International Canadian Election Results Start to Come Through: 'The 51st State' Edition

There are only two countries on the face of the earth that did not receive reduced tariffs, Canada and China and that is because of retaliatory tariffs and refusal to come to the table.

Canada fucked itself with retaliatory tariffs that do fuck all to the American economy while having a bigger impact on our economy, even if in theory they were put forth to have maximum impact on the us and minimal impact on Canada. These tariffs hurt us much more than they did the US our trade with them his a massively larger percentage of our economy.

The first round of tariffs were introduced and would have been removed if we made commitments to strengthen our border, which we instead denied was even an issue. Look into Sam Coopers report on this for further clarification if you can I would highly suggest it.

We could have taken the same approach as Mexico, UK or Australia for example and saved ourselves much economic pain, but if we did that the Liberals would lose the standing up to to Trump narrative which without that they would have lost the election in a landslide defeat as they were projected to so do before this tariff situation occurred.

With regard to previous conservative governments, nearly all governments in Canada have had deficits, we had a streak of 27 of governments with deficits, the key differences are the scale and impact of these deficits. What is the money being spent on and is it spurring growth in the economy or hindering it ?

The Harper government had decent economic growth, while slower than the previous Liberal government it was still pretty good when you consider the financial crisis at the time and how most governments around the world did not experience the same levels of growth.

Over the last decade under the liberal deficits we have seen very little growth, the worst on record and when you have that for a decade that is very very bad, now you have a government who will double down on the same policies of reckless spending and stifling growth at every turn, except much more aggressively.
The Canadian economy grew by over 2% in Q4 2024, just before the Trump tarriffs. The economy had finally fully recovered from the pandemic. Trudeau's contribution to the rate of recovery is impossible to judge. I'm not surprised you want to lay it entirely at his feet, but you have no fucking clue any more than I do.


"The Harper government had decent economic growth, while slower than the previous Liberal government it was still pretty good when you consider the financial crisis at the time and how most governments around the world did not experience the same levels of growth."

So, you are a total troll who has no actual belief in anything you're saying, is that right? Otherwise, how can you post this and not give the same benefit of the doubt to Trudeau over the course of the pandemic?

Clown.
 
So PP must have committed to attending the ufc in Montreal last night. He probably saw his guy trump getting ovations and thought he’d be pm. Little did he know he couldn’t even win his riding. Still isn’t trying tk shake that trump style.
 
I mean that's just not even close to being the correct cause of the drug and crime problem in Edmonton. Homeless addicts and street people drive the drug trade, not rig workers coming into town to blow off steam every couple of weeks.
Except, that doesn't make any sense.

Toronto has the most homeless people, both in total and per capita, and their crime rate and violent crime rate are much lower than Edmonton's.

Calgary and Vancouver have more homeless as well, much lower crime rates.

The poster you're responding to is making a valid point. Nobody is saying the rig pigs are committing the crime. Just that a bunch of young guys with cash leads to them spending said cash on drink, drugs and woman, which in turn brings an organized crime element into the city.

Also, let's be honest, Edmonton is just a horrific place to live. Cold, ugly and nothing to do. People tend to get into trouble in those conditions.

And, the woman are ugly. Sorry, had to be said.
 
So PP must have committed to attending the ufc in Montreal last night. He probably saw his guy trump getting ovations and thought he’d be pm. Little did he know he couldn’t even win his riding. Still isn’t trying tk shake that trump style.

Well there is no Trump style. That's a Lib fantasy. Second he can go, unlike Trudeau and not get booed out the building. Plus it's good publicity all around. What is wrong with that?
 
The Canadian economy grew by over 2% in Q4 2024, just before the Trump tarriffs. The economy had finally fully recovered from the pandemic. Trudeau's contribution to the rate of recovery is impossible to judge. I'm not surprised you want to lay it entirely at his feet, but you have no fucking clue any more than I do.


"The Harper government had decent economic growth, while slower than the previous Liberal government it was still pretty good when you consider the financial crisis at the time and how most governments around the world did not experience the same levels of growth."

So, you are a total troll who has no actual belief in anything you're saying, is that right? Otherwise, how can you post this and not give the same benefit of the doubt to Trudeau over the course of the pandemic?

