Can you slam in BJJ?

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by V. Ornatus, Mar 12, 2008.

  1. V. Ornatus

    V. Ornatus Guest

    Hi,

    I have never posted in the grappling forum before, but I have a simple question. What are the rules regarding throws/slams in a pure JJ/BJJ competition. Obviously, takedowns are common, but is there a specific rule prohibiting lifting someone up before taking them down. Or, if you do lift someone, is there a rule stating that they must be "put down" rather than slammed? Any responses greatly appreciated.
     
  2. V. Ornatus

    V. Ornatus Guest

    Let's say you get caught in a triangle.............:icon_twis
     
  3. TacWar

    TacWar Green Belt

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    if you get caught in a triangle and slam someone you should be kicked in the balls repeatedly, there is nothing against a slam on a takedown, but really why the hell would you feel the need to slam someone in competition unless you are a douchebag...are you a douchebag or just a troll?
     
  4. V. Ornatus

    V. Ornatus Guest

    Well, I try to be neither. I am asking out of genuine curiosity. I was wondering whether or not slamming was within the rules. From your response it sounds like it is but apparently really bad etiquette. I guess if it is allowed I don't understand what would be douchey about doing it?
     
  5. V. Ornatus

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    Let me just add one more thing. If someone is literally trying to choke you out, I REALLY don't see the problem with slamming them (if it is not prohibitted by the rules).

    Anyone else have any thoughts, the first guy didn't really answer the question outright.
     
  6. TacWar

    TacWar Green Belt

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    b/c you don't get any extra points in it and the only point in slamming would be to hurt the opponent and if your only concern in bjj is hurting people you are a being a douchebag...and the reason you are a troll is because this is like the ninth time I have seen a thread like this in this forum in the past month.
     
  7. Heavy Bag

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    Slamming is illegal in most BJJ tournaments.
     
  8. Hit-or-be-hit

    Hit-or-be-hit Green Belt

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    i slammed some1 while we were rolling
    and they gave me the talking 2.
    IDK if u can do it in a competition or not though!
    They said basically 2 slam people in competitions just not while we are training so some of me says yes and some of me says no
     
  9. V. Ornatus

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    My thinking is this: you may not get any "points" but if you rattle your opponent or even knock him out that could win you the match. The point of the slam would be to win the match, not to hurt your opponent (which is unfortunately a reality of combat sports)

    As far as this being a repeat thread, well, sorry. It occured to me in the car today and I got curious. I usually read stuff in the HW's, and someone recently said that guys in the grappling forum are more knowledgable, and less like keyboard warriors who talk trash over the internet. You must be an exception to that rule.
     
  10. V. Ornatus

    V. Ornatus Guest

    This is what I was looking for. How do they enforce this, or, what is the line. How do they judge what is a takedown and what is a slam?
     
  11. TacWar

    TacWar Green Belt

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    so instead of actually showing skill in bjj you want to pick someone up and slam them on the ground...you must not actually train at all.
     
  12. Heavy Bag

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    I hate tools that come to class after watching one too many Rampage highlights, attempt to slam someone or spaz uncontrollably, get choked repeatedly and never come back. People really need to research the sport they are trying to enter and have an open mind. BJJ is the gentle art, do you think that includes slamming someone on their fucking head? I'll tell you one thing, slam me and I guarantee you're going to sleep.
     
  13. Heavy Bag

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    Most takedowns are OK, it's slamming from the guard or slamming to get out a submission that's illegal in most tourneys.
     
  14. jerbone

    jerbone Orange Belt

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    You should change your post to read
    "I have never posted in the grappling forum or actualy grappled before"
    Also maybe adding something in there about being douchebag too.
     
  15. V. Ornatus

    V. Ornatus Guest

    As far as I'm concerned, countering an effective submission with power and athleticism is most certainly a skill in grappling.

    I have no grappling experience but I do train. I have been thinking about learning some BJJ, that is part of the reason I am curious.

    Anyway, lighten up. I guess if you need a reason to vent, let me have it. Like I said, I was just curious about the rules.

    I mean this with no sarcasm, I hope you have a good day. peace.
     
  16. Zankou

    Zankou Muscle and Hate Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I've seen a guy get DQ'd for slamming at the Pan Ams, and he threw a gigantic hissy fit.
     
  17. V. Ornatus

    V. Ornatus Guest

    Serious? Reread my post.

    First sentence, "I have never posted in the grappling forum before."

    And yeah, the love is strong in here. Jeez.
     
  18. Heavy Bag

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    Serious question here, what makes people think slamming is a valid submission escape? In most cases it only makes the submission tighter and in a lot of cases you risk injury greater than the chance of making your opponent release a sub.
     
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    its not a skill. Slamming is basically striking your opponent. The intent is to hurt the opponent with a strike. if you allow slamming to get out of subs, why not allow ground and pound to do the same?
     
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    If you were to slam someone like rampage/arona, you would be disqualified. That being said its not as easy as rampage made it look, and without strikes is not too difficult to counter.
     

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