Law Coronavirus the US GOV'T Response analysis Thread

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Do we really need a thread every time cnn or Fox News puts up a shitty article?
 
Isn't that their bread and butter? I wouldn't worry about it. All of these media corps have only stood to benefit from his Presidency and will look back on the era with fondness. When else is a talentless hack like Don Lemons or whoever going to get consistent name drops from the President of the United States? It's priceless. They don't really care, bro.
 
That article is bashing Trump?

Man, y'all are soft as shit lol
 
MichiganMMA1978 said:
If you look through my posts in this thread, you'll see I've called for accountability on both sides. I'm not placing blame on 1 person, this is way bigger than just Trump. This is a failure by damn near every politician. Pres, house Senate and governors... Accountability for all. And prison for the ones that convinced people there is no threat and to disregard the current guidelines. Once again, I say fuck them all.... Can I be more clear than that, or do you just want to continue the R vs D shit? Because that's not how I see this, and refuse to partake in pointless childlike arguments about it.
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I cannot disagree with a single bit of your post. More of this sort of thinking is needed.
 
Love the Monday morning quarterback responses .. oh and saw this lol


 
MichiganMMA1978 said:
If you look through my posts in this thread, you'll see I've called for accountability on both sides. I'm not placing blame on 1 person, this is way bigger than just Trump. This is a failure by damn near every politician. Pres, house Senate and governors... Accountability for all. And prison for the ones that convinced people there is no threat and to disregard the current guidelines. Once again, I say fuck them all.... Can I be more clear than that, or do you just want to continue the R vs D shit? Because that's not how I see this, and refuse to partake in pointless childlike arguments about it.
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You keep saying this isn't about Rs and Ds. But your argument is 100% to blame both sides in an attempt to justify absolving the people in charge. There is one entity at the forefront of this...the executive branch.

There is blame to go around. It ain't equal.
 
Hognoxious said:
In before the left begins defending CNN. Oh wait!
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I'm not defending CNN lmao.

The article is literally a couple of former state department officials quoted as being confused and levying criticism regarding the "aid" (since we paid for it after all).

Seriously, that's it? Former officials giving their opinions of this deal is enough to make you guys all frothy? I would say you're as soft as toilet paper, but once you get to 2 ply you can at least wipe your ass.

 
andnowweknow said:
You keep saying this isn't about Rs and Ds. But your argument is 100% to blame both sides in an attempt to justify absolving the people in charge. There is one entity at the forefront of this...the executive branch.

There is blame to go around. It ain't equal.
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Edit: "is not equal"
 
A Lurker said:
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
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Any financial aid package would have to go through the machinations of government; which includes negotiation; and the response bill has now been passed. So how has this affected the response to the virus? It hasn't, its desperate grasping at straws.

As previously stated, I cannot vote for Trump, as like yourself, I am not a US citizen. However, I liked his Campaign and think the Russia nonsense was nonsense. To view his response to the crisis as anything other than a colossal fuck up is folly; and to try to share blame on any level with those not in the same positions of power; is repugnant
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The stimulus certainly has effected the response. It allocated money badly needed to hospitals to help their ability to respond, it's increased unemployment benefits allowed people who were still nervous about needing to go out and find income the means to afford a month long stay-at-home order. Far from a grasp at straws.
 
Falsedawn said:
I'm not defending CNN lmao.

The article is literally a couple of former state department officials quoted as being confused and levying criticism regarding the "aid" (since we paid for it after all).

Seriously, that's it? Former officials giving their opinions of this deal is enough to make you guys all frothy? I would say you're as soft as toilet paper, but once you get to 2 ply you can at least wipe your ass.

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No one is soft as shit, accept those upset by CNN looking bad.
 
Make no mistake, Coronavirus is the best thing to happen to the media in quite some time.They are loving this shit.
 
andnowweknow said:
Take Trump out of it for a second. When leadership fails at something, do you normally think that the leader and his team should be held accountable for it? Would it seem at all ok to you for someone at the helm of a disaster to deny ANY culpability in said failure?

