Circling The Arguments (SCO thread v. 32)

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And hypocrisy keeps on keeping on. It was the Republicans in 2012 that complained constantly the the Obummer administration was the least transparent and shit needed changing. It was one of Trump selling points, he tells it like it is or how it’s made up in his mind.

It’s simply unAmerican to not want to see the report. Remember, these motherfuckers are civil servants not Kings.


Curious, can you find a single right leaning poster here who has said specifically they did not want the report to come out?

Personally, as long as they follow the law, release it. The last word has been spoken. The most the left will get out of it is a talking point. That’s a fantastic trade for handing trump his biggest weapon in 2020.
 
You guys have been patting yourselves on the backs about a 4 page summary of a 300 plus page report produced by a Bush era hack put into place by our president based upon his previous views of executive power.

Talk about forming your opinion.

He said in thread version 32 of libs patting themselves on the back over non-existing collusion.
 
He said in thread version 32 of libs patting themselves on the back over non-existing collusion.

You have a rather skewed view of reality. It's funny when people take a W over so many people in the guy's circle being corrupt and charged over corruption pertaining to Russia.
 
You have a rather skewed view of reality. It's funny when people take a W over so many people in the guy's circle being corrupt and charged over corruption pertaining to Russia.

Dude, let it go. You just sound unhinged now.
 
TLDR answer, because the AG has the final say. Nobody is going to take the house seriously, they’ve been yelling impeachment since day 1. If they had not, perhaps they would get some traction, but they’ve created so much noise, it will be nearly impossible to get out a message that’s taken seriously. Especially considering the republicans can simply point to the AG, who consulted Rosenstien and the OLC to form their decision.

Btw, I have no problem with the report being released, as long as they follow the rules (such as the courts recent decision to not release grand jury info). Now, don’t get me wrong, I’d laugh my ass off if they just tucked it away and we got another year of liberals screeching about it, but alas, that’s a pipe dream...

Nobody is taking the AG seriously Bob, approval for Barr's decision is at 39%, which is even lower than Trump's approval rating. I mean only slightly more than half of Americans even accept that the Trump campaign didn't criminally conspire with Russia, which is a much higher standard than just collusion, which encompasses inappropriate and unethical contacts.

And, if it's true about there being more shady shit in there than has been previously reported (e.g., we only know about Manafort sharing polling data because his lawyer is dumber than Cohen) and/or if there are things that came out of people flipping that could not be corroborated to the level that Mueller would feel comfortable taking it to court (e.g., not just making it Gate's word against Manafort's) then it just plays into the narrative that Trump is guilty of obstructing the Russia investigation and he brought in a shill to save him, regardless of what Mueller actually concluded about the criminal conspiracy, and that there is more to the story that couldn't come out because of Trump's obstruction and offers of pardons. The appearance of a cover up just breeds conspiracy theories that will never go away.

Overall though, it's absurd that all of the right wingers who applauded wikileaks for "allowing for transparency" (as part of a crime by Russian hackers) are now fighting against the release of what prosecutors want to tell the public about the Russia investigation. Trump defenders just don't have a leg to stand on here, I mean come on. Bill "Mueller is my friend" Barr is tainted and writes a new desperate memo every few days to try to cover for his previous memos, Rod "the wire" Rosenstein is already tainted from firing Comey which is why he needed to appoint Mueller in the first place, and the OLC was legally beaten and tainted like a week into Trump's presidency.
 
Numerous dealings with foreign entities without reporting them, massive fraud, lying to investigators, perjury, witness tampering. Lots of crimes spread about his top people.


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I couldn’t help but notice a distinct lack of Russia in your post...
 
Nobody is taking the AG seriously Bob, approval for Barr's decision is at 39%, which is even lower than Trump's approval rating. I mean only slightly more than half of Americans even accept that the Trump campaign didn't criminally conspire with Russia, which is a much higher standard than just collusion, which encompasses inappropriate and unethical contacts.

And, if it's true about there being more shady shit in there than has been previously reported (e.g., we only know about Manafort sharing polling data because his lawyer is dumber than Cohen) and/or if there are things that came out of people flipping that could not be corroborated to the level that Mueller would feel comfortable taking it to court (e.g., not just making it Gate's word against Manafort's) then it just plays into the narrative that Trump is guilty of obstructing the Russia investigation and he brought in a shill to save him, regardless of what Mueller actually concluded about the criminal conspiracy, and that there is more to the story that couldn't come out because of Trump's obstruction and offers of pardons. The appearance of a cover up just breeds conspiracy theories that will never go away.

