Law Coronavirus the US GOV'T Response analysis Thread

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This is what people miss when praising trumps policies that benefit them short term..and most of his are of that nature

Damaging the china relationship long term undercut the potential to better deal with a crisis like this..a friendly nation will rather warn and give you better and more info on its problems than a hostile one

Have they even benefited us short term? We've got a record trade deficit with China after the implementation of Trump's trade policy, after all.

These guys don't care about being better off. They've been resigned to being bent over the barrel, as long as there's someone fucked over even worse than they are.
 
Have they even benefited us short term? We've got a record trade deficit with China after the implementation of Trump's trade policy, after all.

These guys don't care about being better off. They've been resigned to being bent over the barrel, as long as there's someone fucked over even worse than they are.

I would say the rona crisis is now and thus the first negative short term consequence..and a huge one at that..karma didnt take long i guess
 
My observations are noticing that population density is a huge factor for CV, not just due to increased chance of exposure but also to intensity or "dose" of exposure. Here is an excerpt from a New Yorker article discussing effect of higher dose:

"Perhaps the strongest association between the intensity of exposure and the intensity of subsequent disease is seen in measles research. “I want to emphasize that measles and covid-19 are different diseases caused by very different viruses with different behaviors,” Rik de Swart, a virologist at Erasmus University, in Rotterdam, cautioned when we spoke, “but in measles there are several clear indications that the severity of illness relates to the dose of exposure. And it makes immunological sense, because the interaction between the virus and the immune system is a race in time. It’s a race between the virus finding enough target cells to replicate and the antiviral response aiming to eliminate the virus. If you give the virus a head start with a large dose, you get higher viremia, more dissemination, higher infection, and worse disease.”

The higher the population density the greater dose that contracters of the virus will be likely to receive. And the greater the dose the more likely the fatality.

High density population also works in conjunction with air pollution as an amplifier for severity of the virus. The denser the population, the more ozone pollution and the more people with compromised or damaged respiratory.

I think the big story that is going to come out of this is how this virus's lethality was tailor made for huge urban centers with sardine packed transit and inner city poverty and pollution related health issues.
 
My observations are noticing that population density is a huge factor for CV, not just due to increased chance of exposure but also to intensity or "dose" of exposure. Here is an excerpt from a New Yorker article discussing effect of higher dose:

"Perhaps the strongest association between the intensity of exposure and the intensity of subsequent disease is seen in measles research. “I want to emphasize that measles and covid-19 are different diseases caused by very different viruses with different behaviors,” Rik de Swart, a virologist at Erasmus University, in Rotterdam, cautioned when we spoke, “but in measles there are several clear indications that the severity of illness relates to the dose of exposure. And it makes immunological sense, because the interaction between the virus and the immune system is a race in time. It’s a race between the virus finding enough target cells to replicate and the antiviral response aiming to eliminate the virus. If you give the virus a head start with a large dose, you get higher viremia, more dissemination, higher infection, and worse disease.”

The higher the population density the greater dose that contracters of the virus will be likely to receive. And the greater the dose the more likely the fatality.

High density population also works in conjunction with air pollution as an amplifier for severity of the virus. The denser the population, the more ozone pollution and the more people with compromised or damaged respiratory.

I think the big story that is going to come out of this is how this virus's lethality was tailor made for huge urban centers with sardine packed transit and inner city poverty and pollution related health issues.

Yep. I said this in the main COVID thread and was shut down pretty quickly.

But I think it makes total sense

Also sounds like damn bioweapon used to thin out poorer populations
 
Yep. I said this in the main COVID thread and was shut down pretty quickly.

But I think it makes total sense

Also sounds like damn bioweapon used to thin out poorer populations

well the numbers are in and they are proving your right.

This may actually also explain why California is not getting hit hard by this virus, even though there is evidence that it has been there since mid-December. Here is why. The Western half the United States has far less population density and inter-regional travel than the eastern half. I think this fact offsets the high density patches on the Pacific coast. This virus has been particularly deadly in high population density interregional corridors.

One big story that is not being talked about is that outside of the Northeastern Megalopolis, the rest of the United States is simply not getting hit hard by this virus, except for very few exceptions. And the 7 states that decided not to declare stay-at-home orders are not seeing higher numbers. They have among the lowest deaths in the nation. This is not a kosher opinion among hard chargers, but as of so far, at least half the states in the United States did not need ban church services. In my own small town, everything is still buzzing like a hive but Christians are not allowed to meet together.
 
President Trump needs Dr Fauci if he fired him it would send massive shockwaves through Wall Street. I don't like Trump but I saw the interview with Jake and Jake was really trying to trip up Dr Fauci hard.
 
well the numbers are in and they are proving your right.

