Cory Sandhagen is likely not a size bully, stop pretending otherwise

[Aluminati]

Can't be a bully if you get beat down.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Anybody that even uses the term "Weight Bully" is a moron, if you can make the weight, that's your weight class. 90% of these guys are at the lowest weight class possible.

 

[xn7]

Too many people don't know the difference between big and tall lol, he is tall but very skinny.

For example I have seen Glover and Reyes in person and Glover is a way bigger guy. Skinny doesn't mean you're bigger lol, are they taller? yes. Taller is the correct word

I mean if two people weigh similarly but one is much taller and longer which one would you say is more physically advantaged. it isn't that hard to figure out.

 

[Final Say]

I mean if two people weigh similarly but one is much taller and longer which one would you say is more physically advantaged. it isn't that hard to figure out.

Depends strictly on whoever has a better strategy that they can execute

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

You people are so weird…
I never heard anybody call thomas hearns that and his arms looked like they were twice as long as atg WWs he was beating.

 

[User4908]

Last time i checked, Sandhagen is 7-2 in the UFC, but yeah let's completely disregard that.
Let's also disregard that he outstruck Dillashaw by a wider margin than *any* fighter before him or that he clearly did more damage to TJ than vice-versa.

Having losses happens if you fight the best of the best and 135 is easily one of the best divisions in the UFC; in terms of strikers it probably is the best.

"BJ Penn's longest win streak is 7 fights long and has a couple of losses even in his prime. Therefore he could not have been that good."
- User4908 (probably)

- Not 2-2

- Didn’t lose to TJ

- World beater the equivalent of prime Penn


Either you’re good at excuse making or just flat out delusional


<{CMPALM}>

 

[bigmacbub]

He would be significantly smaller in mass at FW than his opponents. He has never missed weight or had a hard time cutting weight. He is tall but skinny as fuck. MMA has weight classes not height classes.

I repeat he is 6 foot tall at 135. He is ducking his natural weight class.. play your semantics for all I care.

 

[HHJ]

weight or size bully doesnt exist,this is just the butthurtedness of those who dont like a certain fighter.

 

[Ladder Master]

Anybody that even uses the term "Weight Bully" is a moron, if you can make the weight, that's your weight class. 90% of these guys are at the lowest weight class possible.

I disagree.
People like Costa, Pereira, Tibau, etc cut well over 20 pounds and some over 25 pounds.
Those guys don't belong in the weight classes they compete in.
Some fighters end up going to the ER over failed cuts and make excuses why they did not make weight.

https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/28801060/deiveson-figueiredo-misses-weight-win-vacant-ufc-title

https://www.sherdog.com/news/news/R...at-Until-He-Fainted-Hit-Head-on-Bathtub-73063

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/khabi...c-209-weight-cut-i-almost-died-220348227.html

"Weight classes exist for a reason. That reason is to ensure that fighters of more or less the same size as their opponents, in the spirit of fairness."
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2019/1/...s-to-change-edgar-dillashaw-hendricks-johnson


I guess if cage weight does not matter to some of you guys lets just have them weigh in a month away from the match and everybody will be super safe.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

I mean if two people weigh similarly but one is much taller and longer which one would you say is more physically advantaged. it isn't that hard to figure out.

It depends, the taller guy will have a better range more than likely, but will be easier to take down because of longer legs and skinny torso. it will be easy to wrap your arms around Reyes and get a body lock on him, but Glover I'd imagine very difficult.

 

[Iron Nick]

I wouldn't criticize it either, Jon Jones has

has what? lol

 

[Iron Nick]

i feel like u are arguing against the small minority. some people have said things about coreys size but its not really the narrative around a sandhagen fight. sure some people are gonna say it, just kind of ignore those people

Fair enough, but i still like to have these debates/put threads like these out - not just because the things they are directly about, but also because they can adress several other things/more fundamental things on a wider spectrum.

 

[Goodfella86]

I don’t think there are weight bullies, aside from fighters who don't make weight. Generally, fighters want to get down to their lowest possible weight class. If you can make it to BW, then go for it.

 

[Iron Nick]

Haha, I'm not a Cory fan, but you're definitely right in this regard @Ironnik94 . As a fellow tall skinny guy, I can relate to this thread.

Thank you! Glad you could take something away from the thread.
I'm somewhat tall, but definitely of a skinny build too, so i too can relate, lol.

 

[Iron Nick]

- Not 2-2

- Didn’t lose to TJ

- World beater the equivalent of prime Penn


Either you’re good at excuse making or just flat out delusional


<{CMPALM}>

Sandhagen is 7-2 overall, just 2-2 in his last four but he could be 3-1 and no one could complain. The fight can be scored for either man, but Cory did more damage.

At his absolute best, BJ Penn was indeed, terrifyingly good.

 

[Iron Nick]

Too many people don't know the difference between big and tall lol, he is tall but very skinny.

For example I have seen Glover and Reyes in person and Glover is a way bigger guy. Skinny doesn't mean you're bigger lol, are they taller? yes. Taller is the correct word

I agree fellow sherbro.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

I disagree.
People like Costa, Pereira, Tibau, etc cut well over 20 pounds and some over 25 pounds.
Those guys don't belong in the weight classes they compete in.
Some fighters end up going to the ER over failed cuts and make excuses why they did not make weight.

https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/28801060/deiveson-figueiredo-misses-weight-win-vacant-ufc-title

https://www.sherdog.com/news/news/R...at-Until-He-Fainted-Hit-Head-on-Bathtub-73063

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/khabi...c-209-weight-cut-i-almost-died-220348227.html

"Weight classes exist for a reason. That reason is to ensure that fighters of more or less the same size as their opponents, in the spirit of fairness."
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2019/1/...s-to-change-edgar-dillashaw-hendricks-johnson


I guess if cage weight does not matter to some of you guys lets just have them weigh in a month away from the match and everybody will be super safe.

Obviously, if they miss weight they shouldn't fight there, but if they can make it, they can make it... not sure how that compares to weighing in a month beforehand lol

Most guys that are known for cutting a lot would be at a size disadvantage if they moved up

So do you think someone like Khabib should've been at 170?

 

[Iron Nick]

Dudes almost 6 foot tall at 135. He's ducking his real weight class. Play all the bs semantics you want. He should be at FW.

And yet he is lighter than many of his opponents (possibly all of them), yet you don't think they should fight at their "real weightclass".

It's not like Sandhagen is anorexic either, he just has a really low body fat and not a crazy amount of muscle.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

weight or size bully doesnt exist,this is just the butthurtedness of those who dont like a certain fighter.

Very weird how some guys get picked out as weight bullies and some don't, even if they are cutting a similar amount of weight

 

[HHJ]

Very weird how some guys get picked out as weight bullies and some don't, even if they are cutting a similar amount of weight

people call Khabib a weight bully,and always point out that Tibau who is much bigger,beat Khabib even tho he didnt,and never call his massive size into question