Control of most all forms of Media + Education = ?

[tenniswhiz]

The WSJ just came out with a video calling the left “certifiably insane” and Yahoo put it on their news feed.
WSJ and Yahoo both qualify as MSM.
The video is funny, but its criticisms of the left are legit and concerning.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/wsj-opinion-democrat-madness-harris-003156475.html

 

[Philo-Publius]

It servers some very well. It enslaved others very well. I believe his point was that when you consider "people are being brainwashed" you as the individual thinks only through your own paradigm. Some think of "cultural liberalism" which was only a reaction to "cultural conservativeism". others think of hyper-capitalism. Others think of.... I don't know, sex ed? Whatever. Point stands.

I get what he was saying. I think if your "brainwashing" leads to white kids rioting against white people simply for being white, you have probably done them a disservice somewhere along the way.

 

[Philo-Publius]

Ya totally. Huge Marxist conspiracy that millions of people are keeping secret. Lay off the Jordan Peterson crack pipe, ted.

"The media is not in it for the money, it's for the control to do things without consequence. Therefore there is a gigantic conspiracy in place by Leftists and Marxists, secretly controlling all that we say and do, because their end goal is just the gratification of controlling the world".

Do you realize how fucking moronically childish and simple you sound?

Serious question. How old are you?

It is childish and moronic. It's also true.

 

[Philo-Publius]

Nah, I do my own electrical, drywall, run disconnects for friends. But I did work HVAC/smoke evacuation work for high end hotels for four years and Ive seen rich dickheads stiff my boss on work Ive done where I fulfilled every thing in my scope of work. Ive seen money withheld in attempts to get extra work for free etc, etc.
Im not saying every claim is legit. But hundreds?
Where there is smoke there is fire. (except during smoke tests, nah mean. Fuckin T and B jokes. god damn I crack myself up.)


It definitely doesn't support my stance, no. But I don't think it makes any sort of definitive statement on yours either. He seems to be the type that supports his pet causes and tries to help those that catch his attention in someway. The Iranian wrestler last week is an example of that.

Again. We aren't about to change each others mind on if hes a good dude or not.

I meant this in regards to whether or not he is making money as president. He won't show us his finances so it seems impossible to state one way or the other the effect of the presidency on his wallet.


Yeah. And they wouldnt. The media nitpicks his words when its obvious he means something else.
Like I said. I think he's a piece of shit. I wish everyone would stop with the nitpicking cause I think he does enough obvious things and the nitpicking provides a boy who cried wolf effect.


His rhetoric is inflammatory. He is not the president for 50% of the country only. Even your bolded sentence here doesn't lead to reasoned stances between parties. Your actual means of discussion doesn't fit that mentality to me. There is no war. We are all Americans.

I may not think your process is the right one but I think you want a stronger country.
I may not think random Protester #1 has the right process but I dont think they want to destroy the country.
I think we all want a similar stated goal but have different visions for it and processes to get there.
To paint most/many/a large percentage of individuals on either side as wanting to destroy America is fallacious.

To me, the bolded above is a hard sell. I believe there are people in our society that have made it very clear that they are at war and do not want to make things better. I will concede that Trump could articulate things in a way that doesn't incite so many of his political rivals, but the same could be said for many of the spokespeople for the left. I believe the real motivation behind the media attacks is that Trump's justice department is going after some pretty powerful people who engage in nefarious behavior behind the scenes (e.g., "The Lolita Express").

 

[Philo-Publius]

The WSJ just came out with a video calling the left “certifiably insane” and Yahoo put it on their news feed.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/wsj-opinion-democrat-madness-harris-003156475.html

I wonder if we will see it in many other feeds?

 

[Handsome Bruce]

You bozos are too much.

Conservative media has owned talk radio for decades. You have the most popular cable news network. You have tons of online personalities that are extremely popular.

I would be shocked to learn that any of you actually have a college degree, yet I seem to hear you guys exclusively talking about what happens on college campuses. Weird.


They should honestly take your thread starting abilities away. I’ve never met a more clueless idiot who was so sure he had the world figured out.

The youth aren't listening to talk radio and watching cable news.

 

[blaseblah]

"Brainwashing" people with patriotism and the will to work towards their own betterment in a free market system isn't a type of "brainwashing" that is destructive. It served us really well for a very long time.

