Law Activision Blizzard to pay roughly $50 million in discrimination case settlement

[avenue94]

Seems you're the one getting butthurt lol.

You keep asking me for "evidence" when I'm just stating my opinion. I'm noticing Western gaming studios making less attractive characters to cater to the feminist crowd. And sometimes I'm seeing blatant inserts of themselves by female devs into the games.

I see none of this in Asian gaming studios.

I presume you based your opinion on some evidence. Otherwise you're just hallucinating and posting on sherdog. Who are these devs inserting themselves into games?

 

[Hog-train]

I presume you based your opinion on some evidence. Otherwise you're just hallucinating and posting on sherdog. Who are these devs inserting themselves into games?

Again - you're asking me for evidence for an opinion. That's like me saying I like chocolate more than vanilla and you asking me to "prove" chocolate is better with evidence.

I can't "prove" a game isn't good because that's a subjective opinion.

Sherdog doesn't let us post pics, but an example would be the game, Fable, and one of the devs Chris Morris who is a self described nonbinary transfem they/them. The main character is fugly. Can't "prove" the connection but that's what I believe.

The SJW/feminist/woke politics that are in comics, some movies are also in gaming. I can't "prove" content is woke, but it's obvious IMO. I mean they literally have 2 comic book characters called Safe Space and Snowflake.

 

[avenue94]

Again - you're asking me for evidence for an opinion. That's like saying me saying I like chocolate more than vanilla and you asking me to "prove" chocolate is better with evidence.

I don't think you know what evidence is...If you chocolate more than vanilla, it is presumably because of reasons x,y, z. Opinions are frequently based off of reasoning or evidence. Whether said reasoning or evidence is sensible is another matter.

I can't "prove" a game isn't good because that's a subjective opinion.

You can name games you think were ruined by the ladies and why. That isn't very hard.

The SJW/feminist/woke politics that are in comics, some movies are also in gaming. I can't "prove" content is woke, but it's obvious IMO. I mean they literally have 2 comic book characters called Safe Space and Snowflake.

Yes...Call of Duty...that notoriously woke franchise. Ditto with Angry Birds. Lemme guess. You are convinced games are woke but can't provide a clear definition of what woke is

 

[Hog-train]

I don't think you know what evidence is...If you chocolate more than vanilla, it is presumably because of reasons x,y, z. Opinions are frequently based off of reasoning or evidence. Whether said reasoning or evidence is sensible is another matter.

Seems you don't know what evidence is. Evidence relates to OBJECTIVE facts. The reasons for a subjective opinion is not the same thing as evidence. Because it's SUBJECTIVE.

You can name games you think were ruined by the ladies and why. That isn't very hard.

Yes...Call of Duty...that notoriously woke franchise. Ditto with Angry Birds. Lemme guess. You are convinced games are woke but can't provide a clear definition of what woke is

I don't play Call of Duty nor do I play Angry Birds so I don't know what you're referring to with them. Games like Fable or the Last of Us sequel are good examples.

 

[avenue94]

I don't play Call of Duty nor do I play Angry Birds so I don't know what you're referring to with them. Games like Fable or the Last of Us sequel are good examples.

So in a discussino about Activision, you are whining about Xbox Studios property and the Last of Us II (I assume), to complain about women being bad for game design. Despite the fact that TLOU2 is overwhelmingly written, desigined and helmed by men. Because men make better video games, despite the fact that (I presume), they can't resist the siren call of feminism. What brilliant logic.

Seems you don't know what evidence is. Evidence relates to OBJECTIVE facts. The reasons for a subjective opinion is not the same thing as evidence. Because it's SUBJECTIVE.

Evidence can be objective or subjective. You should be able to provide subjective evidence of your position. It's not my fault you clearly have a poor understanding of logic and think all evidence is objective. (Here's a life tip: if all evidence was objective, lawsuits wouldn't be awarded on the basis of emotional trauma.)

 

[Hog-train]

So in a discussino about Activision, you are whining about Xbox Studios property and the Last of Us II (I assume), to complain about women being bad for game design. Despite the fact that TLOU2 is overwhelmingly written, desigined and helmed by men. Because men make better video games, despite the fact that (I presume), they can't resist the siren call of feminism. What brilliant logic.

