News *** Conor McGregor Found Civilly Liable for 2018 Sexual Assault MEGA THREAD ***

Stop being obtuse. She didn't have just her tampon on. It was encrusted into her vagina which showed vaginal tear. The doctors said they had never seen a case like that.
You'd be surprised what drugs can do. I strengthen my point by referring you for the fact that she stayed and had a seemingly good time for hours after Mcgregor left. You'd think she'd rush to the hospital? She did in the morning when.. the drugs wore off.
 
You'd be surprised what drugs can do. I strengthen my point by referring you for the fact that she stayed and had a seemingly good time for hours after Mcgregor left. You'd think she'd rush to the hospital? She did in the morning when.. the drugs wore off.

I already told you that they brought medical experts to ask them precisely this, and they said that no this is not something that they had seen before. The same by the crime and trauma specialists. and Conor's defense did not bring any experts to claim otherwise. Nobody even tried to argue that the damages she sustained could have resulted from consensual sex, nobody. Your arrogance is boundless.

There were doctors, doctor reports, cops, specialists. Yet here you are thinking you know something everybody who actually saw the case don't.
 
I already told you that they brought medical experts to ask them precisely this, and they said that no this is not something that they had seen before. The same by the crime and trauma specialists. and Conor's defense did not bring any experts to claim otherwise. Nobody even tried to argue that the damages she sustained could have resulted from consensual sex, nobody. Your arrogance is boundless.

There were doctors, doctor reports, cops, specialists. Yet here you are thinking you know something everybody who actually saw the case don't.
And you're a midwit that dodges the point of the message and the explanation why. She was chilling after, for hours. Went home and to the Hospital in the morning. I'm not saying it was or wasn't consensual. I make the point that drugs do make things like these happen. Which is why she hung around for hours on end until the morning. Address what's being said instead of dancing around it. Ask some Americans what crackheads can do.

You think consensual sex is something different than being raped when under the influence of massive amounts of drugs? Dudes will keep pounding whether it's consensual or not consensual. If the drugs dull you enough this happens. You think a retard like Conor is going to treat her like a rose whether it's consensual or not?

The point you're once again completely missing is that when a situation is chaotic and people are lying and claiming not to remember things while under the influence is Chaos. To prove someone is guilty is that have it be proven without reasonable doubt.
 
And you're a midwit that dodges the point of the message and the explanation why. She was chilling after, for hours. Went home and to the Hospital in the morning. I'm not saying it was or wasn't consensual. I make the point that drugs do make things like these happen. Which is why she hung around for hours on end until the morning. Address what's being said instead of dancing around it. Ask some Americans what crackheads can do.

You think consensual sex is something different than being raped when under the influence of massive amounts of drugs? Dudes will keep pounding whether it's consensual or not consensual. If the drugs dull you enough this happens. You think a retard like Conor is going to treat her like a rose whether it's consensual or not?

The point you're once again completely missing is that when a situation is chaotic and people are lying and claiming not to remember things while under the influence is Chaos. To prove someone is guilty is that have it be proven without reasonable doubt.

All of that was discussed in the trial, all of it. The doctors spoke to this, and the reporters that followed the day-by-day case spoke about her being intoxicated, disoriented, and clearly out of it. The doctors spoke that the bruising and swelling takes hours to settle in, and for the drugs to wear off. But nobody, ever, suggested that the injuries she had resulted from a consensual encounter.

If what you are saying is so reasonable, why wasn't it argued by Conor's team? Why didn't they bring in a doctor or expert that would testify to that?

Because nobody believed that. Nobody said that. At no moment Conor argued "we had rough sex and all of these bruises were the result of a voluntary relation" because nobody thought that was believable. Everyone who saw the photographic evidence agreed. Everyone.

You are a fucking imbecile, beyond repair.
 
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I'd like to refer you to my earlier post, which shows it does happen. For which you will rebuttal she can't consent because she would be under influence. Where you refer to the legal definition of consent. Where I will tell you that it's a slippery slope, which will reset the loop.

