Burger King makes political ad. Backfires.

[Bald1]

Yeah, that's the worst, all these "treatments" and highlights and tips and all that baloney. It can add up to a car payment if you add in all the mani/pedis and facials and so on.

Yeah. That's outrageous! It's not like they can opt out of all those extras or anything. Why are they tacking on all that extra shit when Thug Rose gets her hair did?

 

[BjPenn2017]

What the fuck is a pink tax? They need to fire whoever the fuck came up with this shit immediately. Is this the doing of those damn feminists? They just don't know when to stop for crying out loud.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

The price of baby clothing depends on where you buy it. You are going to pay a lot more at Baby Gap than Wal-Mart or a used baby clothing store. The more important question is why would someone actually pay (and many people do) for expensive brand name clothing for a child who will grow out of it in a month?

That's advertising for you. It's pervasive in our culture. People are willing to pay for that cachet feeling they get carrying a Vuitton bag even if the rent payment is a little late.

 

[Rygu]

The pink tax is very real. Im glad BK took a stand against all the incels and right wing women haters

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Or worse, blue pussy

I've got my red wings, so yeah, blue pussy doesn't sound too bad.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

So you're cool with justified/earned discrimination?

It's not discrimination. They charge more for groups that make more claims.

 

[IDL]

It's not discrimination. They charge more for groups that make more claims.

How is a perfectly safe driver not discriminated against just because he belongs to a more statistically risky group? I understand the logic behind it, but still it sounds like discrimination really.

 

[Bald1]

It's not discrimination. They charge more for groups that make more claims.

It sure is discrimination. And there's nothing wrong with it.

Discrimination
1)the unjust or *prejudicial* treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

Prejudicial
2)leading to premature judgment or unwarranted opinion

I belong to a group that has earned the burden of paying higher insurance premiums due to our groups tendency to be more dangerous behind the wheel than women. Yes, I'm pre-judged when buying insurance due to my testosterone levels, but it is justified and earned by my groups average behavior that differs from others. The fact that I am a better and safer driver than 99% of the public has no bearing on averages. Lots of discrimination is earned by groups. Unfortunately it's the individual that suffers. In the immortal words of Dennis Leary : "Life's gonna suck when you grow up, when you grow up. It sucks pretty much right now." Crying about it just makes it worse, especially when there's nothing to cry about, as is the case with the "pink tax".

 

[LangfordBarrow]

How is a perfectly safe driver not discriminated against just because he belongs to a more statistically risky group? I understand the logic behind it, but still it sounds like discrimination really.

Maybe so but I guess that's the way it is in the insurance world so they don't go bankrupt. I believe they do take personal history into account but within whatever subset you fall into.

 

[n...not crazy]

As usual, the populace has done its research and then some

 

[LangfordBarrow]

It sure is discrimination. And there's nothing wrong with it.

Discrimination
1)the unjust or *prejudicial* treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

Prejudicial
2)leading to premature judgment or unwarranted opinion

I belong to a group that has earned the burden of paying higher insurance premiums due to our groups tendency to be more dangerous behind the wheel than women. Yes, I'm pre-judged when buying insurance due to my testosterone levels, but it is justified and earned by my groups average behavior that differs from others. The fact that I am a better and safer driver than 99% of the public has no bearing on averages. Lots of discrimination is earned by groups. Unfortunately it's the individual that suffers. In the immortal words of Dennis Leary : "Life's gonna suck when you grow up, when you grow up. It sucks pretty much right now." Crying about it just makes it worse, especially when there's nothing to cry about, as is the case with the "pink tax".

Ok, I won't argue against that, but if you run a business you have to have some rules so you don't go bankrupt. It's either everyone pays the same to cover all categories or you charge the groups that are more expensive a higher rate so the groups that make the least claims can get a better rate. A case can be made for both sides.

 

[Renard]

What a weird ad. Looks like they had successfully blindly parroted a couple of "woke" trends in the past, and thought they could apply this lazy formula to everything.

 

[IDL]

Maybe so but I guess that's the way it is in the insurance world so they don't go bankrupt. I believe they do take personal history into account but within whatever subset you fall into.

Yeah from their perspective it's an optimization problem I presume. There are all sorts of groups someone could fall under to raise their risk profile purely based on statistics. Discrimination in general almost always has a practical element to it to some degree, but sometimes the problems it creates are greater than the problems it solves.

It's actually surprising that insurance could continue to charge men more just because they are men for the same service if they indeed do considering socially, gender is one of the taboos in terms of what discrimination is acceptable, regardless of merit.

 

[Bald1]

Ok, I won't argue against that, but if you run a business you have to have some rules so you don't go bankrupt. It's either everyone pays the same to cover all categories or you charge the groups that are more expensive a higher rate so the groups that make the least claims can get a better rate. A case can be made for both sides.

I agree completely. Discriminatory behavior is tied to survival instincts as well. In this case survival of a business (ins co).

What I find entertaining is gender discrimination in the insurance industry (that doesn't sound right) is the only form of discrimination against inherent identity the government endorses. Like I said, I have no beef with it because I understand it, but the lack of consistency calls other anti-discrimination rules into question.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Oh' my god. I can almost guarantee they've hired or promoted some uber feminist as a head of advertising, and this was her first big project. Let's see, the ad doesn't promote the brand, the product, or the staff, and instead promotes some political agenda. Yep, definitely the work of some feminist SJW who is completely detached from reality.

i doubt its a conspiracy.

they probably sought to attach themselves to some perceived political/social movement, and missed the mark. none of which is unusual.

 

[IDL]

i doubt its a conspiracy.

they probably sought to attach themselves to some perceived political/social movement, and missed the mark. none of which is unusual.

There isn't anything conspiratorial about political activism done through advertising. It's legal and can just be an extension of the biases of the marketing group.

But of course it can also just be an attempt to 'catch a wave' like you describe, or both.

 

[Prokofievian]

Would you prefer to get in for free and there only be guys in there?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Yeah from their perspective it's an optimization problem I presume. There are all sorts of groups someone could fall under to raise their risk profile purely based on statistics. Discrimination in general almost always has a practical element to it to some degree, but sometimes the problems it creates are greater than the problems it solves.

It's actually surprising that insurance could continue to charge men more just because they are men for the same service if they indeed do considering socially, gender is one of the taboos in terms of what discrimination is acceptable, regardless of merit.

I may be missing something but it just seems logical to me. Men do drive more aggressively, maybe some women too since I have seen them, but if there's a certain segment driving up prices for the rest maybe it is better to hold them accountable. If you happen to be that model driver I can see why you're mad but it's not like they are doing this to discriminate since it's do to statistics.

 

[Bargey]

Beyond cringeworthy.

I might eat Burger King occasionally. I think even the thought of that ad now (along with the greasy food) will make me want to throw up.

No thanks. Marketing fail.

 

[IDL]

I may be missing something but it just seems logical to me. Men do drive more aggressively, maybe some women too since I have seen them, but if there's a certain segment driving up prices for the rest maybe it is better to hold them accountable. If you happen to be that model driver I can see why you're mad but it's not like they are doing this to discriminate since it's do to statistics.

Of course it's logical. I don't disagree with that. But all sorts of discrimination is logical and even if that is purely the case it can still cause social problems. It's a matter of judgement I suppose. Trade-offs.