Law Coronavirus the US GOV'T Response analysis Thread

[hillelslovak87]

What I know about ventilators that you don’t can, and does, fill books. You are beyond hopelessly out of your depth

We've got a good contender for dumbest post of the year. Repeating champ over here!!!

"What I know about ventilators that you don’t can, and does, fill books."
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[Madmick]

I have contract offers in California for 3700 a week after taxes. I’m waiting for New York to come up to there and I’ll likely take one

Does the contract stipulate salary or fixed hours? If the latter is there an overtime clause?

 

[cincymma79]

Does the contract stipulate salary or fixed hours? If the latter is there an overtime clause?

Overtime is 110/hour
I’m weighing it hard
Tricky part is i need six months guaranteed and most contracts are 14 weeks

 

[HereticBD]

We've got a good contender for dumbest post of the year. Repeating champ over here!!!

"What I know about ventilators that you don’t can, and does, fill books."
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Weren't you whining about people ragging on you for confusing "North/South" Korea a few days ago, and claiming it was a typo? And here you are, spiking the ball on an obvious typo/miscommunication.

SAD!

 

[cincymma79]

We've got a good contender for dumbest post of the year. Repeating champ over here!!!

"What I know about ventilators that you don’t can, and does, fill books."
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I’m sure the two of you can explain how you are going to maintain outdated stock on levels exponentially higher than they have been, find parts, people that can put them together , and so on. I have both ran these machines for decades and for the last 4 years roughly have been involved in purchasing stock across multiple hospitals for those machines. So I might know jsut a little bit more about running them and keeping them going than you

 

[TheOldMan]

"President Trump has... really set an example for the world in how to mitigate not only this pandemic, but future ones."

— U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Kelly Craft

https://www.foxnews.com/media/kelly-craft-trump-coronavirus-ambassador-united-nations

 

[hillelslovak87]

I’m sure the two of you can explain how you are going to maintain outdated stock on levels exponentially higher than they have been, find parts, people that can put them together , and so on. I have both ran these machines for decades and for the last 4 years roughly have been involved in purchasing stock across multiple hospitals for those machines. So I might know jsut a little bit more about running them and keeping them going than you

One word: funding

Also, your post is still funny. What books on ventilators have you contributed to, per chance?

Weren't you whining about people ragging on you for confusing "North/South" Korea a few days ago, and claiming it was a typo? And here you are, spiking the ball on an obvious typo/miscommunication.

SAD!

You ragged on me about that typo while claiming Covid-19 has a far lower mortality rate than the seasonal flu. I remember that. I also remember you providing zero information to buttress your assertions while wholesale dismissing information I provided for you.

 

[7437]

"President Trump has... really set an example for the world in how to mitigate not only this pandemic, but future ones."

— U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Kelly Craft

https://www.foxnews.com/media/kelly-craft-trump-coronavirus-ambassador-united-nations

Lol. That's some quality sycophantic talk

 

[cincymma79]

One word: funding

so the government is going to pay for an entire manufacturing division to maintain antiquated stock, since the ones working for companies actually being competitive in the market will not be producing parts

 

[hillelslovak87]

so the government is going to pay for an entire manufacturing division to maintain antiquated stock, since the ones working for companies actually being competitive in the market will not be producing parts

Our government can maintain massive stockpiles of missiles and arms that require logistic and financial capability far beyond the level needed to stockpile ventilators and surgical masks. That should seem beyond obvious.

So, what books have you contributed to on ventilators?

 

[Magooglie]

Lol. That's some quality sycophantic talk

If she said anything else US unemployment goes to 3,283,001.

 

[cincymma79]

Our government can maintain massive stockpiles of missiles and arms that require logistic and financial capability far beyond the level needed to stockpile ventilators and surgical masks. That should seem beyond obvious.

So, what books have you contributed to on ventilators?

And if the next plague requires dialysis machines will you say trump should have had 50000 dialysis machines next to the ventilators? What if the next one requires ecmo? Lvads? What if I’d really was 3 or 4% of all Americans like some of said? 50000 wont be enough. We need 20 million of each just to be safe.

 

[HereticBD]

Our government can maintain massive stockpiles of missiles and arms that require logistic and financial capability far beyond the level needed to stockpile ventilators and surgical masks. That should seem beyond obvious.

