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International Coronavirus Breaking News, v13: Over 21,000 Healthcare Workers From Around The U.S Heading To N.Y

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I think @irish_thug forgot to re-apply the the thread ban list with this version, so some of the flu bros are here to embarrass themselves again, hahaha.

It's okay, almost time for v13 though :)
V13 on Friday the 13th 13 weeks from the last Friday the 13th.
 
So the U.K's strategy is letting everyone be infected to build up herd immunity for the next wave.

Quite a gambit, and I wish them the best of luck. They will need it.







For the UK: Have those ventilators and ICUs ready, chaps!

For everyone else: Please add the U.K to your travel ban list during their grand nation-wide experiment!
 
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I don't trust China's numbers whatsoever.

For example, do you really believe Shangai (tens of millions of people), one of the largest cities and closest port cities to Wuhan really only had 350 confirmed cases? More like 350,000 cases.
For sure you can't trust them. Rule of thumb is that if they report good numbers, it's 1/10th of that, and if it's bad numbers, times that by 10.

Just look at the mortality rate of SARS. China reported a mortality rate of 6.6%, whereas much more developed countries like Singapore, Taiwan, Canada and Hong Kong reported mortality rates of 13.9% to 21.1%. Was China really that much better at managing the outbreak, or the people in China had immune systems that were so much better?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002–2004_SARS_outbreak

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So the U.K's strategy is letting everyone be infected and build up immunity for the next wave.

Quite a gambit, and I wish them the best of luck. Have those ventilators and ICUs ready, chaps.





So the complete opposite strategy that's been working in China, Russia and South Korea.
 
So the complete opposite strategy that's been working in China, Russia and South Korea.
Exactly. It's a terrible idea. The British people should say NO & FUCK YOU to these idiots. Don't capitulate, for fuck's sake.
 
Hearing the US is going to do a nation wide quarantine like Italy for 2 weeks. Will be announced in 48 hours. Hoarders were right.
 
So the complete opposite strategy that's been working in China, Russia and South Korea.

Style point for going old-school though. The risky gambit might pay off if the next wave proves to be more potent and most of Britons are at least partially resistant by then. Those who actually survive the shitstorm that's about to land on their head in the upcomming weeks that is.

This entire strategy is depends on the hope that the NHS will be able to weathers the same storm that's ravaging their mainland neighbors. That part I finds to be highly suspect, as there is no healthcare system on Earth that could handle a nationwide epidemic without massive number of deaths.
 
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A train from Oslo to Bergen in Norway has been stopped after som fuckhead went around deliberately breathing in people's faces. Sadly, the police arrested him before anyone could bash his skull in. He claims to be infected, and the passengers are now being treated with coffee and food while waiting for health authorities to arrive. I guess people will have their details taken, as there's not much else the doctors or whatever can do at this point obviously. They may have a quarantine to look forward to.

(Link in Norwegian): https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/tog-pa-bergensbanen-coronastanset/72248029
 
So the U.K's strategy is letting everyone be infected and build up immunity for the next wave.

Quite a gambit, and I wish them the best of luck. Have those ventilators and ICUs ready, chaps.





Everyone else: please add the U.K to your travel ban list during their grand nation-wide petri dish experiment.


Good thing Trump didn't ban UK travellers because the UK has done such a great job. This is gonna go well
 
So the U.K's strategy is letting everyone be infected and build up immunity for the next wave.

Quite a gambit, and I wish them the best of luck. Have those ventilators and ICUs ready, chaps.





Everyone else: please add the U.K to your travel ban list during their grand nation-wide petri dish experiment.


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This is a joke right, right?
Successful or not, hundreds of thousands of people will die. England (like Italy) has an aging population, the average brit is 48. The majority of old people have underlying health problems.
 
Herd immunity: will the UK’s coronavirus strategy work?
Ministers look to have given up on containment in favour of a novel approach some experts are wary of



Herd immunity is a phrase normally used when large numbers of children have been vaccinated against a disease like measles, reducing the chances that others will get it. As a tactic in fighting a pandemic for which there is no vaccine, it is novel – and some say alarming.

It relies on people getting the disease – in this case Covid-19 – and becoming immune as a result. Generally it is thought that those who recover will be immune, at least for now, so they won’t get it twice.

But allowing the population to build up immunity in this way – rather than through widespread testing, tracking down the contacts of every case and isolating them, as many other countries in Asia and Europe have chosen to do – could increase the risk to the most vulnerable: older people with underlying health problems.

