Bruce Lee on the Heavy Bag

[Graceland]

I do not think Bruce Lee could beat a top 10 HW because he's not a heavyweight. And to be honest, I don't think most of his fans believe that either.

I don't really know what you're trying to disprove here. No one here thinks he could beat Brock Lesnar in a cage fight. We just respect Bruce Lee as a really good fighter. Champions in all different combat sports liked to spar with him on the regular, so how bad could he be?

1. Lee was realistic enough to realize that he would get pulverized by Ali (who was the top guy at the time) in the ring. In the ring, mind you - in the street is a whole different ball game, and Lee was all about dirty dirty, hyper-efficient fighting so he could probably do fairly well against most people in an unarmed no-holds-barred fight. In fact, his legacy is probably as great among Realistic Self Defense practitioners as elsewhere.

2. Actually, he never sparred with any of these students, including virtually the whole list of who's who in the Martial Arts world at the time, and to be fair, most of them regarded the training as more of a trading of techniques. He mainly did full contact sparring with protective gear (which he pioneered) with his senior students like Dan Inosanto et al., as well as some more limited sparring with Wong Shun Leung in HK - which has been described in detail by the latter as a 50-50 exchange of blows.

 

[Jukai]

2. Actually, he never sparred with any of these students, including virtually the whole list of who's who in the Martial Arts world at the time, and to be fair, most of them regarded the training as more of a trading of techniques. He mainly did full contact sparring with protective gear (which he pioneered) with his senior students like Dan Inosanto et al., as well as some more limited sparring with Wong Shun Leung in HK - which has been described in detail by the latter as a 50-50 exchange of blows.

Huh? I was talking about Chuck Norris, Vic Moore, Joe Louis, etc. etc.

 

[wisdom blows]

looks like he was working on hip rotation and power.

i do this on a heavy bag as well.

 

[wisdom blows]

quick, someone tell this guy he knows nothing about boxing. 45 seconds in.

 

[yodsaenkla**]

I'm not trying to piss on Lee. As I said in the OP I think he was a physical specimen, and to add to that, he did a lot for martial arts through his movies and fame. Those are great things.

I just don't think he would be able to smoke any fighter who ever lived.

This is a valid point I know plenty of deluded people who are under this impression, even with 100+ pound weight advantages.

Bruce Lee had a marketing team to make Ramon Dekker's promoters look like a bunch of incompetent hacks.

He had a way with words to rival Shakespeare or Muhamad Ali, he wrote all of his films, wrote poetry in his spare time and had a philosophy degree which helps to explain how many golden quotables he said lots of which about martial arts.

He did display skill in his films high roundhouse kick's, high hook kicks, side kicks, spinning hook kicks most mma fighter's can't competently carry out these techniques. He was also extremely flexible.

 

[weich]

quick, someone tell this guy he knows nothing about boxing. 45 seconds in.

AT 45 seconds in, "The thing about the heavy bag, is just to get into a nice rhythm".

What point are you attempting to make?

 

[Bay Area]

..Its a sad state of affairs when people still try to drag through the dirt the abilities of a man who died almost 40 years ago and also have the nerve to compare him to professional fighters of this era...whats next...saying the U.S Army could take out Alexander the Great??? Bruce Lee was a Man who's thinking and ideology helped bring the idea of abandoning set styles to the MAINSTREAM.

He was more than just a Martial Artist, he was a philosopher and the no.1 zeitgeist of his era.

These kids have no respect for the legend. The method he created was way ahead of its time. You can watch him and see what a great martial artist he was. The balance, quickness, power, combinations, physical attributes, the side kicks. The man was a fighter to the core. He lived and breathed it.

 

[lesterdiamond]

Did I say Lee spent 14 years training with Lebelle? Lester insinuates because Bruce is a celeb, he can't learn? My point with Ed is merely that a celeb can learn. It's not some mystical fame shield that prevents celebs from learning. Bruce Lee is not the end all, be all martial artist at all, but I highly doubt a random internet warrior with just 'mediocre' wrestling could "beat Bruce Lee's ass." Unless you believe he can?