The waters muddy when both the participants are under the influence of drugs cheating on their significant others while one side is claiming no consent and rape and the other claims consent. Drugs are in play, it makes the situation chaotic. She could have got raped. Which will result in what you are describing. But if she's getting fucked while on a 2 day bender that could happen too. You will reference the bruises and the marks, I will reference the CCTV footage and the fact that she returned to the Hotel with the mate. It's an uncertain situation. And when the situation is uncertain I recommend a bigger, more in depth trial. You can't possibly state that you're 100% sure he did it.

If a woman is willing to party for multiple days straight on drugs leaving her family, husband and kid in the dark.
I would argue it isn't beyond her to keep in a tampon by way of showing no responsibility and copious amounts of drugs an alcohol. Once again, a lot of Drugs, no sleep and shady behavior is in play which makes the whole situation chaotic. Without a better trial, you're just shooting blanks and base the fact that he's guilty on him being a Narcissistic prick asshole. Could he have done it? Sure. But you need to proof that beyond reasonable doubt. And I see room for reasonable doubt on both sides.

Either way you spin it, the dude should've stayed his ass home and trained and he might not have his name ruined by way of a rape accusation and he might've still had his leg intact.

Please define multiple days..
Because:
The jury had previously heard that on the day of the attack Ms Hand and her colleague Danielle Kealy went to the hotel's penthouse suite with McGregor and Mr Lawrence after their work Christmas party.
They gave evidence of how they had been partying all night from 8 December into the morning of 9 December and had been heavily drinking and taking cocaine."

because meeting up before midnight and party into next day is not really multiple days..
Is a night out for most people..
 
And you're a midwit that dodges the point of the message and the explanation why. She was chilling after, for hours. Went home and to the Hospital in the morning. I'm not saying it was or wasn't consensual. I make the point that drugs do make things like these happen. Which is why she hung around for hours on end until the morning. Address what's being said instead of dancing around it. Ask some Americans what crackheads can do.

You think consensual sex is something different than being raped when under the influence of massive amounts of drugs? Dudes will keep pounding whether it's consensual or not consensual. If the drugs dull you enough this happens. You think a retard like Conor is going to treat her like a rose whether it's consensual or not?

The point you're once again completely missing is that when a situation is chaotic and people are lying and claiming not to remember things while under the influence is Chaos. To prove someone is guilty is that have it be proven without reasonable doubt.
Physiological Reasoning
Substances like benzodiazepines, alcohol, and cocaine have a significant impact on both physical sensation and mental acuity. They dull the ability to register discomfort and impair short-term memory. In such a state, an individual may not notice the physical sensation of a tampon, especially if distracted by other activities or sensations. This is compounded by the chaotic context of multi-day substance use, which may lead to a lack of routine self-care.


Psychological Reasoning
During prolonged substance use, cognitive functions like attention, memory, and self-awareness are heavily impaired. If a person is already emotionally disregarding their usual responsibilities (e.g., family commitments) due to the influence of substances, it's reasonable to conclude that other smaller responsibilities, like monitoring menstruation, might also be neglected or forgotten. The forgetfulness can feel amplified in such an altered state.


Behavioral Reasoning
Extended periods of partying, including the use of intoxicants, often involve a departure from normal habits and routines. People may lose track of time and events, further exacerbated by poor decision-making or lack of attention to personal hygiene. If the tampon had been inserted before the party began, and the individual proceeded to engage in multiple sexual encounters without recalling the initial insertion, this sequence of events becomes plausible.


Social and Contextual Reasoning
Individuals engaging in heavy substance use and party lifestyles are often in environments where personal boundaries and self-care might not be prioritized. Peer dynamics, risky behaviors, and a general environment of excess contribute to neglecting minor physical discomforts or bodily awareness. Under such circumstances, losing track of a tampon is not entirely unexpected.


Clinical Reasoning
It’s documented that tampon retention can occur among individuals under the influence of substances, especially during sexual activity. Medical cases frequently report instances where retained tampons are discovered days or weeks later, often only when symptoms like unusual discharge or infections appear. Such cases aren't exclusive to heavy partying but are more common in contexts where routine and self-awareness are compromised.



