Law Capitol Rioter Megathread
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I'm with you on this. People who use words repug or demoncrats, or chudd, or orange man, or snowflake or anything to that effect when they need to demonstrate their political knowledge are people I just can't relate to. I have an ex neighbor who is an ex republican voter who consistently used those expressions to 'debate' with others. he gave up on the republican party renounced stupid politics and then is now a full on libertarian who engages people the same way. different hat, same shit.
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Every time you get facts thrown in your face you pivot to another Orange Man is Bad so….
Any chance you want to acknowledge the constant owning? For example when you asked in horror how could Forbes be biased against Trump and I provided actual statements from Forbes himself and you dodged….
Orange man Bad is your theme and not a healthy discussion. My whole point is about the indirect benefits to America by him exposing the deep state corruption and his better intention to preserve this country. I never claimed to support of the bulk of his behavior or him as a person (although still more human than the other side).
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He sounds like a chud. <Lmaoo><45>
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It's kind of sad in a way, especially when i see a friend start down these paths. If they don't get a grip they spiral into the usual boxed in, buzz word positions while alienating everyone around them, and for what? A sense of belonging? Or a desire to triumph?
The posters who invest far too much time (we all probably invest too much time on here) picking battles with anyone who even sniffs in the direction of an opposing viewpoint are playing a role but to be that person in real life must be exhausting. We should all go outside more...
Finding common ground and recognizing we are together in the fight when having face to face banter is really rewarding, to see someone drop the defensiveness and start to think about how they've been programmed to push others away benefits everyone...
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I've only ever seen the word chud here, though I feel like Chud was the name of the space turtle in Stephen King's It.
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my wife and I are different ideologically, though to be fair, I was more like her as a younger man and when we first met. but we are both realistically centrists who lean slightly each direction. we don't discuss politics and are able to make fun at the idiocy on both sides of the aisle.
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Nah, I was just done with you. I don't feel like going down the rabbit hole. You initially didn't dispute the $2.4 billion dollar number, you just argued that it was a small amount of money. Then later you came back and started complaining about the source of that number. I picked an article from Forbes, because I thought that a right-leaning publication would be more acceptable to you. But you are a conspiracy theorist, so you are going to have a problem with any source that doesn't back your world-view.
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I said $2.4B over 4 years is a huge dip in revenue pre POTUS for Trump corp. The absolute scale of it being in BILLIONS means nothing other than illustrates out of context prop-fodder to you YURI-BOTS. Not worth debating economics or finance with a barista...
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just to spite our fellow maga muppets and election fraud flat-earthers in this thread i think i'ma post a cnn story.
Convicted US Capitol rioter's son says he 'absolutely' agrees with father's sentence
CNN)The son of Guy Reffitt, the first US Capitol riot defendant to go to trial rather than take a plea agreement, said his father "absolutely" deserves the 87-month prison sentence that was handed down Monday.
"I mean, I'm not happy at all. I haven't been happy to this whole situation. No one in my family has either, but to say I'm surprised would be a lie," Jackson Reffitt told CNN's Brianna Keilar on "New Day" Tuesday in reaction to his father's sentence. "I mean, everything my dad did, he's his own person. And his action has consequences. But I'm not happy at all."
Guy Reffitt, a recruiter-in-chud for a right-wing militia known as the Three Percenters, was sentenced to serve more than seven years in prison, the longest insurrection-related sentence to date.
He had been convicted by a DC jury in March of five felonies -- wanting to obstruct the congressional certification of the 2020 presidential election, transporting guns into DC, carrying a handgun onto Capitol grounds, interfering with Capitol Police protecting the Upper West Terrace and obstructing justice by threatening his daughter and son, who had turned him into the FBI.
"I mean, realistically, this doesn't have a matter of political opinion. What my father did is far from politics. This is completely off the rails violence. Whether it had a political motive at this point doesn't matter. It's more about what he does and who he did it for," Jackson Reffitt told Keilar.
