International Canadian Liberals confusingly scrap carbon tax they created

[Deleted member 592570]

Is Danielle Smith more conservative than Doug Ford?

Is there a point at the end of this? As I already said, being the 'most conservative' premier in Canada doesn't mean anything.

The most conservative premier in Canada is to the left of the Democrats in the US.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

No no...you being so knowledgeable on canadian government and politics, list off the federal programs that carney would cut to offset the cost of tax cuts?

Maybe he won’t cut anything and the deficit will just continue to balloon.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Maybe he won’t cut anything and the deficit will just continue to balloon.

Well he's gone on record that he's going to cut federal workforce...which is a pro move.

But the last liberal leadership imploded when they literally threw the blown up budget at Freeland and then dick tucked defending it in parliament. Literally how it went.

So unless Carney ...and Pollievre since they both are starting their campaign tours by touting tax cuts on every level, are going to straight up say they are going to blow up the deficit.. they need to start naming programs that are going to get cut

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Well he's gone on record that he's going to cut federal workforce...which is a pro move.

But the last liberal leadership imploded when they literally threw the blown up budget at Freeland and then dick tucked defending it in parliament. Literally how it went.

So unless Carney ...and Pollievre since they both are starting their campaign tours by touting tax cuts on every level, are going to straight up say they are going to blow up the deficit.. they need to start naming programs that are going to get cut

Maybe, though for what it’s worth I kind of have to agree with Ares here in that I don’t really see them cutting the DC and PC programs, for no other reason than the fact that they were kind of “signature legislation” of the most recent government, even if they were mostly an NDP initiative. Maybe I’m wrong but I just can’t see them eliminating them so soon after introducing it. I think there would be a lot of incumbent liberal MPs who would feel uncomfortable voting to eliminate it so soon after voting to pass it.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Maybe, though for what it’s worth I kind of have to agree with Ares here in that I don’t really see them cutting the DC and PC programs, for no other reason than the fact that they were kind of “signature legislation” of the most recent government, even if they were mostly an NDP initiative. Maybe I’m wrong but I just can’t see them eliminating them so soon after introducing it. I think there would be a lot of incumbent liberal MPs who would feel uncomfortable voting to eliminate it so soon after voting to pass it.

I mean they voted to implement carbon tax as a sig legislation and then they eliminated it (quasi); they voted not to cut taxes on new home builds (million and under - December 2024) and the they pushed that policy now. But its not about DC or PC specifically...its the fact they are very minimally rolled out, non universal, about 70% of Canadians dont qualify and easily scaled back or offset to provincial jurisdiction -- so they seem like the most perfect targets to repeal or at the least, replaced.

But I'll ask you....the cuts are projected to lose 5 - 20 billionish in revenue (depending on if one or all if his cuts are implemented) So where do they make up the difference in regards to which programs to cut?

 

[gatchaman]

Is there a point at the end of this? As I already said, being the 'most conservative' premier in Canada doesn't mean anything.

The most conservative premier in Canada is to the left of the Democrats in the US.

The point is, you don't know enough about the politicians you are judging to make the claims you are making.
Is Gavin Newsom more conservative than Danielle Smith?

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

How exactly ? by being conservative ? has it ever occurred to you that Trudeau government failed in many similar ways that the Biden administration so of course they are going to be talking about similar things. People are concerned about the same issues wherever you go.

Pierre has never advocated for any of the antagonistic bullshit that Trump has put forth and has denied any link multiple times and has never given an endorsement. So please give me a detailed answer on how exactly he is linked to MAGA ?

Carney’s platform has mentioned “reining in wasteful and ineffective government spending.”

Sounds pretty MAGA like

 

[Bojka]

Is there a point at the end of this? As I already said, being the 'most conservative' premier in Canada doesn't mean anything.

The most conservative premier in Canada is to the left of the Democrats in the US.

Danielle Smith is not to the left of the democrats.

 

[jlagman]

Carney’s platform has mentioned “reining in wasteful and ineffective government spending.”

Sounds pretty MAGA like

Or how about televising the signing of the OIC "scrapping" the Carbon Tax, first day in office? Right out of the Trump playbook.

