Can The Avengers take down Superman?

FyrFytr998 said:
Thor could take Superman by virtue of the godly magical items he possesses. Secondly Shazam owns Supes all the live long day. That’s why DC bought his rights and benched him to protect the big blue cheese. Supes ain’t shit without plot armor.

Dr. Fate could totally make Supes his bitch as well.
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No.
 
KnightTemplar said:
Give me a couple of kilos of Kyrptonite and a baseball bat, and I'll make Superman my prison bitch.

Without Special K, Superman bitch-slaps the Avengers and doesn't even break a sweat.
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Aparently the logic in suicide squad was less than that as in order to counter an evil superman the movie was trying to sell us on a baseball bat wielding harley quin as his equal...









Lol
 
Add Scarlett Johansson's tits . . . err I mean black widow and I think they could

<puh-lease75>
 
Tiny said:
Aparently the logic in suicide squad was less than that as in order to counter an evil superman the movie was trying to sell us on a baseball bat wielding harley quin as his equal...









Lol
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Yeah, I saw the flaw in their cunning plan right away:rolleyes:
 
Well...

Superman is worthy of lifting Mjolnir
The Flash IS faster than Superman... The Flash IS speed personified.

Tony Stark IS rich enough to synthesize Kryptonite, but he's got to survive long enough to figure out Supes weaknesses....

I say a bloodlusted superman murks the Avengers unless they have prep time enough to synthesize Kryptonite.
 
Strychnine said:
Well...

Superman is worthy of lifting Mjolnir
The Flash IS faster than Superman... The Flash IS speed personified.

Tony Stark IS rich enough to synthesize Kryptonite, but he's got to survive long enough to figure out Supes weaknesses....

I say a bloodlusted superman murks the Avengers unless they have prep time enough to synthesize Kryptonite.
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In comic book land when they raced yes, the flash won all of the races except 1. But that's not the point.

In the clip I showed from the last justice league, Superman is able to move at a speed beyond thor, hulk, iron man , dr strange...well anyone.

He can move so fast (like the flash) that they would appear to be standing still.

As such...MAYBE dr strange could deal with this using the time stone? But as far as the avengers? Ironman, Hulk, Thor, Cap? Not one of them has an ability natural to those characters that could deal with that. As such, they all get murked before they even know it's a fight.

Comic book and movie writers stray from this fact because it would be a nightmare to write up any kind of challenging situation for Superman to deal with.
 
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Tiny said:
In comic book land when they raced yes, the flash won all of the races except 1. But that's not the point.

In the clip I showed from the last justice league, Superman is able to move at a speed beyond thor, hulk, iron man , dr strange...well anyone.

He can move so fast (like the flash) that they would appear to be standing still.

As such...MAYBE dr strange could deal with this using the time stone? But as far as the avengers? Ironman, Hulk, Thor, Cap? Not one of them has an ability natural to that those characters. As such, they all get murked before they even know it's a fight.
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On Thor's chariot he has a belt that doubles his strength. If he uses it, he basically has to spend a week in bed to recover. Thor would take a LOT out of Superman before he fought the Hulk in this scenario. Superman is NOT stronger than the Hulk. The angrier Hulk gets, the stronger he gets. A bloodlusted Superman (that was the kicker here) would not be thinking rationally and would be in a berserker rage.

No one out berserks The Strongest One There Is.

No one.

Sans Kryptonite, it would boil down to a berserk Superman fighting a berserk Hulk.

Hulk does what Doomsday did but with even more violence.
 
Strychnine said:
On Thor's chariot he has a belt that doubles his strength. If he uses it, he basically has to spend a week in bed to recover. Thor would take a LOT out of Superman before he fought the Hulk in this scenario. Superman is NOT stronger than the Hulk. The angrier Hulk gets, the stronger he gets. A bloodlusted Superman (that was the kicker here) would not be thinking rationally and would be in a berserker rage.

No one out berserks The Strongest One There Is.

No one.

Sans Kryptonite, it would boil down to a berserk Superman fighting a berserk Hulk.

