Catch Wrestling Instructionals?

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  1. Guest

    I've already gave a try at the search function and I got nothing. Does anyone know if there are any good catch wrestling istructionals or books? (Don't tell me about how I should look for a instructor etc.. I already have there aren't any in my area)
     
  2. flyingknee16

    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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    Tony Cecchine's Catch Wrestling DVDs.
     
  3. Spoonman7

    Spoonman7 Red Belt

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    Cecchines are the best on the subject available, Matt FUrey has some instructionals out there but I don't know how good they are.
     
  4. flyingknee16

    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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    Honestly, I don't think most of that catch stuff works. You have to be mad strong for a lot of it to work. Stick to BJJ. Some of the stuff works but I'd put my money on bread and butter BJJ.
     
  5. FiveByFive

    FiveByFive White Belt

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    Most of the positional stuff is great. And a lot of the holds can work, you just need to force them.

    ps. don't listen to this guy, he promotes macs
     
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    pSyKOaLby Purple Belt

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    I remember Joe Rogan and Eddie Bravo bagging on that stuff.
     
  7. LuNoTiCK

    LuNoTiCK White Belt

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    Holds and submissions shouldn't have to be "forced". Are you saying you need to be stronger for the guy for it to work? Sure there are some things that you should be athletic for, and it always helps, but not everything should be forced.
     
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    scorcho Brown Belt

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    I would like to try catch. Anythink you can add to your game will help you.
     
  9. flyingknee16

    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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    I admit the positional stuff is great. I can tap people out from my head and arm position simply by crushing them with weight. But soome of the subs are so whack, it feels like you are just trying to grab for anything and just yank or twist and try to sub them. Unless you are super strong and can muscle things well, I would stick to mainly BJJ while incoporating some of catch, but to be mainly a catch guy, I don't think it's a great idea.

    btw, I have the cecchine dvds, so i come from a qualfied opinion.
     
  10. FiveByFive

    FiveByFive White Belt

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    I know, I was just kidding around.

    Catch requires forcing submissions, correct? You have to force mistakes.
     
  11. otsukafan

    otsukafan Purple Belt

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    Actually the best on the subject would be the fujiwara instructionals just re-released...
     
  12. flyingknee16

    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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    hehe, yeah dude, i know, i was just making a general statement.
     
  13. Foolkiller

    Foolkiller You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!

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    Just get the Bas Big DVDs of Combat.
     
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    John O'Brien They call me Barnacle Bill.

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    You know, alot of it does work.. I was over trianing with Leigh Remedios in the UK and he showed us some catch. Alot of it is very effective.
     
  15. flyingknee16

    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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    Maybe I haven't done enough of Catch to be able to fully recognize its potential... but I have some sort of "Catch" mentality I guess, since I do enjoy doing lots of neck cranks and I use unconvential kind of submissions that Bas rutten teaches. Or maybe that's just submission grappling...
     
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    When I see Saku in his prime his wily grappling it reminds me of some or wrestling with a strange twist, so I turned to "Catch" thanks for the advice guys.
     
  17. The obvious answer here is "Grappling World: The Encyclopedia of Finishing Holds" by Gene Lebell. That book seriously probably has every catch wrestling move ever invented. I love it.
     
  18. VagabondMusashi

    VagabondMusashi Banned Banned

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    Sakuraba is a catch wrestler. Look what he did to BJJ.
    I
     
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    flyingknee16 Brown Belt

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  20. Dash_Riprock

    Dash_Riprock Yellow Belt

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    I really catch the flavor of what you're saying, and I kind of agree with you. I have the Cecchine set, and I have to say that his theories on positional dominance are a good add-on to a solid BJJ game. However, some of the submissions he shows are just stupid as hell.

    Remember the one he does from the half guard position? You basically take your free leg and step all the way over their head. Then you try to twist them into a pretzel by scissoring your legs together. I could maybe get that on one of my kids.

    Interesting ideas to say the least, but some of his ideas don't pan out in the wash...unless you're a big goon and your training partner is Barney Fife.

    Oh, almost forgot...I really like his leg lock material.
     

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