Blaming the people who ARE NOT in charge of a situation is bananas. Of course it is a long term failure of preparation as well. But it's not the house Democrats fault the people in charge of the response (Trump administration) fucked this up.
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Seems to me like we're holding Trump to a totally different standard than the rest of the worlds leaders. Coronavirus isn't exclusive to the US, the criticism of action is.

You're fooling yourself if you believe anyone in Trumps position was going to close down the US before there was a problem already affecting us. Pandemics are not unprecedented in the world. We've never taken the drastic steps we have taken with this one.
 
Kushner's qualifications for his role...
-was born to rich parents.
-successfully married into money
-failed at his biggest real estates deals
-skilled at kissing father in-law's-ass

Perfect guy to put him in charge of distributing supplies to hospitals, his experience in the field is astounding.

If you think Trump really gives a fuck about empowering the best experts to save American's lives more than he wants to pick a puppet that'll say what he wants in front of the cameras, well then you just earned your PhD in gullibility from Trump U. This is move shows the priority is Trump getting better control on branding this crisis.

This just in, Dennis Rodman is the newly appointed Surgeon General.
 
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The stimulus certainly has effected the response. It allocated money badly needed to hospitals to help their ability to respond, it's increased unemployment benefits allowed people who were still nervous about needing to go out and find income the means to afford a month long stay-at-home order. Far from a grasp at straws.
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Is the effect of the delay in the bill comparable to the effect of the Trump Admins response to the virus? IMO it isn't even in the same order of magnitude; therefore I think its a moot point at best.
 
How many stories has CNN run over the years criticizing the US for importing hundreds of millions of dollars in goods from China each year?
 
Seano said:
Seems to me like we're holding Trump to a totally different standard than the rest of the worlds leaders. Coronavirus isn't exclusive to the US, the criticism of action is.

You're fooling yourself if you believe anyone in Trumps position was going to close down the US before there was a problem already affecting us. Pandemics are not unprecedented in the world. We've never taken the drastic steps we have taken with this one.
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I didn't expect him to close down the borders prior but South Korea had shown us the blueprint for a good approach and our leader went the opposite way.

They were completing tons of tests and when they found an infection that person's prior whereabouts were investigated and those who live near those hot spot areas were sent alerts about specific places where infections where found near them so they could be avoided. That's high levels of testing and very specific information shared with the public in almost real time.

We are in April now and testing here is still a debacle. The information we get is vague, contradicting, shitty sound bytes from press conferences that are now led by folks who got their positions through nepotism that are as much if not more campaigning and self congratulating as they are informative. "We're looking at that" "That's something we've talked about" "It's like the flu" "It's not like the flu" "anyone who wants a test can get one" "we are scrambling to find tests" "The tests are being produced by the millions and are on the way!" "No, we don't have tests".

I don't fault him for not closing the borders down earlier, that was a tough spot. I fault him for horrendous communication, a poor roll out of testing, and an inability to get satellite hospitals set up in places like NYC.

Take the floating hospital sent to NYC that Trump has been patting himself on the back over all week. It's been there for awhile and has seen a whooping of twenty patients. They won't allow the others aboard because of a list of 50 medical conditions they don't want to deal with. The head of biggest hospitals in NY is calling it "a joke". It's use was very poorly planned and this obviously was not a solution. If Trump's team would spend half as much time dealing with this as they have spent patting themselves on the back for an action that isn't working, we might actually treat some sick folks. But that doesn't seem to be where their priorities lie.

Biggest city in our nation, the center of finance, has needed a satellite hospital for like a month and it's April and they still have nothing resembling that. That's not a issue other leaders haven't been able to handle.
 
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Corona said:
Do we really need a thread every time cnn or Fox News puts up a shitty article?
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Until we as as country realize that political hacks are delivering our news, I think we do. But I guess the mods disagree.
 
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