Evidence can be objective or subjective. You should be able to provide subjective evidence of your position. It's not my fault you clearly have a poor understanding of logic and think all evidence is objective. (Here's a life tip: if all evidence was objective, lawsuits wouldn't be awarded on the basis of emotional trauma.)

You're obviously triggered. I think the feminist/SJW ideologies influencing games are making them worse. Same thing happened to Star Wars/She-Hulk and a bunch of other intellectual properties. Can't prove it, but that's my opinion. You may not like my opinion and you're free to disagree. Now stop bothering me about "evidence."

 

[avenue94]

You're obviously triggered. I think the feminist/SJW ideologies influencing games are making them worse. Same thing happened to Star Wars/She-Hulk and a bunch of other intellectual properties. Can't prove it, but that's my opinion. You may not like my opinion and you're free to disagree. Now stop bothering me about "evidence."

Triggered? All I've done is inquire why you think female devs make video games worse, and all I hear is whining bout comic books and shitty Disney+ shows.

. Can't prove it, but that's my opinion. You may not like my opinion and you're free to disagree. Now stop bothering me about "evidence."

Again...opinions are frequently based off of emotional evidence. The fact that you can't even make a simple argument of this female developer made Game X worse because of Y factor is telling.

 

[Hog-train]

Triggered? All I've done is inquire why you think female devs make video games worse, and all I hear is whining bout comic books and shitty Disney+ shows.

Again...opinions are frequently based off of emotional evidence. The fact that you can't even make a simple argument of this female developer made Game X worse because of Y factor is telling.

I'm talking about stupid shit like this. No one wants to play a fat pig as the protagonist in a game.

 

[Renard]

I'm saying in my opinion, female devs make a lot of games worse by injecting political woke agenda into games. You're free to disagree, but that's my take.

I know some people in the video game industry. From what they tell me when a studio is woke it's a deliberate decision that comes from the top and the lower echelons are expected to go along with it. Many studios are extremely woke, to a toxic degree. You might legitimately find some blue-haired Karens working there, but they were hired because they were a match to the company's direction. It's not the case at all that a company will hire a random employee and this random employee will start telling everyone what to do, what kind of creative direction a game should take, which political message should be inside the game, etc. You're delusional if you think a single employee has that power. When those messages find themselves into games it's because the top brass wanted them there, the minions decide zilch.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

What if you're a man that identifies as a woman who worked at Activision at the time? Do you get $$ as well?

Asking for a friend.

I'd like to see male nurses and grade-school staff sue their workplaces for the same sort of stuff.. I'm sure they've had similar, if not worse experiences in their female dominated fields.

Male nurses make more than women nurses. On average, female nurses make 91 cents on the dollar compared compared to men in nursing.

Males also earn more on average than females as elementary school teachers lol.

 

[Hog-train]

I know some people in the video game industry. From what they tell me when a studio is woke it's a deliberate decision that comes from the top and the lower echelons are expected to go along with it. Many studios are extremely woke, to a toxic degree. You might legitimately find some blue-haired Karens working there, but they were hired because they were a match to the company's direction. It's not the case at all that a company will hire a random employee and this random employee will start telling everyone what to do, what kind of creative direction a game should take, which political message should be inside the game, etc. You're delusional if you think a single employee has that power. When those messages find themselves into games it's because the top brass wanted them there, the minions decide zilch.

Everything you say is true. But the top leadership or even middle management could have feminist or SJW type people.

 

[djacobox372]

50 million isn't much for a decade of "abuse" by a 69 billion dollar company (the amount Microsoft paid for it)... must not have been much of a case.

 

[Madmick]

50 million from a company that made 7.5 billion in 2022. I'm sure it stings deep!

True, but it was less about hurting the company than it was a cash grab for the disgruntled, untalented people who brought the case, and who were seeking to pressure the company so they might unfairly receive promotions they didn't earn. And to create headlines for California Democrats to parrot in their campaign virtue signaling to constituents.