I'm not insinuating that Bruce couldn't learn because he was a celeb. I was pointing out that the fact that he TRAINED with someone as highly regarded as Judo Gene doesn't really impress me because as I stated before a fuck ton of celebs get to TRAIN with pro athletes because they're celebs. What would impress me is if Bruce lee would have competed at a high level of judo for many years and was very successful while doing so but he didn't so that's where I come up with the theory that my 13 years of amateur wrestling and superior size and strength would probably overwhelm a guy his size. I also don't believe his striking was world class as well. watch him work a bag, throw a kick or any old footage of him doing his thing in real life and then watch a pro fighter of smiler stature like Jose Aldo or Floyd mayweather. I love his movies and the guy was a total icon but if you can honestly tell me he would stand any chance at all competing with guys like that you are completely delusional. Martial arts have progressed so far in just the last 20 years that I would go as far as to say that he would most likely get crushed by guys his own size at your local amateur mma events.

 

[fightingrabbit]

what'd i say...


a shit storm.

 

[Jukai]

what'd i say...


a shit storm.

 

[wisdom blows]

AT 45 seconds in, "The thing about the heavy bag, is just to get into a nice rhythm".

What point are you attempting to make?

pay attention to the motion of how he is punching. hands down, using all hip rotation, just punching in a nice smooth rhythm. not unlike how lee was hitting the bag, albeit, a little harder.

 

[DivineComedy]

I'm not insinuating that Bruce couldn't learn because he was a celeb. I was pointing out that the fact that he TRAINED with someone as highly regarded as Judo Gene doesn't really impress me because as I stated before a fuck ton of celebs get to TRAIN with pro athletes because they're celebs. What would impress me is if Bruce lee would have competed at a high level of judo for many years and was very successful while doing so but he didn't so that's where I come up with the theory that my 13 years of amateur wrestling and superior size and strength would probably overwhelm a guy his size. I also don't believe his striking was world class as well. watch him work a bag, throw a kick or any old footage of him doing his thing in real life and then watch a pro fighter of smiler stature like Jose Aldo or Floyd mayweather. I love his movies and the guy was a total icon but if you can honestly tell me he would stand any chance at all competing with guys like that you are completely delusional. Martial arts have progressed so far in just the last 20 years that I would go as far as to say that he would most likely get crushed by guys his own size at your local amateur mma events.

No I don't believe he'd smash Aldo or any of the current mma fighters, but had he been born during this time 20 years ago, I believe he could definitely train then, hold his own and go far, he had the willpower and motivation to train not to mention being a physical specimen , so I don't doubt his ability to learn and adapt to current martial arts.

 

[Dragonborn]

This video doesn't prove anything. Bruce Lee is one of the greatest fighters and a video of him hitting the heavy bag is as much information as a picture of a wall.

 

[judokaboxer]

I doubt it if anybody can take on bruce at his prime. i bet he would kick everyones as$. just look how powerful his side kick is, not to mention his speed and counters

 

[Graceland]

Huh? I was talking about Chuck Norris, Vic Moore, Joe Louis, etc. etc.

He only exchanged techniques with Norris, LEWIS, LeBelle and others. They never sparred, not even once.
Vic Moore never trained with Bruce BTW, he merely participated in a demo in which he was asked to try to counter a backhand from quite a distance. It is all over Youtube, and he never managed to parry it and shakes his head in awe. But after Lee died, he has claimed that he did parry those strikes, and that Lee was no fighter.

 

[lesterdiamond]

Chuck Norris vs. Bruce Lee (April 12 on CNBC) - YouTube

 

[judokaboxer]

it seems that everyone seems to be better than bruce lee here in the internet.

 

[judokaboxer]

his punches are not bad,considering that he punches it with no hand wraps and boxing gloves. I myself might broke my fist doing such thing. if bruce lee were alive today no one would dare disrespect him questioning his martial arts ability. In fact he was way ahead of his generation in terms of martial arts. he was just born early, if he was born today he sure is better than everyone here, considering the equipment and amount of information available, he might be a living example of martial art perfection.

 

[thewhiteSRR]

he might be a living example of martial art perfection.

he's dead

 

[SaiWa]

he's dead

he was just born early, if he was born today he sure is better than everyone here, considering the equipment and amount of information available, he might be a living example of martial art perfection.

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then again, if he was born today, he'd just be a baby... but i understood what you meant...