International Climate Change Deniers...

[dirtypablo]

The entire concept of the word climate is the general pattern of weather and temperature inferred from a very large sample size of measurements. It's a trend. You can never prove a trend wrong using a single data point. Logic 101 people, shit you learn in high school. If we're playing the game of "A Single Data Point Proves A Trend Wrong," the "deniers" could simply point to the February 2021 freeze in Texas as proof that climate change doesn't exist. You people don't even understand your own position, and you think you can prove the "deniers" wrong? You can't even enter the conversation properly.

Um, what. The Texas freeze was likely caused by climate change. The destabilization of the polar vortex causes atmospheric patterns to change resulting in places that don't usually see extreme cold having such events.

 

[dirtypablo]

The question isn't whether the climate is changing, it's if it's caused by man.

This isn't a question to anyone but uneducated idiots. It's overwhelmingly clear, with mountains of evidence for decades.

 

[KOPPE]

That's wouldn't be suicide, that would be mass murder. So what you're really saying is a billion people need to get mass murdered. And let me guess, you think people like you ahould get to pick which billion, right?

Why is it that all extreme left wing rhetoric always seems to come back to 'we should murder a bunch of people.'

Yes. I'd start with conservatives and flat earthers and work my way to centrists whos ok with Trump.
Nothing of value would be lost.

 

[irish_thug]

I agree and create a tax per mile for cars.. Just not for those private jets

That already exists. Fuel tax

 

[jefferz]

This is comically stupid. Yeah, that goddamn man in the talking picture box is the reason poor people don't run out and buy a Tesla and demand higher energy costs and rolling blackouts.

The sun monster is coming because those damn poor people in the US who rarely fly if ever, and don't live in big houses, aren't demanding a substantially higher cost of living. Derp.

Even though every car loan is different, the average monthly payment for a Tesla car loan is between $1,100 and $2,500.

So the rolling blackouts that would be caused by everyone buying Teslas, could be fixed by updating our infrastructure, correct? It would make logical sense to update the grid, Republicans already parrot that our infrastructure is crumbling. An upgrade to the grid would satisfy both sides. Let's get er done.
But there's a hold up. When it comes time to vote on infrastructure bills, one side constantly votes against them.

Why do you keep focusing so much on Tesla cars? There's so much more to renewables than a car.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Uncontrolled variable such as human development was obviously always going to impact global conditions. Scale, remedy and timelines are where the debate should be happening.

 

[dirtypablo]

You call people fucking idiots when you have two brain cells yourself. Any meaningful change of man's affect on the climate would require a return to the stone age. It's preposterous. It's also about personal freedom. Fuck you and your type for thinking you can control people. Want to fix climate change? Get in the lab yourself and start working on new technology that helps. Otherwise, shut your mouth, retard.

No, it wouldn't. You don't have the slightest clue as to what you're talking about. The technology to solve this problem exists, it's just a question of momentum. It's not exactly easy to disrupt an industry that makes trillions of dollars a year.

You dorks think the tiny solar industry is pulling the strings when the fossil fuels industry is multiple orders of magnitude more powerful. The degree to which you idiots have been blinded to something not only so incredibly obvious but also that's not in your best interests is embarrassing. Imagine simping for an industry that makes trillions a year and has it's hand in government policies for decades.

 

[Tatra]

This isn't a question to anyone but uneducated idiots. It's overwhelmingly clear, with mountains of evidence for decades.

 

[ferrisjso]

Unless your a science denier, you cant "both side" this.
overpopulation is a MAJOR threat to our planet. The more people there are, the more resources that must be pillaged from the earth to sustain the growing population. simple equation.

No capitalism is. Without capitalism the earth would be fine with double the people.

Overpopulation is going to level off at the end of the century and go down a bit even without climate change. It is not a threat the people saying it is are full of shit.

 

[dirtypablo]

The evidence and research is there for anyone actually interested. Any of the IPCC reports, which are compiled from literally 10s of thousands of studies would be a good place to start if you wanted to educate yourself.

Or just post memes and keep simping for the oil industry.

 

[Tatra]

The evidence and research is there for anyone actually interested. Any of the IPCC reports, which are compiled from literally 10s of thousands of studies would be a good place to start if you wanted to educate yourself.

Or just post memes and keep simping for the oil industry.

It's not a proven fact man is responsible for climate change.

 

[dirtypablo]

It's not a proven fact man is responsible for climate change.

Yes, it is. Again, the evidence is there for anyone who actually wants to look. It's not even remotely questionable at this point.

 

[Tatra]

No capitalism is. Without capitalism the earth would be fine with double the people.

Overpopulation is going to level off at the end of the century and go down a bit even without climate change. It is not a threat the people saying it is are full of shit.

Yeah you're right... everyone knows the Soviet Union and communist China never produced any significant amount of pollution.

 

[ferrisjso]

Yeah you're right... everyone knows the Soviet Union and communist China never produced any significant amount of pollution.

They don't have an ideological committment to expand forever and at increasing rates either.

 

[Tatra]

They don't have an ideological committment to expand forever and at increasing rates either.

There is no "ideological commitment" in capitalism to do such a thing. Why do you dumb fuck communists never understand what capitalism actually is?

 

[ferrisjso]

There is no "ideological commitment" in capitalism to do such a thing. Why do you dumb fuck communists never understand what capitalism actually is?

Yes there is a committment to infinite growth.

 

[gspieler]

OP is flawed logic(because weather =\= climate). Having said that, this does seem to be an issue that conservatives are particularly willfully ignorant and/or disingenuous about.

First climate change is a hoax/doesn't exist(despite clear evidence to the contrary).

Then it exists, but it's not manmade(despite average temperature correlating linearly with human population/CO2 emissions).

Then, ok, man does contribute, but not much. It's "natural cycles" and shit(because, yeah, experiencing climate trends over a few centuries that one would would reasonably expect to take millions of years, is totally normal).

At some point, the prevailing opinion from the right will be, "it does exist, and man is a major contributor to it, but there's nothing we can do about at this point, so just embrace it".

There's abviously many unknown variables on this issue, and there are opportunists on all sides, but I think when viewed objectively, it's pretty clear which side of the argument has less credibility. Just IMO, though.

 

[ShadowRun]

That already exists. Fuel tax

Well it needs to be taxed more, it's the only way to save the planet. I don't even care about the millions of illegals dumping trash as they travel.

 

[Tatra]

Yes there is a committment to infinite growth.

Growth is human nature you moron. It's why civilisation exists in the first place. So yes, it applies just as much to communist states. Man has been wrecking the natural world for the last 10,000+ years. There used to be cedar forests all across the middle-east, as far east as Persia. North Africa used to have dense forests too, but the Egyptians and others cut them all down. Did capitalism exist back then? Engage brain.

 

[Barteh]

You really are an imbecile arent you?

This WAS an oasis, are you familiar with what an oasis is? Are you capable of comprehending how desert climates are even settled in the first place? Water sources are very necessary to find and there's actually a never-ending source of underground water here that's now radioactive thanks to nuclear weapons testing. So yeah, humans definitely massively f*ck up climates. And you're an idiot on the internet who claims my wife's entire field of study and the concencus within is a scam lol

Typical with you extreme leftist retards and your fantasies. Whenever your fake reality gets challenged there's insults and deflections only.

Whenever people screech about climate change or global warming it's generally understood that they're talking about changes on a global scale, that they then attribute to humans. Nobody is denying that humans pollute on a local level, nice attempt at a deflection though.