Can anyone at 155 or 170 beat Islam?

[The Siege]

Islam is probably p4p number 1 today, you cannot take him lightly. That being said, at 170, he never fought anyone elite. What about Leon, Khamzat, Burns, Colby, Kamaru, Shavkat ? All those guys are very good grapplers, they are big...i dont see Islam having an easy fight against any of those guys.

Yeah, I am a big fan of Makh, but saying he would clean house at 170 easily is wild as hell.

 

[NoSmilez]

This is such a weird talking point.

In his 4 UAE fights:
- He finished Charles in 2 rounds, someone who is a kill or be killed fighter who rarely goes to a decision by Arm Triangle SUB
- A short notice Volk off the couch by KO/TKO
- Davi Ramos by decision
- Short notice Dan Hooker who isnt known for his grappling via Kimura SUB

Outside of the UAE:
- Dustin by D'Arce SUB after outstriking him
- FW Champ and #1 P4P Volk by DEC
- Short notice Bobby Green by TKO
- Thiago Moises by Rear Naked Choke SUB
- Drew Dober by Arm Triangle SUB
- Short notice debuting Arman by DEC
- Kajan Johnson by Armbar SUB
- Glieson Tibaue by KO/TKO
- Nike Lentz by DEC
- Chris Wade by DEC
- Leo Kunt by Rear Naked Choke SUB
- Loss to Martins by KO/TKO

He performs BETTER outside of the UAE lmao

I was referring to his main event fights. Look at his fights in Vegas. There isn't a crowd in the Apex.

Dustin was a pretty shit performance by Islam considering he is a -600 favorite. Not sure why he looked so bad but he had ample rehydration time.
Islam in Australia is a different animal vs Islam in the UAE.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

i could see him beating most of the WW division

however guys like Leon and Shavkat could give him some big troubles. They are massive and Leon has great TDD. Leon's range would also be a big problem

he probably walks through ian garry, jdm, colby, wonderboy... beats burns.

Shavkat beats him and probably beats him easily. Poirier gave him all he could handle. Shavkat is a real WW and would probably KO Islam within 3 rounds. The takedowns won't work on Shavkat. He's too big, strong and good.

 

[XDeathClutchX]

Tons of 170 guys beat him.
Leon, Colby, Usman(prime usman easily past prime usman probably still gets it done.), Belal might win, hell everyone but wonderboy in the top 10 probably beats him.

 

[laleggenda27]

There are a number of guys who "could" beat Islam at LW, but none should be favored to actually do it. Call me crazy, but I would love to see Islam vs. Moicano at LW. Moicano isn't the best contender in the division, but he's a dog who could present problems in the later rounds.

At WW, I think Shavkat is a nightmare matchup for Islam. I'd also favor Leon over him; the speed and length would be a major problem for Islam.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

I'm thinking Islam cleans house at both 155 and 170 easily. Would winning both titles would put him over Khabib in the GOAT discussion?

Yes, by knockout

 

[cburm]

I'm thinking Islam cleans house at both 155 and 170 easily. Would winning both titles would put him over Khabib in the GOAT discussion?

Well for one khabib is not in the goat discussion he's not even the best lw there's Ben that's still penn I think Islam will beat penns record though. Anyways.

I think guys who can beat Islam are

Max Holloway
Tcity

Lw no I don't think anyone can Charles was the most well versed and Islam finished him. It's a very one dimensional division. Maybe Conor idk.

Ww I think Leon beats Islam I think Leon has his number his style is perfect to fight islams style.

Also Gilbert Burns is a really bad matchup for Islam I think burns smokes Islam would def be a great fight.

I also have Colby beating Islam

And usmen

The wrestlers at ww are the best imo.

And burns is an abu dabi bjj champion.

They all respect his bjj


Khamzat beats him and shavkat

 

[VinceArch]

I was referring to his main event fights. Look at his fights in Vegas. There isn't a crowd in the Apex.

Dustin was a pretty shit performance by Islam considering he is a -600 favorite. Not sure why he looked so bad but he had ample rehydration time.
Islam in Australia is a different animal vs Islam in the UAE.

and Volk is a different animal than Poirier.

 

[filthybliss]

Any top 10 fighter at 170lbs has a better chance than Dustin did.

 

[TITS]

Well, someone at 145 almost beat him, in fact a lot of people thought he did.

 

[jx820]

I think he's a bad style match for Leon. I think shavkat would be a terrible style match for Islam.

Islam has struggled with a FW and a 35+ year old so far despite having every physical advantage in both fights. I can't imagine things would go a lot better against the bigger stronger younger comparably technical fighters.

 

[MarleyLynx]

Islam is good but he has been fighting end of the road fighters and featherweights recently. Let's have some contenders manifest and we'll see how we fairs.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

He’s beaten former FW Oliveira, current FW Alex, twice. And former FW Dustin.

And you’re saying he’d beat every WW?

That’s fucking ridiculous.

 

[Brendan The Hybrid Schaub]

Islam is a huge LW but big WWs would dwarf him

 

[markys00]

Ur fucking dumb, bro

 

[MrBlackheart]

No one beats Islam at 155. He’s probably -350 vs Armen and at least -500 vs the rest of the LWs. He’s that good. At 170, I see a him 50/50 vs Shavkat, Leon.

 

[swarrrm]

I'd favor him over any lw but lw is stacked, he could lose to a bunch of guys. At ww I think he loses to Leon and Shavkat. Usman, Belal, Burns and Brady would be interesting.

 

[egk]

People always said the same thing about Khabib but there is a reason these guys cut massive amounts of weight to fight in a lower division. If it was that easy they'd already be at WW.

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

Where are the "Islam is GOAT" threads?

 

[Natural Order]

Shavkat would obliterate Islam at 170