Could Prime Rampage Sprawl and Brawl GSP?

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  1. Hamm and Clov

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    As if a one-dimensional boxer stands any chance against GSP, no matter the size.
     
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    Could Ronda beat Cain?

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  3. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    Rampage kneebar 1.gif Rampage kneebar 2.gif Rampage kneebar 3.gif
     
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    GSP was so brilliant, athletic and strategic, but not enough to overcome the disparity in brute strength in this matchup. I am sure he'd be ragdolled and brutalized by Rampage.
     
  7. NoBiasJustMMA

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    2003-2007 Rampage against GSP would be like a man fighting a 12 year old.
     
  8. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    Ya gottah love when Smiley starts or ends all his arguments with these 'lols'...

    Anyway, wont even ask ya about his opponent here, pretty sure ya dont even know.
    Had I asked ya about any kneebar or armbar attempted by Rampage in his career, probably...crickets...

    By the way, I thought ya got jailed or somethin´, still waitin´for yar answer here:

    https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...in-mma-history.3928977/page-12#post-150306819

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  9. NoSmilez

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    You quote me so you can use those gifs from a KOTC fight. Did you even know he was applying the toehold in the wrong direction before switching to the kneebar. You really don't understand the technical aspects of the sport. You don't make any good assessments or even try to debate properly.
     
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    gono btw Rounds...

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    Helax Smiley, It was about Page tryin´to diversify his skillset. Who helped him back then, can ya tell me?
    Who´s his opponent here?

    A debate is about 2 persons goin´back and forth, questionnin´AND answerin´.
    Ya asked me 2 questions about Suloev in that other thread, I answered.

    Im still waitin´for yar answer to my question (asked 5 times).

    Waitin´...

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  11. NoBiasJustMMA

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    Sounds like you never actually watched Rampage fight in his prime 2003-2007.
     
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    His opponent was Robert Smith. His coaches were still his wrestling friends from high school. I still have the box set in my parent's house. Please when you want to debate. Ask important questions and bring insight to the conversation. I don't care if you interact with me but sometimes it is more or less annoying or has nothing to do with my original comment.
    You tried to play it off like the gifs were displaying high level ground work then you ask irrelevant questions regarding Rampage's team. Am I suppose to say he also trained out of Van Nuy's Muay Thai and Team Oyama but still can't throw a kick to save his life?
     
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  13. The XL

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    Lmao, GSP struggled with Michael Bisping and Johnny Hendricks.
     
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    gono btw Rounds...

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    hmmm...nah... ya got it all wrong, as usual. Im talkin´about Rampage stint @ Fabiano Iha´s... Not about high level shit too, but about Rampage tryin 2 diversify his skill set, since ya (and the other dude) were somehow implyin´that he was one-dimensional and not workin´on his skill set.

    I asked ya an essential question in that Suloev debate, since ya have the annoyin´habit of badmouthin´ a whole generation from the Brazilian Vale Tudo era, Russian NHB scene and JMMA...without really knowin´shit, as I could check in that other TK/R.Morais debate where ya appeared completely clueless and talkin´outtah yar ass.

    Now, man up, go back to that Suloev thread and let´s check who´s clueless about the technical part of this game.
    Only skill set/technical sequences assessment, one-on-one, nobody else, no mods,...no...ref...lmao

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  15. Dirge

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    WTF? Now we are comparing guys that are 3 weight classes apart? GSP in his prime fought at 170 and walked around by his own admission at around 185. When he fought at 185 (once) he indicated despite bulking up he was only cutting from 190.

    Rampage cut from 230 to make 205.

    GSP is 5 '10", Rampage is 6'2".

    GSP has a reach advantage but would be giving up 45 pounds or so of weight and prime rampage was all muscle.
     
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  16. NoSmilez

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    Dave Roberts was under Iha. Stop being stupid man. You have rampage citing Roberts as his number 1 influence coming up to California since they became good friends while wrestling in high school as rivals. Which black youth was in Robert's corner in his UFC debut? You really think slamming someone is legit triangle defense?

    Your assessments are awful. Your rationale are like fighter A is well rounded because he punched in vale tudo blahblah so he was well rounded. Please give a technical assessment. You are honestly clueless when it comes to certain things.

    I don't even engage you and you actively seek me out. For a lack of better words. Get off my dick you autist. I don't have to do anything you say.
     
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  17. gono btw

    gono btw Rounds...

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    Puh-lease ya goof, dont deflect, the OP was about Rampage´s mindset. I quoted 2 dudes, ya and the other one, sayin´ he had the mindset of a one-dimensional player. The gif was about showin´that at one point, he did work on it, my good friend

    OMG, Gono´s awful!

    What a sissy,lmao
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    Stop talkin´ about Brazilian or Russian Vale Tudo, even JMMA... ya´re laughable.

    We both know the reason why ya dont wanna answer my question about which Suloev fights ya really watched.
    Coz ya only watched max. 2, and ya know Im gonna check the technical sequences and expose ya, jus´like in the TK and R. Morais debate.

    What a clown.

    Dont fool yourself, mutha.. Each time you´ll spit some pure BS about these ol´school shits, I´ll be like...

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  18. giusti825

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    Prime Rampage was Pride Rampage....who would have an insane strength advantage...

    He would likely toss GSP around at will.

    Weight divisions exist for a reason.
     
  19. Bend NvR Break

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    He won the 1st round of the second Wand fight. I know he dropped Wand at least once and IIRC a second time. Then in the second round Wand took over. So to say he had NO CHANCE is stupid. Especially considering Wand (and Shogun) was considered the best 205 fighter(s) at that time. That's like saying you can't beat DC or Jones so you must suck. Nothing wrong with losing to them. In fact if you have to lose to someone Shogun/Wand in Pride (and Jones/DC in the UFC) are the people you want to lose to.

    The Hendo vs Rampage fight is the most underrated fight of all time. This is the same Hendo that knocked out prime, peaking Wand.

    Rampage is most definitely a top 5 LHW of all time.
     

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