please go to a class get caught in a triangle try and slam someone and hopefully someone chokes you out. strength and athleticism isn't a skill it is ability. its not that i don't like you, I just don't like people like you that think their athletic ability makes them right for bjj. If you want to slam go do some greco or freestyle and supleux someone, don't join a bjj club.
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I guess if it makes the sub worse it's the person's fault who tried the slam.
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But you forgot to mention how you have never trained before. Trying to win by knocking out your opponent completely goes against what BJJ is. The guys here are allot more tolerant that any other section of sherdog, they just get tired of 100th Can u SLAMZ like PAGE in Jits? posts.
the analogy is that you are striking your opponent with the ground instead of your fists so why not just allow strikes...understand now?
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Much of that is my plan. I will go to a BJJ class, and I will likely get caught in triangles, rnc's, armbars, fucking gogos etc. I will not however try to fucking slam somebody in class, I'm not a jerk. Anyway, I'm not arrogant enough to think that I could waltz into a BJJ class and start slamming fools - I KNOW I'M GOING TO BE GETTING MOPPED FOR AWHILE-. The same way I have never tried to decapitate somebody while sparring. However, I think that kind of goes out the window in competition.
I do disagree about slamming not being a skill though.
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ok, I guess that makes sense. I still think it's an entirely different animal than punching though.
Also, I guess I understand how this would be frustrating if it comes up all the time. However, if anyone cares to look at my other posts they would see that I come on here to learn, not stir shit up.
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I didn't "forget" to mention that I have never trained. I have, just not BJJ. Hopefully that will soon change.
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Well, time to punch the clock and get home. I'll check back later for more responses. I do appreciate the feedback though, just go easy on a noob.
If I tried to look at everyone's posting record on here before I read and responded to what the wrote...well I wouldn't get to read anything on here. and you can do more damage to a person with a slam then you can with a punch, its just lucky for us that matts have some give and people don't land on their head that often. I've seen one of my best friends in junior high get slammed and his neck partially broken..he was in a neck brace for almost a year and still has problems with it almost a decade later.
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bottom line is slamming=striking, you can't lay in side control and lift the person's head up and slam it against the mat... it's the same thing. slamming is not a skill, anyone can do it, you only really see it in the white belt division, because by blue belt people will get the right angle on the triangle to break the persons posture and hook the leg if the guy tries to lift them.
Of course, maybe white belts are just THAT much more skillfull than the higher belts.
Of course, maybe white belts are just THAT much more skillfull than the higher belts.
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Slamming from guard or to defend subs is insta-DQ in all competitions besides ADCC I believe.
As long as you don't spike people slamming from a takedown is allowed.
( You can't lift people up from the floor and then slam them though. )
Slamming can seriously fuck up your neck when done from guard. They don't even do it in judo which has lots of spike throws.
As long as you don't spike people slamming from a takedown is allowed.
( You can't lift people up from the floor and then slam them though. )
Slamming can seriously fuck up your neck when done from guard. They don't even do it in judo which has lots of spike throws.
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basically if you pick someone off the ground, you are responsible for safely delivering him back to the mat, or it's a DQ... so if you go to do a standing guard pass, you better make sure you don't break the guard and let them just fall on their ass... break and slide them down.
I think it should be that way in a takedown as well... if you pick up an opponent in any way you should be responsible for his safety, granted its tough to enforce with some throws you see, but with a double leg or body lock it should be easy enough to enforce.
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you seem to be the one being a douche, the dude was just genuinely curious.
let me guess you read the first response and nothing else? 1. this topic comes up every week so I thought he was a troll 2. see number 1... 3. I do actually believe anyone who intentionally wants to slam someone is a douche.
dude that's an awesome name...can I steal that or do you have it copyrighted?
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From the International Brazilian Jiujitsu Federation's website (http://www.ibjjf.org/rules.htm)
Article 6 - Restrictions
Slams from the guard
It is listed under all ages and ranks. Being caught in a triangle is considered "in the guard" as you have not PASSED the guard.
That's all it took fellas. Close this thread.
Article 6 - Restrictions
Slams from the guard
It is listed under all ages and ranks. Being caught in a triangle is considered "in the guard" as you have not PASSED the guard.
That's all it took fellas. Close this thread.
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Dont worry about these guys V Ornatus, most people here are pretentious wannabes who have trained a couple of months and think they are better than everyone because they are on the internet.
Slamming is illegal when you pick someone up off the ground and intend to hurt them but I good takedowns are ok.
Slamming is illegal when you pick someone up off the ground and intend to hurt them but I good takedowns are ok.