Physiological Reasoning


  1. Benzodiazepines impair physical sensations and memory by enhancing the effect of GABA.
  2. Alcohol affects neurotransmitters like GABA and glutamate, impairing sensation and memory.
  3. Cocaine increases dopamine levels, impairing memory and behavior.



Psychological Reasoning


  1. Benzodiazepines cause cognitive impairments, including memory deficits.
  2. Alcohol disrupts brain functions, leading to difficulty in decision-making.
  3. Cocaine impairs attention, memory, and decision-making.



Behavioral Reasoning


  1. Polysubstance use, such as combining alcohol and drugs, increases risky behaviors.



Social and Contextual Reasoning


  1. Heavy substance use environments can lead to impaired decision-making and neglect of hygiene.


Clinical Reasoning

  1. Retained tampons are a common presentation to healthcare providers. If left in place for extended periods, they can lead to infections or, in rare cases, toxic shock syndrome. It's crucial to change tampons regularly and be aware of any unusual symptoms.
  2. Leaving a tampon in for too long can increase the risk of developing toxic shock syndrome (TSS), a rare but life-threatening bacterial infection. It's essential to change tampons regularly and be vigilant about any signs of TSS.

Just curious, are you one of those "manosphere" dudes?
 
Rape or not , cheating on the mother of your children coked up while presenting yourself as a family man must be a real fun time.
 
Just curious, are you one of those "manosphere" dudes?

Well, he does refer to women as "females"

He's also been arguing about tampons for the last 4 days. I wonder if he uses "manpons".
Again with trying to group shame. Have I ever claimed something about any of your characters besides being weak trying to shame people with different opinions?

I use females and women. Because English is my 3rd language. Sometimes the words do not come out as fluid as they would for you. For example I'd use words that sound good to me, but weird to you in conversation. I have difficulty with selecting the right words in context all the time. "talking to you" "speaking to you" I'd might select different words. But thanks for trying to shame me. That will help!

This is the reality. IRL, you guys trying to group shame a person wouldn't fly. You guys can't fight, have probably never sparred and if you did. It less than 100 times. You think online shaming and group attacking flies, in reality you'd get checked and conform.

But in the words of Mike Tyson:

Mike Tyson once posted on social media, "Social media made y'all way to[o] comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."

Please define multiple days..
Because:
The jury had previously heard that on the day of the attack Ms Hand and her colleague Danielle Kealy went to the hotel's penthouse suite with McGregor and Mr Lawrence after their work Christmas party.
They gave evidence of how they had been partying all night from 8 December into the morning of 9 December and had been heavily drinking and taking cocaine."

because meeting up before midnight and party into next day is not really multiple days..
Is a night out for most people..
Even if it's one day. It's again flying past my point. Let's assume it's one day. If she's under the influence of drugs, nothing changes. Ask people what crackheads and addicts can do. Thanks Isa for at least trying to engage, albeit poorly.

Either way I'm done with this thread. Thanks for making me aware again that people are emotional creatures and will go out of their way to dodge the points. Man Sherdog is in a bad state, I see some of you spreading your filth in other threads where if something doesn't align with your ideology you guys get bitchy(imagine giving a fuck on an online karate forum), if this is the current state of the US. Damn, the West is fucked.

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Let's hope he gets a fair criminal trial. Same for the woman(is this okay for you snowflakes?). If he's found guilty there just punish him with the full extent of the law.
 
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Either way I'm done with this thread. Thanks for making me aware again that people are emotional creatures and will go out of their way to dodge the points. Man Sherdog is in a bad state, I see some of you spreading your filth in other threads where if something doesn't align with your ideology you guys get bitchy(imagine giving a fuck on an online karate forum), if this is the current state of the US. Damn, the West is fucked.

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Let's hope he gets a fair criminal trial. Same for the woman(is this okay for you snowflakes?). If he's found guilty there just punish him with the full extent of the law.
I cut out the rest of your 5 page rant so I can highlight the bolded, but you sound pretty damn vested to me lol
 
I'd like to refer you to my earlier post, which shows it does happen. For which you will rebuttal she can't consent because she would be under influence. Where you refer to the legal definition of consent. Where I will tell you that it's a slippery slope, which will reset the loop.

