Can DDP stop Khamzat's early TDs?

[Bradillac]

Brunson was 40 and literally the fight before DDP, Brunson wilted after the 1st round to Cannonier. Khamzat has never had similar issues. Against Usman he fractured his arm after the 1st round and still won the decision.

“Winning the decision” is meaningless. We all saw the fight, he looked like shit. Yes, Chimaev is on the same level as a 40 year old Brunson. Dude also fought much tougher competition than Chimaev.

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

I think an even more interesting question is will DDP be able to get Chimaev down? I think that answer is yes.

lol

 

[fortheo]

DDP has heart, but he's also not a Tony Ferguson or Merab where he's just going to melt his opponents cardio with activity. He's gotten taken down by Till, Whittaker, and Brunson. Till/Whittaker he just got out from there, and they never shot again. Against Brunson he sort of just accepted position and tried for a comeback in the 2nd round which was what he did.

I just don't see DDP as a workhorse that gasses his opponents out besides the pressure he puts on. He's really dangerous as the fight goes on, but I think only Khamzat can gas himself out going for a finish he can't get. Also I think DDP will gas out trying to stop 1st round Khamzat.

He never accepted position against Brunson. I suggest watching that first round again. Both were working the entire time. Both even went for toe holds at some point. That was a wacky round

 

[Tweak896]

He never accepted position against Brunson. I suggest watching that first round again. Both were working the entire time. Both even went for toe holds at some point. That was a wacky round

Need to do a rewatch then, just looked at stats for refresh before posting about it. I just remembered being weirded out how spent Brunson was in the 2nd. Maybe the submissions were it.

 

[fortheo]

Need to do a rewatch then, just looked at stats for refresh before posting about it. I just remembered being weirded out how spent Brunson was in the 2nd. Maybe the submissions were it.

Yeah, Brunson became a one round fighter in his last few UFC fights. He was still a great wrestler in that one round though.

 

[hector domino]

Would be pretty embarrasing for Khamzat to just do what he does.

The greats, such as Jones, aim to test themselves against their opponents strengths. So let's say Khamzat takes DDP down and submits him easily. That would be a loss for Khamzat, imo.

yup I especially hated when ANderson front kicked Vitor. What a ffucking loser

 

[Fedorgasm]

Fuck no he can't, he has some of the worst TDD in the division, and won't even be able to defend against a gassed Khamzat. People are coping hard with the idea that he'll survive and make Khamzat gas, when ONLY Usman has been able to do that, who happens to be one of the best MMA wrestlers of all time and also happens to have an extreme gas tank.

The Burns fight is completely irrelevant because Khamzat wanted to avoid his ground game altogether and it was mostly a stand-up war.

He doesn't give two shits about DDP's ground game. This is the same DDP that got thrown around by Brunson and even made Whittaker look like he was Khabib. I don't think Whittaker even has five takedowns in his career.

So then the UFC goes even more extreme, and gives him the next 3 fights against the two fighters with practically ZERO offensive wrestling in Izzy and Strickland. So 4 fights against non existent wrestling is somehow supposed to make us believe he got 100 times better at it since the Brunson fight, and will now be able to defend against possibly the best MMA wrestler we've ever seen.....what, because he has muscles?

This is a squash match. I like DDP but he's the one being falsely elevated right now, compared to a truly rare talent like Khamzat.

Finally someone got it right

 

[rjmbrd]

even made Whittaker look like he was Khabib.

I know you're a generally terrible shit-poster but this is especially hilarious.

Dricus hip tossed Whittaker to the mat in the first round then beat the absolute SHIT out of him with ground & pound. He handled Whittaker like it was his little cousin. He then KO's him in the second.

You also mentioned Bruson as though surviving bad ground positions with a ground specialist veteran, and get out and KO them is a knock on his abilities.

Stay retarded fam. You special to us.

 

[AndrewGolota48]

I know you're a generally terrible shit-poster but this is especially hilarious.

Dricus hip tossed Whittaker to the mat in the first round then beat the absolute SHIT out of him with ground & pound. He handled Whittaker like it was his little cousin. He then KO's him in the second.

You also mentioned Bruson as though surviving bad ground positions with a ground specialist veteran, and get out and KO them is a knock on his abilities.

Stay retarded fam. You special to us.

It was extra flair clown, but the point is that he never takes down anyone yet was able to do so with DDP. It's like when MVP made Paul Daley look like an all American.

You try hard to put up a front but you know deep down you're inferior, which was proven beyond a doubt during our interactions about A-level athletes in MMA (you're probably too embarrassed to admit your former positions at this point), so you desperately try to hide behind cowardly snark and sass. You've been put in your place like a bad doggy several times and now are always looking for my attention like a literal pest, grasping for some kind of redemption that can't be attained.

