenian (they where infact full Turkish).


Edickgan, when he travelled to Egypt, labelled Byzantium as an immoral/dark Empire (just like the movie) despite the last Emperor being more or less celibate compared to the Sultans who had an entire harem.


Other MPs in his party have called for Hagia Sophia to be converted back into a Mosque. The conversion of HS to a museum and banning worship was a crucial step for friendly talks with Greece (and to a lesser extent the rest of the Balkans) and Turkey. Even today many Greeks still flock to Hagia Sophia, and the Church is featured prominently in Greek culture. Even the thought of closing it to Greek's again is infuriating.


Then to top it all off is this Neo-Ottoman shit that is supposed to restore Turkish Hegemony over its neighbours. Is Turkey fucking insane? There is no way in hell that Greece would ever be part of a Turkish hegemony.


Turkey is not in the best position to be playing hardball. They are not a member of the EU, and are not on friendly terms with either Persia, Russia or Israel. In Europe it has Greece which leads the Balkans Battlegroup which would unite against Turkey at the drop of a hat, hopefully with the rest of the mainland EU behind it. Even the Arabs have little respect for Turkey, considering they themselves were occupied by the Ottomans until the last century.

The best thing it has going for it is that its a member of NATO, but that is not going to allow them to restore any sort of hegemony over its neighbours.

And despite how they have turned it into a shit hole, the Queen of All Cities is still a jewel many countries have their eye on. Im sure Putin wouldn't mind adding it to his Empire.

Hagia Sophia to be converted back into a Mosque?
They ought to apologise for even suggesting it. The thought of someone doing that doesnt sit well with me at all. These barbaric heathens think they can just do as they please by desecrating an iconic place of history just because it suits their religion.

 

[PreTUF**]

no such thing as istanbul, its Constantinople.

 

[tkotom]

Yeah it is funny that Turks want to European yet still carry on like the Barbarians that earned them the title "Terrible Turks".

Turks carry out stupid shit day in and day out. For example, that ridiculous movie about the Fall of Constantinople, with all its made up bullshit trying to justify the invasion, slaughter and utter cowardliness the Turks showed towards the broken Byzantines. That movie was a hit in Turkey, which shows the social consciousness is still in its batshit crazy Muslim phase (despite its 1930s move to secularism).

A critic who criticized the movie for being built on bullshit and being nationalistic was attacked on a huge scale by the Turkish public, who even went so far as to analyze their facial features and "discover" that they where actually Armenian (they where infact full Turkish).


Edickgan, when he travelled to Egypt, labelled Byzantium as an immoral/dark Empire (just like the movie) despite the last Emperor being more or less celibate compared to the Sultans who had an entire harem.


Other MPs in his party have called for Hagia Sophia to be converted back into a Mosque. The conversion of HS to a museum and banning worship was a crucial step for friendly talks with Greece (and to a lesser extent the rest of the Balkans) and Turkey. Even today many Greeks still flock to Hagia Sophia, and the Church is featured prominently in Greek culture. Even the thought of closing it to Greek's again is infuriating.


Then to top it all off is this Neo-Ottoman shit that is supposed to restore Turkish Hegemony over its neighbours. Is Turkey fucking insane? There is no way in hell that Greece would ever be part of a Turkish hegemony.


Turkey is not in the best position to be playing hardball. They are not a member of the EU, and are not on friendly terms with either Persia, Russia or Israel. In Europe it has Greece which leads the Balkans Battlegroup which would unite against Turkey at the drop of a hat, hopefully with the rest of the mainland EU behind it. Even the Arabs have little respect for Turkey, considering they themselves were occupied by the Ottomans until the last century.

The best thing it has going for it is that its a member of NATO, but that is not going to allow them to restore any sort of hegemony over its neighbours.

And despite how they have turned it into a shit hole, the Queen of All Cities is still a jewel many countries have their eye on. Im sure Putin wouldn't mind adding it to his Empire.

That's one shithole that if Putin and his "civil defense force" rolled into, I would have no qualms watching him peacefully annex the shit out of it.

The 10's of millions that have died at the hands of the Turks who still act like an empire and white wash the Assyrian, Greek and Armenian genocides will get their justice.

Let Erdogan and his ottoman scum squirm.

What a sight that would be.

 

[tkotom]

Turkey is animalistic country filled with brainless barbarians trying to pretend they are "white" and European. The things they did to Armenians is well documented things like beheading youngsters and playing fotball with the head and forcing the family to watch.

FUck Turkey.

lol tell us how you really feel