No, that's how we ended up with a corrupt government controlled by oligarchs who are at the whim of corporations and the military industrial complex. And a voting population that want to elect either a celebrity businessman demagogue or a senile career politician with a terrible record.

 

[Philo-Publius]

No, that's how we ended up with a corrupt government controlled by oligarchs who are at the whim of corporations and the military industrial complex. And a voting population that want to elect either a celebrity businessman demagogue or a senile career politician with a terrible record.

Yeah, right. Socialist systems have far more tyrannical oligarchs than Capitalist ones. If you are being brainwashed to cannibalize your own country from the inside out, you have some issues.

 

[skaleton]

There is no war.

I may not think your process is the right one but I think you want a stronger country.

To me, the bolded above is a hard sell. I believe there are people in our society that have made it very clear that they are at war and do not want to make things better.

Yes. But thats why I think this is the crucial part of that last paragraph I wrote

To paint most/many/a large percentage of individuals on either side as wanting to destroy America is fallacious.

There might be some, but I think you're looking at real low percentages. Even if there were three million rioters, not protesters, that wouldn't even be 1% of the country. I think your war is against a few people but you're applying the mentality to a much larger chunk of the population.
The ones that support the protests but aren't out there doing it are probably more reasonable than you give them credit for. I guess I don't really know your stance on them either way, so that may not be fair to say.
Do you believe we need some form of police reform? I think most of the people that are in support of the protests believe we need police reform. I think a lot of them are probably freaked out at how far it has gone and at some of the ideas that are starting to get thrown around.

I will concede that Trump could articulate things in a way that doesn't incite so many of his political rivals, but the same could be said for many of the spokespeople for the left.

I agree with you on the rhetoric of the left too. In my perception this arms race of being dickheads to each other started with McConnell during Obamas term, Im sure you disagree with that. But at this point it doesn't matter where it started both sides are continuing to be inflammatory. I don't see it getting better if everyone keeps talking how they're talking.

I believe the real motivation behind the media attacks is that Trump's justice department is going after some pretty powerful people who engage in nefarious behavior behind the scenes (e.g., "The Lolita Express").

This is back to our disagreement on Trump. Neither of us is going to make headway in this part of the conversation.
He was boys with Epstein. I can accept the position that he didn't partake in the pedophilia, at this point we've all seen the evidence both ways and have made our decisions, but I think its naive to think Trump didn't know what Epstein was about. I don't think Trump is any sort of anti-pedo crusader.
I guess I can put some stock in this theory if your stance is just that Trump is going after powerful people not because they're pedos. But he's going after powerful people and they happen to be pedos.
Again I think if he is going after people it is for his gain, not ours.

 

[jk7707]

I am 100% right. Monopolies abound for the left. They occupy the lions share of media, and use that control for nefarious purposes.

There is absolutely no mistake in my title thread. It's the end goal of the left.

Hey look now you don't understand the definition of "monopoly". Seems to be a pattern.

 

[GiTGuD]

Yes they have...Fox News/4chan/Youtube/facebook has made first worlders think the sky is falling.


Glenn Beck is part of the problem, exaggerating things, dividing America....POS like him are the problem.

 

[jk7707]

No, but 28 books published by Simon and Schuster, a radio show syndicated on 400 stations by iHeart and Sirius, TV news commentary on all the major cable networks (see below), and a direct to consumer media platform supported by big tech (see below) collectively provide a very conprehensive and widely available media voice for the guy who's saying his voice is being silenced.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blazetv-pro-america/id1080655620
https://channelstore.roku.com/details/82559/blazetv
https://www.amazon.com/A-E-Networks-UK-JV/dp/B07NVSVXQR

Listen, he's just your average Joe with a MEDIA empire and worth an estimated 90+ million dollars. He's got no voice due to the leftists controlling ALL forms of media.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

I've always found it scary that one political ideology controls our schools, music, news, movies and event corporate positions.

Not trying to be ridiculous but stuff like this is how the Nazi's became so powerful in Germany.

The Nazis became so powerful through violence, they certainly didn’t have much of a presence in any arts or media or education until after that. The Nazi’s never won the majority of a national or presidential election, they took dictatorial control by bombing the Reichstag. It wasn’t until after that that they controlled the schools, music, media, etc.

