Can The Avengers take down Superman?

[Anung Un Rama]

all star superman was great.

It was. It made Superman cool in spite of magnifying everything about him that makes him lame and unrelatable.

 

[spin]

Batman is the fucking lamest of them all because take a look at his fucking villains, they are all dorks.

The Joker,Penguin,etc.

And his fucking persona is fucking time annoying

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Superman via speed blitz

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Superman is literally the lamest creation of all time.

 

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

Was thinking recently how Ironman would permanently make all those villains not problems w/o hurting them if he lived in Batman's Universe.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

Was thinking recently how Ironman would permanently make all those villains not problems w/o hurting them if he lived in Batman's Universe.

He would stick them in a rocket and send them to Sakaar

 

[punkmother]

Superman is literally the lamest creation of all time.

not even close. in 2000 marvel created the sentry, and tried to fool people into thinking he had been created way back in the past. he is also the worst superman knock off of all the superman knock offs (hyperion, gladiator, wonder man, etc.).

 

[spin]

Was thinking recently how Ironman would permanently make all those villains not problems w/o hurting them if he lived in Batman's Universe.

a superpowered hero takes out a cast of non or barely superpowered villians.

you really had to take time to think about that?

 

[Headkicktoleg]

not even close. in 2000 marvel created the sentry, and tried to fool people into thinking he had been created way back in the past. he is also the worst superman knock off of all the superman knock offs (hyperion, gladiator, wonder man, etc.).

Never heard of him. Superman is the lamest popular creation of all time.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

 

[Anung Un Rama]

not even close. in 2000 marvel created the sentry, and tried to fool people into thinking he had been created way back in the past. he is also the worst superman knock off of all the superman knock offs (hyperion, gladiator, wonder man, etc.).

Agreed. Sentry is the worst.
Gladiator was awesome until Cannonball beat him 1 on 1 (cringe).

 

[SiKnSiN]

hulk and thor have some pretty insane feats as well.

They do, but Pre-Crisis Supes was ridiculous.

 

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

a superpowered hero takes out a cast of non or barely superpowered villians.

you really had to take time to think about that?

all the while following Batman's code of ethics (not killing any one of them)

 

[Bald1]

The Hulk is MUCH stronger than Thor even at base level. And enraged he could destroy all Valhalla.

This is just false and backwards.

 

[BEER]

I firmly believe that Superman is a stupid character.

But he's stupid because if you take his character with all the powers at his disposal, he's unbeatable. The only way Superman is beaten is if, for one reason [writers] or another [writers], he loses a significant chunk of his abilities.

But Avengers versus full-powered Supes isn't a fight. It's a massacre.

 

[bad seed]

This is just false and backwards.

 

[Bob Gray]

Comes down to the writer. But DC Would never let one of their flagship characters get beaten by a second tier maevel character.

Thor is basically as strong as the writer wants him to be, and he's literally lifted planets. Plus he has "power ups" like whatxhamacallit warrior rage he gets.

Plus they fought before in he JLA/Avengers crossover. One of those "hard fought battles where both characters get to beat the other somehow" thing. Then they both have their "strongest opponent I ever faced" thing and basically they talk about either guy could win on any given day.


Anyway. In the comics Thor basically done everything Superman has done except frost breath and heat vision. Plus he has a hammer and can go into a "rage" where he's like 10 times stronger. For all intents and purposes, Thor is as powerful or more powerful than Supes, but DC would never allow Supes to get beat.

 

[Frank23]

great post really glad you informed everyone of this : )

No problem.

 

[salamander]

Hes doomsday without the speed.

Hulk loses badly

If the Hulk can hang with someone like the Sentry he he can hang with superman ....but I guess it would have to be the strongest version of Hulk versus one of the weaker versions of superman for the fight to be remotely competitive.

 

[Tiny]

If the Hulk can hang with someone like the Sentry he he can hang with superman ....but I guess it would have to be the strongest version of Hulk versus one of the weaker versions of superman for the fight to be remotely competitive.

I'm going to explain this again because it's not sinking in with most of the people in this thread.

Superman is actually about as fast as flash/quicksilver. (on top of every other power) It's been noted, and referenced and he's used it. Writers just don't play it up during fights because if they did, it would be game over all the time which is boring. As such you only see supes use his speed during passive moments or fun moments...but hardly ever in combat.

I'm no marvel fan boy but I don't think they've ever compared the hulk to quicksilver as far as speed goes. So in a confrontation, if the writer/director is being true to superman's abilities, he would be moving so damn fast hulk would be standing still. Allowing supes to do whatever he would want with hulk before hulk could even blink. This wouldn't be a "supes needs to hang with hulks strength or stamina" deal...it's a "supes would have the hulk sent out into orbit hurtling towards a black hole before the hulk could get a blink off" kind of deal.

Now before you try and compare hulk to doomsday, understand that doomsday is also kryptonian and has inherited most of supes core abilities (except flight) so dooms day is really just as fast. And they reference his speed in the death of superman comics. But they never played it up. But that's how doomsday had the ability to hang and kill supes.

The hulk simply has no fucking chance here, nor do any of the avengers...IF the writers were actually honoring all of supes strengths. Which they don't...because the dude is stupidly powerful.

Supes takes out all the avengers before they could even move.