His father, Reffitt argued, was "used as a puppet" for Donald Trump, adding of the then-President: "It is disgusting to see that someone with ... money and social power can just get away with manipulating thousands of people just for whatever reason, and have no outcome."
During the trial, Capitol Police officers testified about battling Guy Reffitt outside the Capitol on January 6, 2021, and prosecutors called him a leader of the crowd. He also recorded a video on January 6 in which he made threatening comments about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/02/politics/january-6-rioter-guy-reffitt-son-sentence-cnntv/index.html
this family man chud right here packed up his guns and larping gear on a mission to assassinate nancy pelosi and then he threatened his own children if they snitched him out. the party of family values. enjoy your 87 months in prison ya stupid sack of shit. don't drop the soap! and even steve bannon got his pardon, so don't worry ya maga muppet, daddy will come for you!
Convicted US Capitol rioter's son says he 'absolutely' agrees with father's sentence
CNN)The son of Guy Reffitt, the first US Capitol riot defendant to go to trial rather than take a plea agreement, said his father "absolutely" deserves the 87-month prison sentence that was handed down Monday.
"I mean, I'm not happy at all. I haven't been happy to this whole situation. No one in my family has either, but to say I'm surprised would be a lie," Jackson Reffitt told CNN's Brianna Keilar on "New Day" Tuesday in reaction to his father's sentence. "I mean, everything my dad did, he's his own person. And his action has consequences. But I'm not happy at all."
Guy Reffitt, a recruiter-in-chud for a right-wing militia known as the Three Percenters, was sentenced to serve more than seven years in prison, the longest insurrection-related sentence to date.
He had been convicted by a DC jury in March of five felonies -- wanting to obstruct the congressional certification of the 2020 presidential election, transporting guns into DC, carrying a handgun onto Capitol grounds, interfering with Capitol Police protecting the Upper West Terrace and obstructing justice by threatening his daughter and son, who had turned him into the FBI.
"I mean, realistically, this doesn't have a matter of political opinion. What my father did is far from politics. This is completely off the rails violence. Whether it had a political motive at this point doesn't matter. It's more about what he does and who he did it for," Jackson Reffitt told Keilar.
His father, Reffitt argued, was "used as a puppet" for Donald Trump, adding of the then-President: "It is disgusting to see that someone with ... money and social power can just get away with manipulating thousands of people just for whatever reason, and have no outcome."
During the trial, Capitol Police officers testified about battling Guy Reffitt outside the Capitol on January 6, 2021, and prosecutors called him a leader of the crowd. He also recorded a video on January 6 in which he made threatening comments about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/02/politics/january-6-rioter-guy-reffitt-son-sentence-cnntv/index.html
this family man chud right here packed up his guns and larping gear on a mission to assassinate nancy pelosi and then he threatened his own children if they snitched him out. the party of family values. enjoy your 87 months in prison ya stupid sack of shit. don't drop the soap! and even steve bannon got his pardon, so don't worry ya maga muppet, daddy will come for you!
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A pro-Trump social media influencer who posted about his role in the Jan. 6 siege was arrested this week on Capitol riot charges
A right-wing social media influencer who posted videos of himself participating in the January 6 Capitol riot was arrested this week after an anonymous tipster flagged photos of the pro-Trump YouTuber to the FBI.
William Kit, better known online as "Semore Views," was charged with four misdemeanor counts last month, including entering and remaining in a restricted building, disorderly conduct, and demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol building.
Kit's musings on patriotism and politics have garnered him a significant social media following, with more than 37,000 YouTube subscribers and 78,700 Instagram followers.
The Daily Beast and WUSA were first to report on Kit's arrest after court documents in the case were unsealed this week. The DC man made his initial appearance in court on Monday where he was released on a personal recognizance bond and with several conditions, WUSA reported.
Videos on Kit's Semore Views YouTube channel show him among the mob of Trump supporters outside the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, facing off against law enforcement officers.
"Are you willing to fucking die for this shit?" Kit can be heard shouting in one video. "We are here to die for this shit today."