 

[Ares Black]

Conservative man discovers secret trick to getting elected PM: running as Liberal

(Political) Scientists hate him for discovering a new way to be a Conservative PM in Canada! And he can show you how to do it too! It’s the second episode of the relaunched Beaverton Weekly Report. The writ has dropped, and it hit Pierre Poilievre directly on the head. Luke and the Panel (Megan...

thebeaverton.com

 

[jimjamjammer]

Carney’s platform has mentioned “reining in wasteful and ineffective government spending.”

Sounds pretty MAGA like

Ironic considering it was the same government he took over that was being wasteful and ineffective.

 

[rikibobby]

Conservative man discovers secret trick to getting elected PM: running as Liberal

(Political) Scientists hate him for discovering a new way to be a Conservative PM in Canada! And he can show you how to do it too! It’s the second episode of the relaunched Beaverton Weekly Report. The writ has dropped, and it hit Pierre Poilievre directly on the head. Luke and the Panel (Megan...

thebeaverton.com

It should say "plagiarize the conservative platform and run as a Liberal" instead to be more accurate, but it is the beaverton.

Hell I'd vote for Carney if I thought he'd keep any of the conservative platforms he's stolen and didn't carry-on the divisive course of demonizing Alberta.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

It should say "plagiarize the conservative platform" instead.

Hell I'd vote for Carney if I thought he'd keep any of the conservative platforms he's stolen and didn't carry-on the divisive course of demonizing Alberta.

I really prefer my riding MP who is conservative but I'm board with Carney thus far. I legitimately think he's a strong fiscal conservative that absolutely going to be pro spending and tax cuts and great for FDI. Especially since American firms may be looking to relocate if the US doesn't stabilize -- a Carney government would be very welcoming with sweetheart deals and incentives to bring America corporations over.

But beyond all of that, he's straight up decimating progressives influence and completely neutering the NDP at the federal level. If polls and modeling turn out to be correct, we will have a parliament where NDP get next to no time to debate in the HoC. It would be glorious not to have to acknowledge their leftist platforms demands.

 

[Lycandroid]

I really prefer my riding MP who is conservative but I'm board with Carney thus far. I legitimately think he's a strong fiscal conservative that absolutely going to be pro spending and tax cuts and great for FDI. Especially since American firms may be looking to relocate if the US doesn't stabilize -- a Carney government would be very welcoming with sweetheart deals and incentives to bring America corporations over.

Why would you think that ? What has he shown in any of his positions where he is capable or interested in any of those ? Both sides of the aisle in the UK have nothing good to say about his time as the governor of the bank of England.

He was the economic advisor during the least fiscally conservative era in Canadian history. He couldn't possibly be more of the opposite of what you think he is.

 

[rikibobby]

I really prefer my riding MP who is conservative but I'm board with Carney thus far. I legitimately think he's a strong fiscal conservative that absolutely going to be pro spending and tax cuts and great for FDI. Especially since American firms may be looking to relocate if the US doesn't stabilize -- a Carney government would be very welcoming with sweetheart deals and incentives to bring America corporations over.

But beyond all of that, he's straight up decimating progressives influence and completely neutering the NDP at the federal level. If polls and modeling turn out to be correct, we will have a parliament where NDP get next to no time to debate in the HoC. It would be glorious not to have to acknowledge their leftist platforms demands.

I see the conservatives doing the exact same thing economy-wise and attracting business while eliminating self-harming regulations and carbon prices that have left us this vulnerable to an event like this.

Also, I am not a fan of divisive rhetoric, liberal's bullshit stance on law abiding gun owners and the current state of the criminal punishment system.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Why would you think that ? What has he shown in any of his positions where he is capable or interested in any of those ? Both sides of the aisle in the UK have nothing good to say about his time as the governor of the bank of England.

He was the economic advisor during the least fiscally conservative era in Canadian history. He couldn't possibly be more of the opposite of what you think he is.

His first two acts were cut cabinet size and end consumer carbon levy. He's campaigning on end the 2/3 taxation on cap gains. He's ending taxation on on gst on new home builds. Campaigning on income tax cuts and actively talking about cutting the size of federal workforce and programs. Also increasing FDI and private investments

There's zero talk about any bs downward transfers to enhance the dreg classes. Zero talk of ending mining or oil production - and hopefully he's amendable to exporting more REE and resources.

