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Law Coronavirus the US GOV'T Response analysis Thread

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Dunno but it sure is fun watching you little bitches cry about it.

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You’re a lemming
 
I wonder how the very same Demoncraps that critique Trumps “slow start “ to this crises would have acted if during the senate impeachment trial Trump ordered the senate to quarantine and sent them home, barring them from the capital building?
I know the answer to this already, just wondering if any of you libs have the decency to answer truthfully.
 
Dunno but it sure is fun watching you little bitches cry about it.

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It'd be cool if you could argue for a point relevant to this discussion, or have one to begin with.

Also, those tissues were made to make fun of Trump........

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Can't wait for sleepy Joe to take over.

Sleepy Joe, or just about anyone, could do a better job than Trump. It would also be great if you guys had something to argue on, other than whataboutism, you know, while the actual guy in the WH gets people killed and keeps the economy shut down.

Then again, you right wingers are downright conditioned into not looking at your own situation because it could always be worse, and there's someone else to blame.
 
It'd be cool if you could argue for a point relevant to this discussion, or have one to begin with.

Also, those tissues were made to make fun of Trump........



Sleepy Joe, or just about anyone, could do a better job than Trump. It would also be great if you guys had something to argue on, other than whataboutism, you know, while the actual guy in the WH gets people killed and keeps the economy shut down.

Then again, you right wingers are downright conditioned into not looking at your own situation because it could always be worse, and there's someone else to blame.

I still haven't heard one single valid argument on what Trump could have done differently. I'm all ears buddy. Joe Biden sure didn't have one by calling the travel bans xenophobic, I DO know that. I DO know Cuomo dropped the ball hardcore in NY as well, making up almost half of total deaths in the US with only a population of 19 million out of 328 million total.
 
I still haven't heard one single valid argument on what Trump could have done differently. I'm all ears buddy. Joe Biden sure didn't have one by calling the travel bans xenophobic, I DO know that. I DO know Cuomo dropped the ball hardcore in NY as well, making up almost half of total deaths in the US with only a population of 19 million out of 328 million total.

Donors and lobbyists put at the head of public health departments by Trump

Hiring freezes at the CDC starting in 2017, other similar agencies, along with the HHS as well

Removing the CDC team in China over a tiff in your little tariff war

Pushing for double digit budget cuts to relevant agencies in literally every single budget proposal

Refuse to listen to your own CDC's pandemic assessment in 2019

Refuse to listen to members of your staff who warn you in early January

Refuse to adopt German developed WHO standardized testing kits, opting for tests that delayed the rollout of any testing whatsoever for weeks

Screaming about it all being a hoax and spreading false hope or deliberate misinformation on national television

Forgoing a military led supply chain in distributing medical supplies to the states, opting to hand them over to private corporations in order for them to auction the supplies off again

Putting idiot family members into key positions of coordination in the response to the pandemic, thus continuing to bungle the supply chain to the point where states are still desperate for supplies


What could they have done differently?!?!?! He got the China ban in place, and only let in like 40,000 initially after that, then instituted a massive list of exceptions to the ban!! So, perfect job!!
 
Donors and lobbyists put at the head of public health departments by Trump

Hiring freezes at the CDC starting in 2017, other similar agencies, along with the HHS as well

Removing the CDC team in China over a tiff in your little tariff war

Pushing for double digit budget cuts to relevant agencies in literally every single budget proposal

Refuse to listen to your own CDC's pandemic assessment in 2019

Refuse to listen to members of your staff who warn you in early January

Refuse to adopt German developed WHO standardized testing kits, opting for tests that delayed the rollout of any testing whatsoever for weeks

Screaming about it all being a hoax and spreading false hope or deliberate misinformation on national television

Forgoing a military led supply chain in distributing medical supplies to the states, opting to hand them over to private corporations in order for them to auction the supplies off again

Putting idiot family members into key positions of coordination in the response to the pandemic, thus continuing to bungle the supply chain to the point where states are still desperate for supplies


What could they have done differently?!?!?! He got the China ban in place, and only let in like 40,000 initially after that, then instituted a massive list of exceptions to the ban!! So, perfect job!!

Your list sounds like a pissed off ex-wife that has no basis in reality. The reality is no single State ran out of ventilators or hospital beds. I could give you one for PPE equipment and thats it. He has never said this is a hoax. False hope? We are about to open up in 6 weeks, not the 12-18 months people like you seemed to hope for. Again that isn't false hope, it's reality. Testing, as stated by any doctor actually dealing with it, doesn't do anything to TREAT patients. Tell me a Governor upset with what he has done for them, i'll wait. You are just a Trump hater that will be mad irregardless of anything he would have done.

Just to show how out of touch with reality you are.

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/exclusive-u-s-axed-cdc/

The American disease expert, a medical epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency, left her post in July, according to four sources with knowledge of the issue. The first cases of the new coronavirus may have emerged as early as November, and as cases exploded, the Trump administration in February chastised China for censoring information about the outbreak and keeping U.S. experts from entering the country to help.

ONE person is now a team to you, and she was pulled in JULY. Jesus man.
 
