International Canadian Liberals confusingly scrap carbon tax they created

As a Canadian, I just feel like it's kind of nice to see that we're getting over this race to the fringes, where left and right play chicken with the voters walking as close to the edge of crazy as they can manage while staring us all down as if to say, "well, sure I'm crazy, but my crazy is better than their crazy, so what choice do you have?"

It's finally starting to look much more like the race to the middle that a healthy democracy should be. I'm fine with the Liberals co-opting more popular conservative coded policies and talking points. The ball is now in the Conservatives' court. Plenty of more popular liberal coded policies and talking points that they are free to co-opt if they want to.

Just imagine if the Democrats in the US had the balls to do the simplest little things, like bringing back plastic straws or releasing the JFK files. Talk about low hanging fruit. Or if the Republicans had the balls to just call out and condemn the literal Dixie flag waving racists among them.

If we're past the point of politics being all about proving you're an edge-lord, I'm down with it.
 
HereticBD said:
Eh', it's a snap election. They can't really "rush" anything that wasn't already in the cards, and it's what conservatives have wanted for years. They're all playing by the same rules. He'll face as much scrutiny as his opponent. Both main candidates have the same "unknown" aura about them. It's good that he's calling the election in short order, instead of dragging it out until October(or beyond, which I think Carney could actually do).

It's not like Carney will get hammered in a debate and say "Okay, election is tomorrow!" A date will be set, and they'll have that time to make their case.
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I definitely think the less time until the election benefits Carney more then it does Pierre. The more of Carney the people see , the more hell get exposed.
 
fedoriswar37 said:
I definitely think the less time until the election benefits Carney more then it does Pierre. The more of Carney the people see , the more hell get exposed.
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It is what it is. Do you want Carney to extend the process by a year, and desperately cling to power? I certainly don't. Conservatives wanted Trudeau to step down. He did. Can't complain about his replacement, because he's been given a boost from being a fresh face and the US targeting us with tariffs. If all PP had was insulting Trudeau, and can't muster up a campaign against this guy, so be it. He's gotta adapt, much like Carney had to. It's not exactly a plus for him either, going into an election with that Trudeau stank on him.

Polls have tightened into a virtual tie, but we'll see what happens.
 
jeremyemilio said:
As a Canadian, I just feel like it's kind of nice to see that we're getting over this race to the fringes, where left and right play chicken with the voters walking as close to the edge of crazy as they can manage while staring us all down as if to say, "well, sure I'm crazy, but my crazy is better than their crazy, so what choice do you have?"

It's finally starting to look much more like the race to the middle that a healthy democracy should be. I'm fine with the Liberals co-opting more popular conservative coded policies and talking points. The ball is now in the Conservatives' court. Plenty of more popular liberal coded policies and talking points that they are free to co-opt if they want to.

Just imagine if the Democrats in the US had the balls to do the simplest little things, like bringing back plastic straws or releasing the JFK files. Talk about low hanging fruit. Or if the Republicans had the balls to just call out and condemn the literal Dixie flag waving racists among them.

If we're past the point of politics being all about proving you're an edge-lord, I'm down with it.
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Very good point. The little stuff actually matters to the people voting. Enough of the talking points and suggest some real policy that effects everyday people. I have yet to see Carney do that.
 
HereticBD said:
It is what it is. Do you want Carney to extend the process by a year, and desperately cling to power? I certainly don't. Conservatives wanted Trudeau to step down. He did. Can't complain about his replacement, because he's been given a boost from being a fresh face and the US targeting us with tariffs. If all PP had was insulting Trudeau, and can't muster up a campaign against this guy, so be it. He's gotta adapt, much like Carney had to. It's not exactly a plus for him either, going into an election with that Trudeau stank on him.

Polls have tightened into a virtual tie, but we'll see what happens.
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One things forsure , if he wins it is what it is. It's a democracy. All I can really continue to do is encourage people to vote differently next time.

And to be clear I'm not against an early election. I'm not opposed to Trudeau stepping down and having one. It's been wanted for how long now.
 
fedoriswar37 said:
And to be clear I'm not against an early election. I'm not opposed to Trudeau stepping down and having one. It's been wanted for how long now.
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In fairness, he stepped down before any of this US/Canada shit started, that naturally gave the party in power a boost. We can only hope that Canadians won't forget the damage that the Liberal party has done over the last 9 years.
 
fedoriswar37 said:
One things forsure , if he wins it is what it is. It's a democracy. All I can really continue to do is encourage people to vote differently next time.

And to be clear I'm not against an early election. I'm not opposed to Trudeau stepping down and having one. It's been wanted for how long now.
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I want to apologize for being so antagonistic about this. I know we have deep ideological differences and will likely never see eye to eye, but I do believe you that you want what is best for Canada and your fellow Canadians.