He was also the head of a major private investment firm which focus was profit and returns.

And yes, his polling shows that he's crippling the NDP federally.


I already stated I'm voting Conservative due to my preference for MP. But I'm not worried about a carney majority

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I see the conservatives doing the exact same thing economy-wise and attracting business while eliminating self-harming regulations and carbon prices that have left us this vulnerable to an event like this.

Yeah but conservatives aren't going to win if this modeling holds up. I'll take a fiascially conservative liberal pm who keep cabinet to a minimum and the decimated NDP as a consultation prize.

Also, I am not a fan of divisive rhetoric, liberal's bullshit stance on law abiding gun owners and the current state of the criminal punishment system.

Ending the gun buy back and reestablishing restricted sales are both low hanging fruit. You save 100 million on one and you gain tax revenue on the other. He's not trudy...he seems more focused on cost saving and private revenue generation

 

[rikibobby]

His first two acts were cut cabinet size and end consumer carbon levy. He's campaigning on end the 2/3 taxation on cap gains. He's ending taxation on on gst on new home builds. Campaigning on income tax cuts and actively talking about cutting the size of federal workforce and programs. Also increasing FDI and private investments

There's zero talk about any bs downward transfers to enhance the dreg classes. Zero talk of ending mining or oil production - and hopefully he's amendable to exporting more REE and resources.

He was also the head of a major private investment firm which focus was profit and returns.

And yes, his polling shows that he's crippling the NDP federally.


I already stated I'm voting Conservative due to my preference for MP. But I'm not worried about a carney majority

Although he hasn't talked about ending oil production or mining, he has said there needs to be hard caps on production to meet net zero. I haven't heard his stance on the ring of fire, but have heard Pierre's 1st hand. PP is going to fast track the highway approval and put $1 billion towards it. Carney must release the hounds on all of our resources and put the environmental shit on the back-burner for mow if he gets in. I suspect he is honey-dicking the boomer conservatives back over to liberals and is full-on shit.

The environmental shit is so pointless when the states, China and India could care less. It is beyond economic suicide considering we have almost 0 effect.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Although he hasn't talked about ending oil production or mining, he has said there needs to be hard caps on production to meet net zero. I haven't heard his stance on the ring of fire, but have heard Pierre's 1st hand. PP is going to fast track the highway approval and put $1 billion towards it. Carney must release the hounds on all of our resources and put the environmental shit on the back-burner for mow if he gets in. I suspect he is honey-dicking the boomer conservatives back over to liberals and is full-on shit.

The environmental shit is so pointless when the states, China and India could care less. It is beyond economic suicide considering we have almost 0 effect.

Yeah I agree. Green initiative may be imprinted on his core drive; but as he is cut taxes and cut spending focused he will have no choice to to be amendable to exporting and expanding. Canada isn't a manufacturing or R&D powerhouse -- it's a natural resource distributor. He's going to have to turn on the taps hard to make up the revenue gaps.

But again, his candidacy has neutered the progressives so he won't have that orange soy coalition in his ear.

 

[Lycandroid]

His first two acts were cut cabinet size and end consumer carbon levy. He's campaigning on end the 2/3 taxation on cap gains. He's ending taxation on on gst on new home builds. Campaigning on income tax cuts and actively talking about cutting the size of federal workforce and programs. Also increasing FDI and private investments

There's zero talk about any bs downward transfers to enhance the dreg classes. Zero talk of ending mining or oil production - and hopefully he's amendable to exporting more REE and resources.

He was also the head of a major private investment firm which focus was profit and returns.

Ending the consumer carbon tax while INCREASING the industrial Carbon tax will have the same effect on cost of living that made it unpopular in the first place, most likely it will have a greater effect. Prices will increase as companies pass that onto the consumer. When it comes to copying conservatives policies I think it's a fools game to really think they will go in that direction once elected. The Liberal party has a terrible track record on keeping election promises.

He was the head of a major private investment firm which focus was profit and returns which worked directly against Canadian interests. Brookfield is a scourge on humanity just like Blackrock. Brookfield is a huge player in the skyrocketing cost of housing in Canada.

Carney is not a fiscal conservative, he is a globalist parasite and a traitor to his country.