Cain Velasquez enters plea of no contest for attempted murder, gun charges

What do you mean "may" he's pled already. We are beyond the point of charges sticking. He has formally entered a plea of no contest to the charges brought by the people.

Now he will appear for sentencing.
Yeah. Pleading no contest isn't the same as pleading guilty. Sentencing is up in the air. Still possible he receives time served, or foo foo sentence.
 
I don't see him doing more than a year. Take that to the bank.
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I’m guessing you don’t have any children?

I'm in the minority on this but I do think he deserves to go to jail for how recklessly he acted. I'm sympathetic to his motivation but that's not anywhere near enough to exonerate him here. Even if the accused child molester was in fact guilty that doesn't justify a high speed shoot out which could get so many others in danger and indeed he ended up injuring someone other than the accused.

That said I hope he doesn't get a long sentence and is out relatively early.
 
Sure, the crime is there. But when you judge someone, you take into account many things. His story, his record, the global damages done and what leaded to all of this. At the end of the day, Cain is a first time offender, unanimously loved in his community, nobody died and he was ticked off for the reasons you have talked about. He already did time and putting him in jail again wont help anyone (the victim of the shooting will be compensated, its the civil aspect of that case and it has nothing to do with the criminal aspect of it). There are enough bad people in jail in the US and enough bad people who are not in jail to not go crazy on him, it wont do any good imo.
I am taking into account many things, specifically that he recklessly discharged a firearm and engaged in a high speed chase. Who is to say he won't try again? There is a hard lesson that has to be learned by Cain here. Under other circumstances I would say there's an argument for 15-20 years but I don't want to see that for Cain. I do think he deserves more than a year's worth of prison time.
 
He was already a convicted :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile awaiting a trial....he somehow got a job at a daycare and molested another kid. That's two kids lives completely ruined forever and probably their families. He IS a :eek::eek::eek::eek: and YES he deserves to die.

I like you stand back in most situations like this but people on here trying to defend a fucking :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile make me sick. Not saying you, but there is some people acting like the :eek::eek::eek::eek: should be the one we're all sorry for. Lol.
He hasn't been convicted if he's waiting for the trial, dude.
 
Yeah. Pleading no contest isn't the same as pleading guilty. Sentencing is up in the air. Still possible he receives time served, or foo foo sentence.
What's the difference?
Masvidal pleaded no contest too didn't he?
 
Totally agree, Cain went full retard that day… and should be punished with something.

However, anyone with young children can understand how an otherwise stable and rational man could lose his fucking mind when the :eek::eek::eek::eek: awaiting trial for sucking your preschool little boy’s dick gets let out of jail with no bond.

Read the court transcripts if you’ve got a strong stomach.

It’s fucking vile.
Should've been more competent about it. Like gary plauche.
 
I'm in the minority on this but I do think he deserves to go to jail for how recklessly he acted. I'm sympathetic to his motivation but that's not anywhere near enough to exonerate him here. Even if the accused child molester was in fact guilty that doesn't justify a high speed shoot out which could get so many others in danger and indeed he ended up injuring someone other than the accused.

That said I hope he doesn't get a long sentence and is out relatively early.
He was in a frantic state and can’t be held accountable for his actions; this can and has been used as a defense.
Agreed Strange times when you can have a violent episode with a firearm involved and not be incarcerated awaiting trial.
 
Every crime is consequence of something else. Every one.
Real question is: do you want people to shoot other people around YOUR family?

I prefer pragmatism over moralism. There was lot of stuff happening in Cain's head when he did what he did.
 
What's really strange is the court date for Harry Goularte, the alleged child molester, is tentative for May 2025. He does not have any criminal history and it does not look like the investigation found any other victims out of 20+ children.

Cain's attorneys should be delaying the court date to find the truth about Goularte. But it feels like they expect no additional information to be found.
I feel enlightened by your post. I guess the kid was lying and it's a big mix-up.
 
What's really strange is the court date for Harry Goularte, the alleged child molester, is tentative for May 2025. He does not have any criminal history and it does not look like the investigation found any other victims out of 20+ children.

Cain's attorneys should be delaying the court date to find the truth about Goularte. But it feels like they expect no additional information to be found.
This needs to be stickied. Every Cain thread can be broken down as follows:

1)The complete and utter dumbfucks still defending him
2) The ignorants who won't do 5 seconds of research beyond sherdog comments to learn that there is no real evidence the intended target molested ANYONE
3) The rest of us
 
What's the difference?
Masvidal pleaded no contest too didn't he?
Yeah, but on a misdemeanor

It's cooperating for a reduction but without pleading guilty, but he court will still sentence you as such
 
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