Hulk does what Doomsday did but with even more violence.
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You are completely missing the point.

Once you have a character that moves faster than people can quantify and they appear still to him, Superman doesn't need to match strength or stamina with any of them. He simply would have his way with them before they could even react to the fact that they were in a fight.

Superman would turn Thor Iron man Hulk and Cap into these security guard in this clip.



He could have Thor in outerspace before Thor would have a chance to blink. He could have the Hulk hurtling towards the Sun or a black hole...He could literally remove all of Stark's armor before one voice command or snap caps spine. All of this before any of them could blink.

None have any natural ability to deal with Superman's speed.

None.

You don't know about this ability because the writers avoid it like the plague as it's extremely OP. You basically are giving Hulk the speed of quick silver with cap's brain.

What could ANY avenger do against that?

Doomsday could match Supes speed as he was also from krypton so he had most of the same powers. They referenced his speed in the comics of death of superman. The hulk, on the other hand has never been described as to be as fast as quick silver to my knowledge. He's just strong and has rage.
 
Tony stark with prep would find a way on how to beat him using other strategy. Maybe supermans got some weakness too not just kryptonite. Alot of the times inteligence would beat brute strength
 
Tiny said:
You are completely missing the point.

Once you have a character that moves faster than people can quantify and they appear still to him, Superman doesn't need to match strength or stamina with any of them. He simply would have his way with them before they could even react to the fact that they were in a fight.

Superman would turn THor Iron man Hulk and Cap into these security guard in this clip.



He could have Thor in outerspace before Thor would have a chance to blink. He could have the Hulk hurtling towards the Sun or a black hole...He could literally remove all of Stark's armor before one voice command or snap caps spine. All of this before any of them could blink.

None have any natural ability to deal with Superman's speed.

None.

You don't know about this ability because the writers avoid it like the plague as it's extremely OP. You basically are giving Hulk the speed of quick silver with cap's brain.

What could ANY avenger do against that?
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You're 100% correct...

IF Superman were thinking rationally, but he's bloodlusted remember?
He'd be enraged and berserk lashing out at anything that moved. He would not be thinking rationally. He would be thinking "Superman smash."
 
Strychnine said:
You're 100% correct...

IF Superman were thinking rationally, but he's bloodlusted remember?
He'd be enraged and berserk lashing out at anything that moved. He would not be thinking rationally. He would be thinking "Superman smash."
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I would think that a blood lusted superman...

This version?...


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The one charged up from the sun went primal and became pure energy....forming inside of brainiac and then splitting him apart from the inside out?

I should think that superman wouldn't hold back any power. Speed/strength it would all be turned on to an 11. It would be bad news for the avengers.
 
World-breaker hulk is essentially Doomsday, and Doomsday beat superman to death.

Motivated Hulk with an assist from Thor would win.
 
Tiny said:
I would think that a blood lusted superman...

This version?...


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The one charged up from the sun went primal and became pure energy....forming inside of brainiac and then splitting him apart from the inside out?

I should think that superman wouldn't hold back any power. Speed/strength it would all be turned on to an 11. It would be bad news for the avengers.
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Good point, but I was just thinking if Superman just went nutso without any boosts. He really doesn't need any. :/
 
Tabarnakos said:
Well apparently they already clashed in the DC/marvel crossover comic (didn't knew that) and look like you are correct... Sup won but barely. But Sup lost to the New Avengers. So here it is :
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uber nerds already know that crossovers between companies aren't canon, thus not to be taken into consideration. if they were, we would have to accept that wolverine took down lobo. and that is the epitome of idiocy.
 
salamander said:
World-breaker hulk is essentially Doomsday, and Doomsday beat superman to death.

Motivated Hulk with an assist from Thor would win.
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Hes doomsday without the speed.

Hulk loses badly
 
Tiny said:
Hes doomsday without the speed.

Hulk loses badly
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doomsday is also essentially immortal and can't die the same way twice. essentially, he gets better with each death/evolution.
 
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