Breaking News: Trump says he has seen evidence virus came from Wuhan Lab

[lfd0311]

In other words, you made a claim and can't back it up.

Notice how he disappeared after being called out? It's typical.

 

[lfd0311]

You guys always want people to read for you.

Still waiting on your numbers regarding those super low Covid-19 mortality rates, mr. Lysol.................

I read the whole thread. The reason you "weren't going to read the thread" is because the only people talking about this being a conspiracy are 2 left wing posters who projected it into the conversation as a means of attacking Conservatives who weren't making that argument. (You know, that exact same thing you did.) You got owned again, pal. You can keep trying to backtrack all you want, you don't have anything and posted an article that had nothing to do with what this thread is about and acted obnoxiously superior while doing it.

 

[lfd0311]

It's funny that you, a Lysol flu bro, speak of claims not backed, considering you were the idiot trotting forth the numbers regarding Covid-19's mortality rate being far lower than the flu.

Your side of the aisle, in a country you're not even in, are flinging around conspiracies left and right during this pandemic, and the Chinese bioweapon horseshit is no different.

You should perhaps cease posting in Covid threads, considering you've made a fool of yourself every time you speak on these issues, and have earned yellows with your idiocy on top.......

It's like you're not even aware of what projection is.....

 

[Rod1]

I used to think you were an intelligent though naively misguided person. This post laid those misconceptions to rest for ever. You're a confirmed retard.

He does has a point with China since its an authoritarian regime where they are used to force people to do shit like stay at home.

But Cuba is fucking broke and there has been protests and breadlines during this crisis.

 

[lfd0311]

He does has a point with China since its an authoritarian regime where they are used to force people to do shit like stay at home.

But Cuba is fucking broke and there has been protests and breadlines during this crisis.

He really doesn't. Anyone who believes that China only had 4k deaths even just in Wuhan much less the whole country is an idiot.

 

[Rod1]

He really doesn't. Anyone who believes that China only had 4k deaths even just in Wuhan much less the whole country is an idiot.

We cant really tell, we however havent seen any sign of major lockdowns like they did back in Jan, which means its quite likely controlled.

These whole "chinese made the virus" statements sounds a lot like deflection.

 

[lfd0311]

We cant really tell, we however havent seen any sign of major lockdowns like they did back in Jan, which means its quite likely controlled.

These whole "chinese made the virus" statements sounds a lot like deflection.

Yes, you can tell, by simply using logic and reasoning.

EDIT: Show me one "The Chinese made the virus" comment in this thread. I'll wait.

 

[Rod1]

Yes, you can tell, by simply using logic and reasoning.

Yes, logic and reasoning would tell that if the Chinese were trying to hide an outbreak we would know, because we DID knew when they actually did back in January.

EDIT: Show me one "The Chinese made the virus" comment in this thread. I'll wait.

Trump did and now Pompeo is trying to fit the narrative in which Trump saves face.

 

[Andy Capp]

From the left leaning Washington Post, touching on the lax safety issues at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. US Embassy staff sounded the alarm on the unsafe practices at the lab.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

State Department cables warned of safety issues at Wuhan lab studying bat coronaviruses

Quoted select paragraphs

- Two years before the novel coronavirus pandemic upended the world, U.S. Embassy officials visited a Chinese research facility in the city of Wuhan several times and sent two official warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety at the lab, which was conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats. The cables have fueled discussions inside the U.S. government about whether this or another Wuhan lab was the source of the virus — even though conclusive proof has yet to emerge.


- What the U.S. officials learned during their visits concerned them so much that they dispatched two diplomatic cables categorized as Sensitive But Unclassified back to Washington. The cables warned about safety and management weaknesses at the WIV lab and proposed more attention and help. The first cable, which I obtained, also warns that the lab’s work on bat coronaviruses and their potential human transmission represented a risk of a new SARS-like pandemic.


- The research was designed to prevent the next SARS-like pandemic by anticipating how it might emerge. But even in 2015, other scientists questioned whether Shi’s team was taking unnecessary risks. In October 2014, the U.S. government had imposed a moratorium on funding of any research that makes a virus more deadly or contagious, known as “gain-of-function” experiments.


- “The cable tells us that there have long been concerns about the possibility of the threat to public health that came from this lab’s research, if it was not being adequately conducted and protected,” he said.


- There are similar concerns about the nearby Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention lab, which operates at biosecurity level 2, a level significantly less secure than the level-4 standard claimed by the Wuhan Insititute of Virology lab, Xiao said. That’s important because the Chinese government still refuses to answer basic questions about the origin of the novel coronavirus while suppressing any attempts to examine whether either lab was involved.


- Sources familiar with the cables said they were meant to sound an alarm about the grave safety concerns at the WIV lab, especially regarding its work with bat coronaviruses. The embassy officials were calling for more U.S. attention to this lab and more support for it, to help it fix its problems.


- “The cable was a warning shot,” one U.S. official said. “They were begging people to pay attention to what was going on.”


