I actually want Olives to win the title (I can’t stand Chandler), but Olives will get slept unfortunately.@moosaev
The 'overrated' Oliveira is about to succeed your beloved Khabib as LW champ.
Charles stood his ground when demented ex fighters with minuscule youtube shows and the very pathetic MMA media said "theres no way he is getting a title shot". He knew he had the support of the real fans that actually buy stuff not the undesirable housebound ones, common sense, and close relationships with UFC personnel that a true veteran like Oliveira formed and kindled over the past decade.
Your boy Islam is back to the prelims and good riddance! He will soon be joined by the vertically challenged Michael Chandler.
Well he's about to fight the elite and you still seem to have a problem with it. As a fighter all you can do is beat who they put in front of you. As fans we evaluate the performance and lobby for said fighter to fight better comp. Whether your "impressed" or not doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be fighting the best.I literally gave a side by side on Gaethje, Poirier and Khabib's top wins. Olives big wins pale in comparison, it's like night and day. I'm not saying Olives is a bum, i'm saying he hasn't proven that he's at the very elite of the division.
He’s fortunate that Khabib has retired and Poirier is chasing after the money fight. Let’s not pretend that he’s beaten anybody significant, he hasn’t. Unfortunately I don’t see him beating Chandler, I’ll happily come back here and eat crow if he does. But he won’t, he’ll mentally collapse.Well he's about to fight the elite and you still seem to have a problem with it. As a fighter all you can do is beat who they put in front of you. As fans we evaluate the performance and lobby for said fighter to fight better comp. Whether your "impressed" or not doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be fighting the best.
You can be good and still be overrated. hence, you can even be great and overrated.Overrated is a strong word for a fighter who's gone on an 8 fight win streak inside MMA's best division, with seven of those fights being finishes...
That is true, however, TS' OP sounded disrespectful to me, which - if it's meant that way - isn't fair in regards to Oliveira.You can be good and still be overrated. hence, you can even be great and overrated.
He’s fortunate that Khabib has retired and Poirier is chasing after the money fight. Let’s not pretend that he’s beaten anybody significant, he hasn’t. Unfortunately I don’t see him beating Chandler, I’ll happily come back here and eat crow if he does. But he won’t, he’ll mentally collapse.
In other words you agree with the OP The point of the thread is that Olives needs an elite top 5 win for a title shot. He seems to think he deserves one immediately and he’s sitting out as a result.
Your all over the place man. You can't complain about him not beating anybody then complain about him when he gets better competition.He’s fortunate that Khabib has retired and Poirier is chasing after the money fight. Let’s not pretend that he’s beaten anybody significant, he hasn’t. Unfortunately I don’t see him beating Chandler, I’ll happily come back here and eat crow if he does. But he won’t, he’ll mentally collapse.
If Olives manages to beat Chandler he’ll win me over, I’ve said that multiple times on many different threads. I don’t know where you’re getting the impression that I’m complaining that he’ll get tested. My only observation is that his resume is inflated, so when people talk about how much he deserves this or that I just shake my head.Your all over the place man. You can't complain about him not beating anybody then complain about him when he gets better competition.
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Look at this supposedly "great" win streak. You compare this to Gaethje, Poirier of Khabib's recent records and its embarassing. So tell me again why Olives deserves to be mentioned in their category? Chandler has a stronger case IMO.
Tony Ferguson: I think everyone agrees he's washed and Olives picked the bones off the carcass that Gaethje already ate
Kevin Lee: Most overrated LW of all time probably, lost 3 of his last 4.
Nick Lentz: 3 fight losing skid, already lost to Islam Makachev before Olives got the sloppy seconds
Jared Gordon: lol, no comment
David Teymur: Dude hasn't fought in over 2 years.
I don't see him as a top-5 talent, I need to see more from him against better fighters.