The waters muddy when both the participants are under the influence of drugs cheating on their significant others while one side is claiming no consent and rape and the other claims consent. Drugs are in play, it makes the situation chaotic. She could have got raped. Which will result in what you are describing. But if she's getting fucked while on a 2 day bender that could happen too. You will reference the bruises and the marks, I will reference the CCTV footage and the fact that she returned to the Hotel with the mate. It's an uncertain situation. And when the situation is uncertain I recommend a bigger, more in depth trial. You can't possibly state that you're 100% sure he did it.

If a woman is willing to party for multiple days straight on drugs leaving her family, husband and kid in the dark. I would argue it isn't beyond her to keep in a tampon by way of showing no responsibility and copious amounts of drugs an alcohol. Once again, a lot of Drugs, no sleep and shady behavior is in play which makes the whole situation chaotic. Without a better trial, you're just shooting blanks and base the fact that he's guilty on him being a Narcissistic prick asshole. Could he have done it? Sure. But you need to proof that beyond reasonable doubt. And I see room for reasonable doubt on both sides.

Either way you spin it, the dude should've stayed his ass home and trained and he might not have his name ruined by way of a rape accusation and he might've still had his leg intact.

Thats why there wasn't a criminal trial, the jury only has to be 51% sure in a civil trial.
"More likely than not"
 
Thats why there wasn't a criminal trial, the jury only has to be 51% sure in a civil trial.
"More likely than not"
I understand that, but with things like rape and a lot of details up in the air that's a pretty messed up trial to take. If 49% of all people in jail would've been there by way of 51% probabilities(hypothetical) we'd have a big problem.
 
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Why did so many regions help the West overthrow the Ottoman Empire in WW1 if life was so great under them?

You think the Ottoman Empire is somehow less extreme in their views than the taliban? Get outta here.

Even modern day Palestine under Israel is light years better than Palestinian life under the Ottomans, and it was the west that overthrew them.

Western interference helped end the numerous genocide of different ethnic groups in the Middle East being carried out by the Ottoman Empire.

Cry more about our interference in saving millions and preventing mass genocide.
Stop.
 
Even if it's one day. It's again flying past my point.

My point is that you are saying something that is not true, to support your argument.
At least have the detail correctly.

This is not in good faith:
"If a woman is willing to party for multiple days straight on drugs leaving her family, husband and kid in the dark. "
 
I understand that, but with things like rape and a lot of details up in the air that's a pretty messed up trial to take. If 49% of all people in jail would've been there by way of 51% probabilities(hypothetical) we'd have a big problem.
That's why the juries in those cases have to be 100% sure, you can't go to jail for breaching civil law.
The cancellation is a bit weird considering it was a civil trial, i do agree.
He was pretty vulgar in the trail though so maybe that's why.
 
That's why the juries in those cases have to be 100% sure, you can't go to jail for breaching civil law.
The cancellation is a bit weird considering it was a civil trial, i do agree.
He was pretty vulgar in the trail though so maybe that's why.
Is it really?
Brands / companies do not want to be associated with stuff like this..

I mean BMW cut ties with Israel A over comments he made.

"Adesanya said he ‘will f****ing’ rape’ Holland in an Instagram video, which he since deleted, with the rivalry between the pair reaching a new low.

According to Australian TV network Nine, he has since lost his potentially lucrative deal with the car manufacturer.

A statement read: "Due to the comments made by an athlete online, we have reviewed our pending association with said athlete and we have decided not to push forward with a specific ambassador for the brand at this time in New Zealand."
 
That's why the juries in those cases have to be 100% sure, you can't go to jail for breaching civil law.
The cancellation is a bit weird considering it was a civil trial, i do agree.
He was pretty vulgar in the trail though so maybe that's why.
I think we can all agree with Mcgregor being a massive prick irl. A far cry from before. And I'd say even before, he was a prick. Just with bucketloads of charisma and a touch of humble in between. Won't be the best strategy for a trial. People are heavily influenced by emotions and if you act like a prick, they'll be more likely to give the other party the benefit of the doubt. It is what it is. Dude is on the spiral down.
 

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