Clown.
Holy shit, was retardation available as elective where you went to school ?

1) Even if I accept the false premise that contributing factors in both scenarios are outside the control of the government there is no denying that Canada very well compared to other countries during the 08 crisis while Canada completely shit the bed during covid

2) Both crisis were a span of a few years, only Trudeau has slow economic growth on his record for his entire tenure. If you pretend both events never happened and omit them Trudeau is a completely different universe of failure.

3) The financial crisis of 08 was something outside their control that the Harper government was able to manage through their fiscal policy. The covid crisis was something the government inflicted upon itself, whether it was malicious intent or incompetence is not clear.

4) Governments like to deflect blame for inflation during covid by saying it was a global issue. It doesn't mean it isn't your fault when you all enact the same policies that inflate the money supply and take on massive debt. How stupid do you have to be to think its not the governments fault because it was a coordinated effort between countries to do the same thing.... If I went to sleep after chugging 4 liters of water with a group of people who did the same, I can't claim its not my fault I pissed because they did too.

5) How many policies did Harper introduce to intentionally limit growth ? The list of Trudeau's nonsensical environmental policies that stifled the growth of this country is massive. For what ? We haven't come close to meeting a single one of these reduction targets.
 
So PP must have committed to attending the ufc in Montreal last night. He probably saw his guy trump getting ovations and thought he’d be pm. Little did he know he couldn’t even win his riding. Still isn’t trying tk shake that trump style.
Your brain couldn't be more broken, if watching the UFC makes you a Trumper that means there were 20,000 Trumpers in the building last night, you are a trumper if you watched the event.

It's fairly obvious he just went because it's a must see event in Montreal last night.

Did he get a shout out from the broadcast like Trump does or any celeb does ? No he didn't. He was just a guy watching the show.

Tell me who is the one who at his first meeting with Trump, totally kissed the ring and went ass up instead of elbows up ??
 
Except, that doesn't make any sense.

Toronto has the most homeless people, both in total and per capita, and their crime rate and violent crime rate are much lower than Edmonton's.

Calgary and Vancouver have more homeless as well, much lower crime rates.

The poster you're responding to is making a valid point. Nobody is saying the rig pigs are committing the crime. Just that a bunch of young guys with cash leads to them spending said cash on drink, drugs and woman, which in turn brings an organized crime element into the city.

Also, let's be honest, Edmonton is just a horrific place to live. Cold, ugly and nothing to do. People tend to get into trouble in those conditions.

And, the woman are ugly. Sorry, had to be said.

It's a novel way to blame productive working white guys for ethnic crime, I'll give you that.
 
Also, let's be honest, Edmonton is just a horrific place to live. Cold, ugly and nothing to do. People tend to get into trouble in those conditions.

And, the woman are ugly. Sorry, had to be said.
Winnipeg has the same problems. Just a miserable place to live. It's basically Russia with human rights.
 
I'm done bashing Edmonton. It's my new home, and I love it here.

Filmed in Leduc Alberta, home of Edmonton's airport.
 
I mean that's just not even close to being the correct cause of the drug and crime problem in Edmonton. Homeless addicts and street people drive the drug trade, not rig workers coming into town to blow off steam every couple of weeks.
Lol the homeless do NOT drive the drug trade, that's laughable. You think dial a dope gangsters in Edmonton drive around and make all this money off the unwashed bums passed out on the street?? That's the bottom of the barrel, the homeless are living off the scraps of higher ups. Most of dealers clients have jobs, they're buying shit like coke and crack and designer drugs. No offense but you sound super naive of how gangs and organized crime works, and of drug use culture among the young thrill seeking party crowd and among just working class dudes who are bored and do drugs. Like maybe you've never been around these people at all and your getting talking points from the internet. Back in the day there was a lot less homeless addicts but it was still dangerous and on and off the murder capital of Canada.
 
Lol the homeless do NOT drive the drug trade, that's laughable. You think dial a dope gangsters in Edmonton drive around and make all this money off the unwashed bums passed out on the street?? That's the bottom of the barrel, the homeless are living off the scraps of higher ups. Most of dealers clients have jobs, they're buying shit like coke and crack and designer drugs. No offense but you sound super naive of how gangs and organized crime works, and of drug use culture among the young thrill seeking party crowd and among just working class dudes who are bored and do drugs. Like maybe you've never been around these people at all and your getting talking points from the internet. Back in the day there was a lot less homeless addicts but it was still dangerous and on and off the murder capital of Canada.