Your list sounds like a pissed off ex-wife that has no basis in reality. The reality is no single State ran out of ventilators or hospital beds. I could give you one for PPE equipment and thats it. He has never said this is a hoax. False hope? We are about to open up in 6 weeks, not the 12-18 months people like you seemed to hope for. Again that isn't false hope, it's reality. Testing, as stated by any doctor actually dealing with it, doesn't do anything to TREAT patients. Tell me a Governor upset with what he has done for them, i'll wait. You are just a Trump hater that will be mad irregardless of anything he would have done.

Just to show how out of touch with reality you are.

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/exclusive-u-s-axed-cdc/

The American disease expert, a medical epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency, left her post in July, according to four sources with knowledge of the issue. The first cases of the new coronavirus may have emerged as early as November, and as cases exploded, the Trump administration in February chastised China for censoring information about the outbreak and keeping U.S. experts from entering the country to help.

ONE person is now a team to you, and she was pulled in JULY. Jesus man.

It's amazing you think you can write things like:

"Testing, as stated by any doctor actually dealing with it, doesn't do anything to TREAT patients."

and not feel like an abject moron.

And yet you top it with:

"Tell me a Governor upset with what he has done for them, i'll wait."

I mean, really, man? Are you serious?

No further replies, as I'll never get a response above the level of it's just the flu, you all want the economy to never come back to hurt Trump, etc......
 
It's amazing you think you can write things like:

"Testing, as stated by any doctor actually dealing with it, doesn't do anything to TREAT patients."

and not feel like an abject moron.

And yet you top it with:

"Tell me a Governor upset with what he has done for them, i'll wait."

I mean, really, man? Are you serious?

No further replies, as I'll never get a response above the level of it's just the flu, you all want the economy to never come back to hurt Trump, etc......

You do realize doctors are still sending people home who test positive unless they need to be hospitalized to save their life, right? Guess what we did before we had enough test? Go cry in the corner for a little longer.
 
It's amazing you think you can write things like:

"Testing, as stated by any doctor actually dealing with it, doesn't do anything to TREAT patients."

and not feel like an abject moron.

And yet you top it with:

"Tell me a Governor upset with what he has done for them, i'll wait."

I mean, really, man? Are you serious?

No further replies, as I'll never get a response above the level of it's just the flu, you all want the economy to never come back to hurt Trump, etc......
I’m a doctor and testing doesn’t do anything to treat patients. We tell them to stay home.
 
So far the only people wanting to continue this ridiculous quarantine order are people who are still working or earning a paycheck.

Does anyone actually think social distancing is working?? How ignorant and uninformed can you be?

Who the fuck is in charge? The medical community. The same community that created the worst healthcare system known to man. Driven by greed, power and corruption. These are the people we're letting dictate the response.

I wish people took the science community this serious when they sounded the alarm on climate change.

Hmm

Sweden has been pretty lax on lockdown/social distancing. Their neighbours Denmark have done a lock down. Sweden has almost twice as many dead pr million. 49 vs 91.. So if we just transfer those numbers to the US that would be 16k vs 30k.. I think you might be the ignorant and uninformed one here.
 

A Month After Emergency Declaration, Trump's Promises Largely Unfulfilled

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If you want to hear how, after MONTHS of inaction, Trump and his admin have been handling the setup of screening and testing centers nationwide, which is the first step to overcoming the virus.
(Hint-They've not done jack shit)

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https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/report-stockpile-39-million-masks-exposed-fake-70111451
Report: Stockpile of 39 million masks exposed as fake
A major California labor union that claimed to have discovered a stockpile of 39 million masks for health care workers fighting the coronavirus was duped in an elaborate scam uncovered by FBI investigators

A tidbit:

"Investigators stumbled onto the scheme while looking into whether they could intercept the masks for the Federal Emergency Management Agency under the Defense Production Act, the U.S. attorney’s office said Friday.

The federal government has been quietly seizing supplies across the country as the outbreak spreads. But in this case, there was no warehouse, and there were no masks to seize, the Los Angeles Times reported."
 
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Hmm

Sweden has been pretty lax on lockdown/social distancing. Their neighbours Denmark have done a lock down. Sweden has almost twice as many dead pr million. 49 vs 91.. So if we just transfer those numbers to the US that would be 16k vs 30k.. I think you might be the ignorant and uninformed one here.
So instead of 16k dead we get 30k dead.

Compared to shutting down the entire economy and the unimaginable death and suffering as a result. An extra 16000 dead people is nothing compared to the fallout of economic shutdown.
 
So instead of 16k dead we get 30k dead.

Compared to shutting down the entire economy and the unimaginable death and suffering as a result. An extra 16000 dead people is nothing compared to the fallout of economic shutdown.
That was quick switch from "lock downs don't work" to "well 30k dead is nothing to save the economy"
So how many people should we just let die in the name if the economy? 100k? 200k? Should your parents and grand parents be part of that number?
 
That was quick switch from "lock downs don't work" to "well 30k dead is nothing to save the economy"
So how many people should we just let die in the name if the economy? 100k? 200k? Should your parents and grand parents be part of that number?
100k sure. 200k fine. These numbers are miniscule and pale in comparison to the millions dead from the total economic shutdown. My parents are in their 80s and are far more concerned with the shutdown than the virus.
 
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