I do too, whether you believe that or not.

So, no, I will not make an account bet about this election with you, but I do sincerely wish that things in Canadian politics could be more civil and less partisan. I feel like we probably have more in common than differences. I hate Trudeau almost as much as you do. I just hate Poilievre more.

I can't promise I won't be an obnoxious soyboy libtard in the future, because TBH that's kinda my thing.

But I'm over provoking my fellow Canadians for fun. Like I have said many times, this isn't a game, but I realize now that I've been treating it like one.

Take care, Sherbro.
 
jeremyemilio said:
As a Canadian, I just feel like it's kind of nice to see that we're getting over this race to the fringes, where left and right play chicken with the voters walking as close to the edge of crazy as they can manage while staring us all down as if to say, "well, sure I'm crazy, but my crazy is better than their crazy, so what choice do you have?"

It's finally starting to look much more like the race to the middle that a healthy democracy should be. I'm fine with the Liberals co-opting more popular conservative coded policies and talking points. The ball is now in the Conservatives' court. Plenty of more popular liberal coded policies and talking points that they are free to co-opt if they want to.

Just imagine if the Democrats in the US had the balls to do the simplest little things, like bringing back plastic straws or releasing the JFK files. Talk about low hanging fruit. Or if the Republicans had the balls to just call out and condemn the literal Dixie flag waving racists among them.

If we're past the point of politics being all about proving you're an edge-lord, I'm down with it.
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This post is great and it literally changed my attitude towards this thread. Thanks, Sherbro. I was stuck in a feedback loop of partisan bullshit and this snapped me out of it a bit.
 
HereticBD said:
Polls have tightened into a virtual tie, but we'll see what happens.
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Ok I'm really not trying to be antagonistic because I'm trying to turn over a new leaf, but this statement simply isn't true.

The polls currently show a 91% chance of a Liberal win and a 65% chance of a majority.

It's so unprecedented that I can barely believe it myself, but that's what they are saying today. It's possible that Poilievre might make a miraculous comeback, but that just doesn't seem likely. He has not responded to the new landscape very well and it looks like he might be incapable of righting the ship.

If the shitty Liberals do win another majority, I hope the CPC has the good sense to replace PP with someone more reasonable and more competent.

Politics in Canada have become to toxic and divisive, a career politician attack dog like Poilievre is the absolute worst choice to lead the country.

I don't particularly like Carney. He's a banker and a very wealthy man, and I don't really trust him. But I do think he's a hell of a lot better equipped to deal with this unprecedented situation we find ourselves in.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
Well like I said there's no platforms from anyone released yet. So we don't know scope but Carney and PP are going to have to overlap a lot. But Poilievre has been in Federal goverment for 21 years, was a long standing PS, was in a cabinet position and shadow minister for last few years and he's only 45. So he's actually pretty qualified and has accomplished a lot from a young start. (unless only bankers and economists are qualified).
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He's never even passed a bill wtf are you talking about all the dude does is yap
 
Ares Black said:
Ok I'm really not trying to be antagonistic because I'm trying to turn over a new leaf, but this statement simply isn't true.

The polls currently show a 91% chance of a Liberal win and a 65% chance of a majority.

It's so unprecedented that I can barely believe it myself, but that's what they are saying today. It's possible that Poilievre might make a miraculous comeback, but that just doesn't seem likely. He has not responded to the new landscape very well and it looks like he might be incapable of righting the ship.

If the shitty Liberals do win another majority, I hope the CPC has the good sense to replace PP with someone more reasonable and more competent.

Politics in Canada have become to toxic and divisive, a career politician attack dog like Poilievre is the absolute worst choice to lead the country.

I don't particularly like Carney. He's a banker and a very wealthy man, and I don't really trust him. But I do think he's a hell of a lot better equipped to deal with this unprecedented situation we find ourselves in.
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PP is such a dweeb I really hope they find someone less off putting
 
no fat chicks said:
He's never even passed a bill wtf are you talking about all the dude does is yap
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His pass rate to sponsership is 2.25% and a 55% sponsorship rate per term in office. Who in Canadian politics (that's not a PM) is higher by a statically relevant margin?; especially with 3 of his 5 governments were minority based

It's also worth noting Carneys first 3 moves are all line items that PP pushed for and put forth - carbon tax cut (Carney didn't actually get rid of it) reduce cabinet ministers and cut GST on home builds on homes that cost 1 million and under (liberals and bq voted against that in December)
 
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JFC is the Premier of my province dumb or what?

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Talk about saying the quiet part loud. Fucking absolute moron.
 
They're axing it so Canadians will vote them back in, and then turn around and reinstate it.
 
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