Actually you do.

It's the hopelessly addicted who drive the drug trade. Not working guys doing a little blow on the weekend.
 
Actually you do.

It's the hopelessly addicted who drive the drug trade. Not working guys doing a little blow on the weekend.

Imagine thinking all these drug dealers driving 80k SUVs and living in mcmansions got them from selling fent to native bums downtown... Okay.

You don't get the economics of it I guess. The homeless don't have enough money to drive such levels of gang activity. It's not rocket science bud. Why do you think Americans are such an important market for cartels and shit? Because they're all poor and homeless lol?
 
Actually you do.

It's the hopelessly addicted who drive the drug trade. Not working guys doing a little blow on the weekend.
Nah. The "hopelessly addicted" usually have money to keep their habit up. It's a lot of middle/lower class folks, and a lot of whales in the upper class that have immense amounts of disposable income. Now, the homeless addicts certainly do drive up crime rates, because that's the only way they can make money to pay for it, but it's like any other business. You want a steady customer base, that has a steady income. You don't want your bottom line being controlled by a bunch of homeless tweakers robbing convenience stores, and ripping off old ladies here and there.
 
you guys forget how much the hopelessly addicted are themselves the lowest level footsoldiers of the drug trade, they are addicted, just because they are broke bums doesn't mean they aren't a huge customer base, they entire life depends on buying more drugs.

The rig pigs are for sure a huge factor but they aren't the driving force of the drug trade.
 
you guys forget how much the hopelessly addicted are themselves the lowest level footsoldiers of the drug trade, they are addicted, just because they are broke bums doesn't mean they aren't a huge customer base, they entire life depends on buying more drugs.

The rig pigs are for sure a huge factor but they aren't the driving force of the drug trade.
There is more money to be made selling drugs to functional addicts and with much less hassle. They don't have phones and are mentally ill and drunk on Lysol and mouthwash all day. You can't front them, they'll rob you or get you busted. Dealers are looking to build phones with reliable consistent clients.
 
you guys forget how much the hopelessly addicted are themselves the lowest level footsoldiers of the drug trade, they are addicted, just because they are broke bums doesn't mean they aren't a huge customer base, they entire life depends on buying more drugs.

The rig pigs are for sure a huge factor but they aren't the driving force of the drug trade.

Yeah it's crazy to see a bunch of people actually believe that stuff. Must be some Vice documentary making those claims or something.

The addicts are buying drugs all day every day. They're given money by the government every month and they go spend it all on drugs. Then when that runs out, they start breaking into houses and robbing stores.

I knew a dealer back in high school and every time you went to his house he was trying to give you a bunch of frozen steaks because his multiple freezers were overflowing from all the steak the junkies would steal at safeway and trade to him for drugs.

And every junkie chick is sucking dick and fucking for drugs too. Every single one. I had a junkie chick offer to blow me for $5 once. $5.

Unless you've actually lived the life, you just don't know how bad it is.
 
Your brain couldn't be more broken, if watching the UFC makes you a Trumper that means there were 20,000 Trumpers in the building last night, you are a trumper if you watched the event.

It's fairly obvious he just went because it's a must see event in Montreal last night.

Did he get a shout out from the broadcast like Trump does or any celeb does ? No he didn't. He was just a guy watching the show.

Tell me who is the one who at his first meeting with Trump, totally kissed the ring and went ass up instead of elbows up ??
Nope. He committed thinking he was gonna be the new pm and thought he’d get a shout out from the fans. Very trumpesque. Instead he got a hand full of people clapping for him. There is a reason he lost his riding.
 
Well, my confidence in Carney took a major hit today. Sean Fraser as a minister of anything is a gigantic fuck-up. Completely fucked up immigration and housing.

Also, the new housing minister is the former mayor of Vancouver? The shittiest housing city in the world? Great call Carney.
 
Enjoy your new leadership. You voted for it!
 
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