This may actually also explain why California is not getting hit hard by this virus, even though there is evidence that it has been there since mid-December. Here is why. The Western half the United States has far less population density and inter-regional travel than the eastern half. I think this fact offsets the high density patches on the Pacific coast. This virus has been particularly deadly in high population density interregional corridors.

One big story that is not being talked about is that outside of the Northeastern Megalopolis, the rest of the United States is simply not getting hit hard by this virus, except for very few exceptions. And the 7 states that decided not to declare stay-at-home orders are not seeing higher numbers. They have among the lowest deaths in the nation. This is not a kosher opinion among hard chargers, but as of so far, at least half the states in the United States did not need ban church services. In my own small town, everything is still buzzing like a hive but Christians are not allowed to meet together.

Brother. You need to head over to the main COVID thread

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...on-15-uk-pm-boris-johnson-out-of-icu.4099570/
 
Yep. I said this in the main COVID thread and was shut down pretty quickly.

But I think it makes total sense

Also sounds like damn bioweapon used to thin out poorer populations

Could see why one would have that thought but the structure of this virus points to a natural development

"This evidence for natural evolution was supported by data on SARS-CoV-2's backbone -- its overall molecular structure. If someone were seeking to engineer a new coronavirus as a pathogen, they would have constructed it from the backbone of a virus known to cause illness. But the scientists found that the SARS-CoV-2 backbone differed substantially from those of already known coronaviruses and mostly resembled related viruses found in bats and pangolins.

"These two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2" said Andersen."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm
 
40,000 folks flew from China, thousands straight from Wuhan, to US cities across the country with spotty screening after the China travel "ban" was put in place just to put some context into what level of restriction really occurred.
 
Could see why one would have that thought but the structure of this virus points to a natural development

"This evidence for natural evolution was supported by data on SARS-CoV-2's backbone -- its overall molecular structure. If someone were seeking to engineer a new coronavirus as a pathogen, they would have constructed it from the backbone of a virus known to cause illness. But the scientists found that the SARS-CoV-2 backbone differed substantially from those of already known coronaviruses and mostly resembled related viruses found in bats and pangolins.

"These two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2" said Andersen."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm

I've seen conflicting theories. And it still could have happened in a lab but not been "created". There is evidence they were testing on bats during this timeframe.

Sorry, there is just more actual shit pointing to it than a few scientists opinions
 
I've seen conflicting theories. And it still could have happened in a lab but not been "created". There is evidence they were testing on bats during this timeframe.

Sorry, there is just more actual shit pointing to it than a few scientists opinions

You have sources pointing to it?

Whether or not they had bats in lab doesn't change whether this virus developed naturally. I'm not sure what you mean by "it happened" in a lab but was not created there.
 
Dr. James Todaro tweeted “The mild [S-strain] is becoming more prevalent compared to January. This makes sense. The strain that dominates/spreads is the one that allows people to remain social and travel—not the one that kills.” He concludes the milder S-Strain will propagate, resulting in more humans surviving the virus and developing immunity against both types.

Dr. Nicole Saphier similarly said “The ‘L’ strain tends to be the more lethal or severe strain, while the ‘S’ strain seems to have more mild symptoms… So what we are seeing is actually more of the mild strain of the virus because it doesn't actually want to kill the host.”

Open shit up. Let's get back to business as usual. We're being fucked with.
 
40,000 folks flew from China, thousands straight from Wuhan, to US cities across the country with spotty screening after the China travel "ban" was put in place just to put some context into what level of restriction really occurred.

That was the big fuck up..anyone arriving from china and other affected areas should have been isolated and quarantined in dedicated facilities

If trump did that he would have turned out a hero GOAT president..huge missed opportunity
 
Dr. James Todaro tweeted “The mild [S-strain] is becoming more prevalent compared to January. This makes sense. The strain that dominates/spreads is the one that allows people to remain social and travel—not the one that kills.” He concludes the milder S-Strain will propagate, resulting in more humans surviving the virus and developing immunity against both types.

Dr. Nicole Saphier similarly said “The ‘L’ strain tends to be the more lethal or severe strain, while the ‘S’ strain seems to have more mild symptoms… So what we are seeing is actually more of the mild strain of the virus because it doesn't actually want to kill the host.”

Open shit up. Let's get back to business as usual. We're being fucked with.

Not everyone lives in the woods off the grid like you bud
 
I live in a county of 1.1 million ppl.
suburban, dense.
58 deaths.
precautions were great.
now let's get back to reality.
 
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