- As my colleague David Ignatius noted, the Chinese government’s original story — that the virus emerged from a seafood market in Wuhan — is shaky. Research by Chinese experts published in the Lancet in January showed the first known patient, identified on Dec. 1, had no connection to the market, nor did more than one-third of the cases in the first large cluster. Also, the market didn’t sell bats.

Well, that's more like it, the information, that is, not the source. This is actual reasonable cause for suspicion. Now we just need to wait and see if any actual evidence turns up.

 

[lfd0311]

Yes, logic and reasoning would tell that if the Chinese were trying to hide and outbreak we would know, because we DID knew when they actually did back in January.

Yes, a virus that spread all across the world and killed thousands of people.... except in the country that it originated in. Make that make sense for me.

Trump did and now Pompeo is trying to fit the narrative in which Trump saves face.

1.) So the answer to my question was "No one". Thanks for clearing that up for me.

2.) They said it originated in a lab, they did not say it was created there. The Left seems to be having the same collective problem with reading comprehension on this subject.

 

[lfd0311]

Well, that's more like it, the information, that is, not the source. This is actual reasonable cause for suspicion. Now we just need to wait and see if any actual evidence turns up.

So basically you'll only believe it if it comes from a Left leaning publication. And you don't see that as a problem.

 

[MicroBrew]

Yes, logic and reasoning would tell that if the Chinese were trying to hide an outbreak we would know, because we DID knew when they actually did back in January.



Trump did and now Pompeo is trying to fit the narrative in which Trump saves face.

Trump does not say China engineered the virus.

 

[Rod1]

Yes, a virus that spread all across the world and killed thousands of people.... except in the country that it originated in. Make that make sense for me.

But it did, back in Jan, despite their efforts to minimize the virus, jailing and killing doctors who spoke about it, we did knew, because its impossible to hide an outbreak.

1.) So the answer to my question was "No one". Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Im not commenting on the posters thread, im commenting on the topic of the thread which is about Pompeo trying to make Trump save face.

2.) They said it originated in a lab, they did not say it was created there. The Left seems to be having the same collective problem with reading comprehension on this subject.

Pompeo came out to fix Trump's verbal diarrea as its usual, Trump says something stupid and his underlings try to make that something into sense.

 

[Deleted member 539235]

the nation’s collective intelligence community does not believe that the coronavirus was manmade or genetically modified.

“The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified,”

The statement from the Office of Director of National Intelligence contradicts reports suggesting that the new coronavirus had been developed by Chinese scientists in a government biological weapons laboratory."

Kind of eviscerates the Chinese bioweapon claims you people have been proposing in your beating of the drums.........

nobodies saying any of this

 

[lfd0311]

But it did, back in Jan, despite their efforts to minimize the virus, jailing and killing doctors who spoke about it, we did knew, because its impossible to hide an outbreak..

And you think that did something to control the spread of the virus itself?

Im not commenting on the posters thread, im commenting on the topic of the thread which is about Pompeo trying to make Trump save face.

No.

Pompeo came out to fix Trump's verbal diarrea as its usual, Trump says something stupid and his underlings try to make that something into sense.

Or just maybe it has to do with the fact that it's been strongly suspected since early April that this virus came from an lab in Wuhan. But sure, whatever you just said.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Earlier Sunday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo stepped up administration claims that China mounted efforts to hide the extent of the coronavirus spread, including concealing the severity while stockpiling medical supplies.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/03/politics/mike-pompeo-china-coronavirus-supplies/index.html

 

[uppercutbus]

Lab or wet market, it came from Chy-Na. Fuck the CCP

Also they're liable either way, there is no scenario where leftists can spin the details so other countries should feel sorry for them so they should not face repercussions because it was an "accident", "it wasn't engineered" or whatever. None of that matters, the way they lie and handled it only strengthens a liability case against them. Then you have WHO being their puppet. . .

 

[Rod1]

And you think that did something to control the spread of the virus itself?

No, but the whole locking down the place militarily, using their insane surveillance program to track sick people and the whole welding people shut in their homes did.

since early April that this virus came from an lab in Wuhan.

About the time things blew up in America and leadership needed to deflect.

 

[lfd0311]

No, but the whole locking down the place militarily, using their insane surveillance program to track sick people and the whole welding people shut in their homes did

it would have already spread all across the country and had already spread to Europe by then. If you think that stopped it spreading to the rest of China but somehow didn’t stop it spreading to the rest of the world, you’re naive.

About the time things blew up in America and leadership needed to deflect.

Yes, a report released by Chinese doctors at a Chinese University who have all since been disappeared by the Chinese government did that on behalf of Trump. Makes perfect sense.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Ask yourself this, about one of the main talking points this administration is making about China. Would the US allow China into our labs if a virus was released on accident? Would the US allow China, or any foreign government to come in and “help” with the virus?

No we would not so I feel Pompeo is offering up a fallacy so the least informed will gobble it up.

In other words, it makes it seem even more likely it's a lab leak.