Kit also filmed himself walking into the Capitol through the Senate Wing door. Once inside the building, he can be heard asking, "Where are those goddamn politicians at? [We're] taking over the goddamn Capitol."
Closed-circuit television footage captured Kit exiting the building through a broken window a couple of minutes later, according to court documents.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pro-trump-influencer-who-posted-about-jan-6-arrested-charged-2022-8
this fine spectrum of short bus chuds sure can't seem to keep their mouths shut about their crimes.
funny thing is that none of these self-proclaimed patriots were ready to die. the moment that one of their own got shot the rest of them folded like a bunch of pussies.
A right-wing social media influencer who posted videos of himself participating in the January 6 Capitol riot was arrested this week after an anonymous tipster flagged photos of the pro-Trump YouTuber to the FBI.
William Kit, better known online as "Semore Views," was charged with four misdemeanor counts last month, including entering and remaining in a restricted building, disorderly conduct, and demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol building.
Kit's musings on patriotism and politics have garnered him a significant social media following, with more than 37,000 YouTube subscribers and 78,700 Instagram followers.
The Daily Beast and WUSA were first to report on Kit's arrest after court documents in the case were unsealed this week. The DC man made his initial appearance in court on Monday where he was released on a personal recognizance bond and with several conditions, WUSA reported.
Videos on Kit's Semore Views YouTube channel show him among the mob of Trump supporters outside the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, facing off against law enforcement officers.
"Are you willing to fucking die for this shit?" Kit can be heard shouting in one video. "We are here to die for this shit today."
Kit also filmed himself walking into the Capitol through the Senate Wing door. Once inside the building, he can be heard asking, "Where are those goddamn politicians at? [We're] taking over the goddamn Capitol."
Closed-circuit television footage captured Kit exiting the building through a broken window a couple of minutes later, according to court documents.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pro-trump-influencer-who-posted-about-jan-6-arrested-charged-2022-8
this fine spectrum of short bus chuds sure can't seem to keep their mouths shut about their crimes.
funny thing is that none of these self-proclaimed patriots were ready to die. the moment that one of their own got shot the rest of them folded like a bunch of pussies.
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Popular vote (biden) 81,268,924 vs (trump) 74,216,154
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The cope is real
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Shrug.
When you attempt an insurrection / take over a capitol building and fail, these are the consequences.
Whether or not you agree with the tactic, you can't summon the spirit of the Boston Tea Party without recognizing what risk they were taking. They were taking life in hand.
While I don't agree with the Jan 6th folks, I give them credit for focusing their periviolent behavior toward political targets and not burning down and looting the businesses of the general public.
But those actions have significant consequences
When you attempt an insurrection / take over a capitol building and fail, these are the consequences.
Whether or not you agree with the tactic, you can't summon the spirit of the Boston Tea Party without recognizing what risk they were taking. They were taking life in hand.
While I don't agree with the Jan 6th folks, I give them credit for focusing their periviolent behavior toward political targets and not burning down and looting the businesses of the general public.
But those actions have significant consequences
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another one...
Man accused of leaving loaded gun on Capitol grounds during Jan. 6 riot
A Missouri man left a loaded 9mm semiautomatic pistol on the grounds of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, according to prosecutors.
Jerod Thomas Bargar, 36, of Centralia, Mo., was arrested Wednesday; he is one of a small group of people accused of illegally carrying guns during the riot that forced a delay in certifying the results of the 2020 election.
Lawmakers investigating the attack revealed recently that then-President Donald Trump knew some members of the crowd were armed and said they should be let through security regardless. Only four other people have been charged with taking guns onto the Capitol grounds that day. But police have said they understood many more in the crowd to be armed. One defendant, Guy Reffitt, said in a video played at trial that from the front of the crowd, he could see eight firearms carried by five people. Reffitt, a Texas man who was the first Jan. 6 defendant to be convicted at trial, received a sentence of more than seven years for five felonies that included carrying a firearm to a riot — the stiffest punishment in the Capitol attack investigation so far.