So, what books have you contributed to on ventilators?

They also have immediate logistical reasons for stockpiling weapons. That being, that they are under constant threat of attack from other nations. Do you really think America is the #1 superpower in the world, because they negotiated really well to obtain that position, and not because they have weapons that would fuck any other nation up, if they ever tried anything?

You can't be this stupid, to compare these two scenarios like they're remotely similar.

 

[hillelslovak87]

And if the next plague requires dialysis machines will you say trump should have had 50000 dialysis machines next to the ventilators? What if the next one requires ecmo? Lvads? What if I’d really was 3 or 4% of all Americans like some of said? 50000 wont be enough. We need 20 million of each just to be safe.

That's the thing about being prepared, you plan for the worst, while listening to the experts.

That's why nobody in the relevant fields are taking your position, and being like "Meh, some expired meds, we don't really need this shit, do we?"

So, no contributions to books about ventilators from you? Well, that was an odd claim to make. I've written more books about weird claims about ventilators than you will ever know. You're hopelessly out of touch.

 

[hillelslovak87]

They also have immediate logistical reasons for stockpiling weapons. That being, that they are under constant threat of attack from other nations. Do you really think America is the #1 superpower in the world, because they negotiated really well to obtain that position, and not because they have weapons that would fuck any other nation up, if they ever tried anything?

You can't be this stupid, to compare these two scenarios like they're remotely similar.

America's force of arms is so far beyond even our closest competitors on a scale that strains belief. There is quite the difference between the stockpiling of arms made by private corporations and emergency stockpiles for supplies needed during a pandemic.

My point was on funding, and an obvious one at that.

 

[cincymma79]

That's the thing about being prepared, you plan for the worst, while listening to the experts.

That's why nobody in the relevant fields are taking your position, and being like "Meh, some expired meds, we don't really need this shit, do we?"

So, no contributions to books about ventilators from you? Well, that was an odd claim to make. I've written more books about weird claims about ventilators than you will ever know. You're hopelessly out of touch.

So we just need 20 million vents, dialysis machines, ecmo machines, lvads, And so on as well as an extra 5 million respiratory therapists (cdc recommends no more than 4 to a therapist) on deck from magic land at all times and normally each dialysis machine requires a single nurse to run it. So 20 million nurses too. Got it

 

[HereticBD]

America's force of arms is so far beyond even our closest competitors on a scale that strains belief.

And they must keep it that way, if they plan to hold onto power. The threat is constant.

Your comparison to health supplies that only run out during an ultra rare pandemic, is asinine.

 

[Magooglie]

And they must keep it that way, if they plan to hold onto power. The threat is constant.

Your comparison to health supplies that only run out during an ultra rare pandemic, is asinine.

Lol. We can halve our military budget and still be extremely intimidating and well protected.

 

[HereticBD]

Lol. We can halve our military budget and still be extremely intimidating and well protected.

What are you basing this on, other than "feelings"?

 

[hillelslovak87]

So we just need 20 million vents, dialysis machines, ecmo machines, lvads, And so on as well as an extra 5 million respiratory therapists (cdc recommends no more than 4 to a therapist) on deck from magic land at all times and normally each dialysis machine requires a single nurse to run it. So 20 million nurses too. Got it

Yet another instance of you creating an argument to argue against while failing to address the points you've been asked to support.

I would say never change, but you should.

And they must keep it that way, if they plan to hold onto power. The threat is constant.

Your comparison to health supplies that only run out during an ultra rare pandemic, is asinine.

Oh yes, the United States is so threatened. The Jihadis now have fighter jets and aircraft carriers, along with equivalent ICBM delivery systems.

Ultra rare pandemic, LOL. The idea of preparedness is lost on you guys, especially considering there was a serious pandemic that the last administration had to contain, and they did so, like the administration before them, without abject incompetence like we see from Trump here, which has resulted in healthcare professionals wearing trash bags and governors fighting eachother in the free market for supplies they all need, price gouged as they now are.

His ineptitude has also resulted in the economy needing be shut down in large part for over a month. One would think this would get through to a Trumper, even one playing border patrol, since that has been the one metric you guys have been pinning all of his "success" on for three years............