Yes I watched both Hoost fights live, they are a perfect example of what I'm talking about. He bum rushed Hoost both times and was put in very little danger in return, he also hit Hoost while he was grounded in both fights. I agree Sapp in his prime would tear most people apart but not once he's put in danger or becomes fearful. In the Nogueira fight Sapp was doing well until he gassed, to be fair that fight was pretty unwinnable for him at the time, Nog was too well-rounded and too durable. Broken ribs are no joke, you're right about an orbital being dangerous but a busted rib can go severely wrong too. I've seen enough Sapp fights to know he doesn't have much heart, technique, skill, speed etc his fights are won strictly by power, dirty tactics and overwhelming an opponent.