Overall though, it's absurd that all of the right wingers who applauded wikileaks for "allowing for transparency" (as part of a crime by Russian hackers) are now fighting against the release of what prosecutors want to tell the public about the investigation. Trump defenders just don't have a leg to stand on here, I mean come on. Bill "Mueller is my friend" Barr is tainted and writes a new desperate memo every few days to try to cover for his previous memos, Rod "the wire" Rosenstein is already tainted from firing Comey which is why he needed to appoint Mueller in the first place, and the OLC was legally beaten and tainted like a week into Trump's presidency.



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Not even reading past your first sentence.


“Nobody is taking the AG seriously”

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Do you fucking hear yourself???

You know who took him seriously? Meuller. You know, the guy who left the decision up to him.
 
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Not even reading past your first sentence.


“Nobody is taking the AG seriously”

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Do you fucking hear yourself???

You know who took him seriously? Meuller. You know, the guy who left the decision up to him.

That is a lazy shit post even for you Bob.

Smatter, you eat too heavy of a lunch or something? Come on, give a real argument a shot, I will even hold you up for a few rounds to make you feel better about yourself.
 
Curious, can you find a single right leaning poster here who has said specifically they did not want the report to come out?

Personally, as long as they follow the law, release it. The last word has been spoken. The most the left will get out of it is a talking point. That’s a fantastic trade for handing trump his biggest weapon in 2020.

Not sure it’s a huge weapon. Independents stay that way weeks before an election and the tribes don’t care because group think.
 
Not sure it’s a huge weapon. Independents stay that way weeks before an election and the tribes don’t care because group think.


Do you think “fake news” was an effective weapon before?
 
Not sure it’s a huge weapon. Independents stay that way weeks before an election and the tribes don’t care because group think.


Let me paint the picture for you,

CNN just dropped a “bombshell” report. Trump is at a rally, broadcast on cnn (for extra LULS), and says “you see this new story on cnn? Who even watches these losers anymore, they’re fake news. There’s about as much truth in this story a Russian Collusion Delusion.”

It’s going to be a very powerful weapon. Think about it, how many “bombshell” reports did cnn and msnbc have about Muh russia?

Ever hear of the boy who cried wolf?

Tucker just beat all of CNN’s prime time shows, COMBINED.

They’ve worked hard to earn the title fake news.
 
Let me paint the picture for you,

CNN just dropped a “bombshell” report. Trump is at a rally, broadcast on cnn (for extra LULS), and says “you see this new story on cnn? Who even watches these losers anymore, they’re fake news. There’s about as much truth in this story a Russian Collusion Delusion.”

It’s going to be a very powerful weapon. Think about it, how many “bombshell” reports did cnn and msnbc have about Muh russia?

Ever hear of the boy who cried wolf?

Tucker just beat all of CNN’s prime time shows, COMBINED.

They’ve worked hard to earn the title fake news.

The only people that listen to his garbage are his base. I’ve never seen an Indy voter chant lock her up or build the wall.
 
Let me paint the picture for you,

CNN just dropped a “bombshell” report. Trump is at a rally, broadcast on cnn (for extra LULS), and says “you see this new story on cnn? Who even watches these losers anymore, they’re fake news. There’s about as much truth in this story a Russian Collusion Delusion.”

It’s going to be a very powerful weapon. Think about it, how many “bombshell” reports did cnn and msnbc have about Muh russia?

Ever hear of the boy who cried wolf?

Tucker just beat all of CNN’s prime time shows, COMBINED.

They’ve worked hard to earn the title fake news.

It’s also very disenginious of you to shift the media’s narrative and the Mueller probe to just Russian collusion. The probe did what it was intended, just because Trump wasn’t charged doesn’t mean MSM reporting was fake as If I recall Chris Cuomo on many occasions tell panelist and the audience that he doesn’t think Trump will get charged.
 
The only people that listen to his garbage are his base. I’ve never seen an Indy voter chant lock her up or build the wall.


Right, they quietly step in the booth and vote trump.

How many attacks on trump supporters in the last 6 months?
 
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