Hopefully AB can put this behind them because the moment game developers are forced to spend more time catering to the lowest common denominator within their ranks than to focusing on the product, yielding to incessant bigotry masquerading as affirmative action, they stop turning out great games, and AB has already been struggling with that for a while. The only focus should be on talent and results. The only focus should be on making great games. This identity bullshit only hamstrings that.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Uh-oh, they're gonna have to roll some loose change together for that one.

You frequent the video game forum and know this wasnt the result.

 

[Natural Order]

True, but it was less about hurting the company than it was a cash grab for the disgruntled, untalented people who brought the case, and who were seeking to pressure the company so they might unfairly receive promotions they didn't earn. And to create headlines for California Democrats to parrot in their campaign virtue signaling to constituents.

Hopefully AB can put this behind them because the moment game developers are forced to spend more time catering to the lowest common denominator within their ranks than to focusing on the product, yielding to incessant bigotry masquerading as affirmative action, they stop turning out great games, and AB has already been struggling with that for a while. The only focus should be on talent and results. The only focus should be on making great games. This identity bullshit only hamstrings that.

Well said. This train of thought extends far beyond video games too.

 

[KaNesDeath]

True, but it was less about hurting the company than it was a cash grab for the disgruntled, untalented people who brought the case, and who were seeking to pressure the company so they might unfairly receive promotions they didn't earn. And to create headlines for California Democrats to parrot in their campaign virtue signaling to constituents.

Hopefully AB can put this behind them because the moment game developers are forced to spend more time catering to the lowest common denominator within their ranks than to focusing on the product, yielding to incessant bigotry masquerading as affirmative action, they stop turning out great games, and AB has already been struggling with that for a while. The only focus should be on talent and results. The only focus should be on making great games. This identity bullshit only hamstrings that.

Within the video game forum we disagree on nearly every topic. Politically we're quite close in agreement. So im a bit shocked you have taken this route of excuse for Activision/Blizzard. Their starting salary is below industry standards in a high cost of living area while having an insane employee turnover rate year on year.

Its like you completely forgot how Kotick threw Townsend under the bus, threatened to kill his assistant and actively courted EA to purchase their company.

 

[Madmick]

Within the video game forum we disagree on nearly every topic. Politically we're quite close in agreement. So im a bit shocked you have taken this route of excuse for Activision/Blizzard. Their starting salary is below industry standards in a high cost of living area while having an insane employee turnover rate year on year.

Its like you completely forgot how Kotick threw Townsend under the bus, threatened to kill his assistant and actively courted EA to purchase their company.

LOL. Kane, in the Gaming forum, where posters are familiar with your long history of posts on the topic, you are univerally regarded as the fanatically irrational anti-Blizzard poster.

So, unlike you, I'm not surprised at your take at all. Nobody from the Gaming Forum is. It's the anti-Blizzard take.

 

[KaNesDeath]

So, unlike you, I'm not surprised at your take at all. Nobody from the Gaming Forum is. It's the anti-Blizzard take.

Activision/Blizzard settling two lawsuits for sexual misconduct and misogyny is somehow an example of them being anti-woke? Whole reason these investigations kicked off was from a employee killing herself for the executives were doing revenge porn on her.

This is the company you wish to defend........

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

You could find out where the undesirable applicant lives and set their car on fire before the interview. They don't show up for the interview then they are to blame by default.

Stop simping for clout chasing whores.

 

[Madmick]

Activision/Blizzard settling two lawsuits for sexual misconduct and misogyny is somehow an example of them being anti-woke? Whole reason these investigations kicked off was from a employee killing herself for the executives were doing revenge porn on her.

This is the company you wish to defend........

Yes. Remember when you simped for that moron who virtue signaled his outrage when one of the speakers at a Riot gaming convention, in his speech offering strategies for sales and attempting to inspire the employees in attendance, committed the unforgivable crime of telling the joke, "No doesn't always mean no"?

I member. And Riot ended up paying out a similar $100m settlement just to make these woke morons go away-- because in the long run, while it wasn't the right thing, it was the cheaper thing.