You created that whole part about Brunson from thin air like some kind of angry spurned girlfriend, but I never said anything like that, and Brunson is far from Khamzat at any rate. This is not a competitive fight, it's Shogun vs Jones all over again. And I want DDP to win just as I wanted Shogun to, but some of us can separate emotions from an objective view.

 

[rjmbrd]

It was extra flair clown, but the point is that he never takes down anyone yet was able to do so with DDP. It's like when MVP made Paul Daley look like an all American.

You try hard to put up a front but you know deep down you're inferior, which was proven beyond a doubt during our interactions about A-level athletes in MMA (you're probably too embarrassed to admit your former positions at this point), so you desperately try to hide behind cowardly snark and sass. You've been put in your place like a bad doggy several times and now are always looking for my attention like a literal pest, grasping for some kind of redemption that can't be attained.

You created that whole part about Brunson from thin air like some kind of angry spurned girlfriend, but I never said anything like that, and Brunson is far from Khamzat at any rate. This is not a competitive fight, it's Shogun vs Jones all over again. And I want DDP to win just as I wanted Shogun to, but some of us can separate emotions from an objective view.

Please stop tipping your fedora at me.

 

[mkess101]

It was extra flair clown, but the point is that he never takes down anyone yet was able to do so with DDP.

"Never takes anyone down".

Bobby had 9 TD's combined in the 3 fights prior to his fight with DDP.

Dude, I can't even tolerate your stupidity in threads about fights where I agree with you who will win.

 

[Bradillac]

lol

You disagree? DDP is strong as fuck and Chimaev is going to be exhausted past round one. I think there’s a fairly high chance that DDP gets him down at some point in the fight. He’s said he’s going to try, and it makes sense strategy wise to tire Chimaev out even more.

 

[AndrewGolota48]

"Never takes anyone down".

Bobby had 9 TD's combined in the 3 fights prior to his fight with DDP.

Dude, I can't even tolerate your stupidity in threads about fights where I agree with you who will win.

You got me a bit on this one, I knew he focused on takedowns vs Adesanya because he had too, but I admit I had no idea he took down Gastropub 4 times. Forgot they even fought honestly. Kudos! Keep up this good work and I might let you shine my shoes one of these days!

But yeah you could also phrase it that he had as many takedowns in the two fights against Adesanya and Gastelum....as he has in his entire career COMBINED. So those two fights had as many takedowns as his other 34 fights put together.

 

[TrueBias]

There's a danger inherent to that as well. Get so focused on the TD threat that you forget about the striking and end up getting pieced up. Isn't that what people were saying about Periera after the Ank fight?

Yep.

But we've seen the unlikely feats done before, like Alan Belfort going to the grown is Paul Harris and winning.

 

[TheBulge]

Would be pretty embarrasing for Khamzat to just do what he does.

The greats, such as Jones, aim to test themselves against their opponents strengths. So let's say Khamzat takes DDP down and submits him easily. That would be a loss for Khamzat, imo.

Riiight so his aim should be to please the goofs on this site.

The same site that will trash him if he does the opposite of what you just said i.e. 'he didn't stick to doing what he does best WTF'

 

[TheBulge]

You got me a bit on this one, I knew he focused on takedowns vs Adesanya because he had too, but I admit I had no idea he took down Gastropub 4 times. Forgot they even fought honestly. Kudos! Keep up this good work and I might let you shine my shoes one of these days!

I told mkess101 yesterday to go get his shinebox but he didn't appriciate that.

 

[rjmbrd]

"Never takes anyone down".

Bobby had 9 TD's combined in the 3 fights prior to his fight with DDP.

Dude, I can't even tolerate your stupidity in threads about fights where I agree with you who will win.

This is a 10/10 post

 

[mkess101]

I told mkess101 yesterday to go get his shinebox but he didn't appriciate that.

Not true. I got a good chuckle out of it so there was some appreciation. When little muppets try to act tough there's absolutely entertainment value.

 

[rjmbrd]

Yep.

But we've seen the unlikely feats done before, like Alan Belfort going to the grown is Paul Harris and winning.

Joe Rogan screaming "back up and GET OUT OF THERE Alan"

What a wild fight / moment in MMA history. Going to the twister setup against that tree trunk was crazy work.

 

[mooseman17]

Chimaev is 100% taking DDP down round 1 and will find success. It is what happens after if he does not get the finish is what makes the fight interesting.

IMO, the takedown success from him will stop at the beginning of round 2 and he is getting finished by 4. However, I would not be at all surprised if Chimaev just runs through DDP, based on his fighting style.