One parallel we do have to now is that they wouldn’t have been able to do so if it weren’t for the fact that the far left communists refused to work with, and actively fought against, the more moderate leftists The Social Democrat’s.

But those who don’t remember history are doomed to repeat it, right @BEER @skysolo etc.? I’m really being over-dramatic there (I’m not trying to “literally Hitler“ but the guy I quoted already did) but it seems like that kind of thread.

 

[Bia]

It's a dangerous ideology and has no place in a democracy society. My parent fled from a communist country and now having a young child makes me fear for the future.

I'd fight tooth and nail if it ever find its place in my community. I urge anyone sane to do the same

 

[MilesAbove]

I get what he was saying. I think if your "brainwashing" leads to white kids rioting against white people simply for being white, you have probably done them a disservice somewhere along the way.

But that's a mischaracterization, and I assume came from an alternative "educational" outlet you use.

 

[Philo-Publius]

Yes. But thats why I think this is the crucial part of that last paragraph I wrote

There might be some, but I think you're looking at real low percentages. Even if there were three million rioters, not protesters, that wouldn't even be 1% of the country. I think your war is against a few people but you're applying the mentality to a much larger chunk of the population.
The ones that support the protests but aren't out there doing it are probably more reasonable than you give them credit for.

Even some of the people who just sit on their couches root this garbage on, but I concede that it is impossible to know what percentage. I come from a big family, and I am related to some of them. Working professionals and educated people. The media is tap dancing on their nerves, and they are taking the bait.

I guess I don't really know your stance on them either way, so that may not be fair to say.
Do you believe we need some form of police reform?

I believe some reforms, and retraining, are necessary. We should always seek to improve law enforcement. I don't support abolishing or defunding law enforcement though. It is a critical institution.

I think most of the people that are in support of the protests believe we need police reform. I think a lot of them are probably freaked out at how far it has gone and at some of the ideas that are starting to get thrown around.

I certainly hope so.

I agree with you on the rhetoric of the left too. In my perception this arms race of being dickheads to each other started with McConnell during Obamas term, Im sure you disagree with that.

I don't recall McConnell's rehtoric. I do believe the Obama administration did some irrevocable damage to our country though.

But at this point it doesn't matter where it started both sides are continuing to be inflammatory. I don't see it getting better if everyone keeps talking how they're talking.
This is back to our disagreement on Trump. Neither of us is going to make headway in this part of the conversation.
He was boys with Epstein. I can accept the position that he didn't partake in the pedophilia, at this point we've all seen the evidence both ways and have made our decisions, but I think its naive to think Trump didn't know what Epstein was about. I don't think Trump is any sort of anti-pedo crusader.
I guess I can put some stock in this theory if your stance is just that Trump is going after powerful people not because they're pedos. But he's going after powerful people and they happen to be pedos.
Again I think if he is going after people it is for his gain, not ours.

I don't see what Trump is gaining though. There is a reason why past Presidents have not made it their crusade to "drain the swamp." There is a lot of danger in that swamp.

 

[Philo-Publius]

Hey look now you don't understand the definition of "monopoly". Seems to be a pattern.

 

[SonFu]

It's the same all over the Western world not just America's problem.


What happens when after WW2 all the Marxists were left to run wild.

 

[Philo-Publius]

But that's a mischaracterization, and I assume came from an alternative "educational" outlet you use.

Not at all a mischaracterization. I assume you learned that from an "alternative educational outlet" you use.

 

[skaleton]

More money in the private sector usually. Liberals are more driven by their beliefs than money in general. Not about being strong or weak. A liberal is cool just teaching rather than taking a risk and doing

@Philo-Publius
I know you agreed when I said it I just wanted to point out the example.
This mentality is why teachers are slanted in one direction.
Conservatives view a job raising up the youth with critical thinking skills as someone who sucks at doing actual things.

@Headkicktoleg
You have two different motives for the liberal in your example.
First you say they are driven by belief over money. Then you say they are too puss to take risk.
Having a drive to do one thing does not mean fear of the other thing.

No matter the teacher, children should not have political opinions forced on them.
But, if you view teaching as failure then only the incompetent will be teachers.
Sounds like conservatives should begin putting ideals over profits if they want things done right.