In the case against Bargar, D.C. police officers found the gun on the ground amid rioters at about 2:30 p.m., according to an FBI agent’s affidavit, but did not know to whom it belonged. The pistol was in a distinctive holster depicting the American flag and the words “We the People.” There was one cartridge in the chamber and 15 in the magazine.
Bargar was first identified through an anonymous tip and interviewed by the FBI on Jan. 18, 2021, according to the court record. He said he came to D.C. with a friend but did not enter the Capitol or do anything illegal in the “chaos” because he knew where the “line” was, according to the affidavit.
At the time, the agents did not know Bargar had brought a gun. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives subsequently found that the gun had been owned by an individual who pawned it in Missouri, where it was bought by Bargar’s stepfather. In a subsequent interview, according to the affidavit, Bargar said he lost the gun when trying to help a woman who had been knocked to the ground. Bargar added that he wanted to be armed when he went to the “belly of the beast” for his own “self-protection.”
D.C. law bars concealed carrying of firearms without a permit and open carrying; no guns are allowed on the Capitol grounds. Bargar told the FBI he was unaware of those laws at the time of the riot.
A public defender who represented Bargar at his initial appearance declined to comment.
Man accused of leaving loaded gun on Capitol grounds during Jan. 6 riot
A Missouri man left a loaded 9mm semiautomatic pistol on the grounds of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, according to prosecutors.
Jerod Thomas Bargar, 36, of Centralia, Mo., was arrested Wednesday; he is one of a small group of people accused of illegally carrying guns during the riot that forced a delay in certifying the results of the 2020 election.
Lawmakers investigating the attack revealed recently that then-President Donald Trump knew some members of the crowd were armed and said they should be let through security regardless. Only four other people have been charged with taking guns onto the Capitol grounds that day. But police have said they understood many more in the crowd to be armed. One defendant, Guy Reffitt, said in a video played at trial that from the front of the crowd, he could see eight firearms carried by five people. Reffitt, a Texas man who was the first Jan. 6 defendant to be convicted at trial, received a sentence of more than seven years for five felonies that included carrying a firearm to a riot — the stiffest punishment in the Capitol attack investigation so far.
In the case against Bargar, D.C. police officers found the gun on the ground amid rioters at about 2:30 p.m., according to an FBI agent’s affidavit, but did not know to whom it belonged. The pistol was in a distinctive holster depicting the American flag and the words “We the People.” There was one cartridge in the chamber and 15 in the magazine.
Bargar was first identified through an anonymous tip and interviewed by the FBI on Jan. 18, 2021, according to the court record. He said he came to D.C. with a friend but did not enter the Capitol or do anything illegal in the “chaos” because he knew where the “line” was, according to the affidavit.
At the time, the agents did not know Bargar had brought a gun. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives subsequently found that the gun had been owned by an individual who pawned it in Missouri, where it was bought by Bargar’s stepfather. In a subsequent interview, according to the affidavit, Bargar said he lost the gun when trying to help a woman who had been knocked to the ground. Bargar added that he wanted to be armed when he went to the “belly of the beast” for his own “self-protection.”
D.C. law bars concealed carrying of firearms without a permit and open carrying; no guns are allowed on the Capitol grounds. Bargar told the FBI he was unaware of those laws at the time of the riot.
A public defender who represented Bargar at his initial appearance declined to comment.
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I think a lot of judges are going to go with "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" during these trials.
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The booth is a mockup of a prison cell. Guests are handed headsets that play testimony of 1/6 insurrectionists and you're supposed to listen to that while a "prisoner" inside the cell, wearing an orange jumpsuit and a MAGA hat, quietly weeps to himself. On the chalkboard behind him are the words "Where is everyone?"
Persecution complex hewn into physical form. Oh these poor domestic terrorists! My heart bleeds purple piss for them! They're actually the victims, and this was all just a peaceful sightseeing tour that went wrong, orchestrated by ray epps and the deep state tyrannical left!
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