To reach herd immunity, about 60% of the population would need to get ill and become immune, according to Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser. Though it could need as much as 70% or more. Even scientists who understand the strategy are anxious. “I do worry that making plans that assume such a large proportion of the population will become infected (and hopefully recovered and immune) may not be the very best that we can do,” said Martin Hibberd, professor of emerging infectious disease at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine.

“Another strategy might be to try to contain [it] longer and perhaps long enough for a therapy to emerge that might allow some kind of treatment. This seems to be the strategy of countries such as Singapore. While this containment approach is clearly difficult (and may be impossible for many countries), it does seem a worthy goal; and those countries that can should aim to do.”

The government’s “nudge unit” seems to favour this strategy. Dr David Halpern, a psychologist who heads the Behavioural Insights Team, said on BBC News: “There’s going to be a point, assuming the epidemic flows and grows, as we think it probably will do, where you’ll want to cocoon, you’ll want to protect those at-risk groups so that they basically don’t catch the disease and by the time they come out of their cocooning, herd immunity’s been achieved in the rest of the population.”

But Anthony Costello, a paediatrician and former World Health Organization director, said that the UK government was out of kilter with other countries in looking to herd immunity as the answer. It could conflict with WHO policy, he said in a series of Twitter posts, which is to contain the virus by tracking and tracing all cases. He quoted Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the WHO director general, who said: “The idea that countries should shift from containment to mitigation is wrong and dangerous.”

Herd immunity might not even last, Costello said. “Does coronavirus cause strong herd immunity or is it like flu where new strains emerge each year needing repeat vaccines? We have much to learn about Co-V immune responses.” Vaccines, he said, were a much safer way of bringing it about.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/herd-immunity-will-the-uks-coronavirus-strategy-work
 
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So the U.K's strategy is letting everyone be infected and build up immunity for the next wave.

Quite a gambit, and I wish them the best of luck. Have those ventilators and ICUs ready, chaps.






Everyone else: please add the U.K to your travel ban list during their grand nation-wide petri dish experiment.


And we didn't travel ban them, lol. What a clusterfuck.
 
This is a joke right, right?

This is possibly the most frequently asked question in this entire series. <Lmaoo>

It's a gloomy time indeed, but we can't say that self-writing (and soon to be Oscar-winning) COVID-19 movie script is even remotely close to being boring, predictable, or formulaic. Every new day is a new WTF to behold. :cool:
Good thing Trump didn't ban UK travellers because the UK has done such a great job. This is gonna go well
And we didn't travel ban them, lol. What a clusterfuck.

Our respectable MSM and esteemed Presidential candidates are still shedding crocodile tears against travel bans.

I say we are not banning enough, as the U.K and Canada clearly needs to be added to the list as well.
 
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Herd immunity being adopted here in the UK - Mixed feelings about the strategy now i've had time to think about it. My initial reaction was might just work.

I can think of 3 brothers on my wife's side of the family that are going to die if they get covid-19 anyway, they have lung related issues from years of painting and decorating back when lead paint was used and no one used a mask, all the sanding down all that dust in the lungs. Plus all 3 of them smoked for over 40 years. These are old guys (60-68 range) that won't live through it. the lungs are fucked.
let me tell you now, up and down this country there's 1000's of examples like that of working class guys between 50-70 that smoked for years and done work that has damaged their health. Herd immunity works for the healthy and young. Also, possibly old people that are healthy. But this is Britain, large chunks of our older generation are not beacons of health. So, is there any way we can stop 1000's of specific people up and down this country from coming into contact with the virus whilst we try and build up some kind of immunity in numbers?

Has this really been thought out? - I'm worried we're trying out a model with a Virus that kills old weak people, there's no doubt about it. Look at the stats on death, its an old people killer.

And what about the 5.4 million people in the UK with asthma? - I'm an asthma sufferer that had a nasty chest infection at Christmas ended up on oral steroids to help as asthma got bad. If me or any other asthma sufferer gets Covid-19 will we get Pneumonia?
Questions need to be asked about this UK strategy.

Quite frankly the more ive thought about it the more i'm concerned we could potentially open up a large death count. Herd Immunity sounds great, if your not old or compromised.
 
Hey, MS Paint OG!

I remember you man, wish you the best, keep us up to date

Good times! Still the best threads ever.

All good for now, though I am halfway between NY and Boston so I knew it would be here before long. Not worried about myself but I have young kids, elderly grandparents with respiratory issues, and a panicky wife driving me nuts.
 
What a gamble to take. People's lives literally hanging in the balance. Even if this works in the long run the initial sacrifice could be horrifying.
check my post above(1091), im rather worried.
 
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