Movies BLADE RUNNER 2049 Thread v.2

If you have seen BLADE RUNNER 2049, how would you rate it?

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moreorless87 said:
You do miss out before that scene with the giant hologram the film cuts to the big advert for her following the surrogate seduction very heavily suggesting her nature after which her role in the film clearly diminishes.

Again though I viewed this as a really clumsy piece of writing. Prior to that I think the K/Joi scenes had actually been the strongest sections of the film building up a nice degree of ambiguity as to the depth of their relationship and that scene above was arguably the best in the whole film. To then just cut to a rather basic inference of "nah she was just a bought sex fantasy" by comparison seemed very crude to me. That's not to say that takings things in this direction itself is crude but surely it would have been far more effective to actually have a scene were we see the actors express this?

It does feel like a bit of a kick in the teeth for Ana de Armas especially to build up a character with a good degree of sublty previously then have it capped off in that kind of fashion. Besides being a bit crude generally it also felt a bit dodgy for a role like that to end up being totally defined by the male actors relation to her.

I felt it also damaged the plot with his belief he was the child and discovering otherwise. That was really setup with Joi claiming "specialness" for him from it so having her present was its revealed not to be true seems like it would be much more effective. As it is K really has little to play off of when the revelation is actually made to him having to make do with another giant hologram version of her.
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I liked the final giant hologram Joi scene. I think it served to show how far the Joi we knew, the one K was in a relationship with, had come as an individual from dime-a-dozen companion bot we met in the beginning. Maybe her programming made have to support K and K's dreams of being real and having a soul because a companion bot supports whatever their owner wants but at some point his dreams of being more than what he was manufactured to be rubbed off on Joi and she ascended the role she was built for.

When she became jealous after syncing with the blonde who slept over I really started to see a machine who's mind started to conflict with it's assigned role.
 
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A holograph is a 3 dimensional laser generated image that can not interact with the environment as proposed in the film. I could go on but can't be bothered to expend the energy considering how bad this film is.

Thank you, Mike Drinkwater. It's especially funny when I read it in the voice of a stereotype Native American.

Oh, and this bit of poetry:

If you like really like sounds, you're going to love this movie, the sound techies must have had a blast making it. Uber loud sounds, resembling a steel freighter chaffing against a steel dock in a high wind rattle throughout the whole movie — regardless of what's happening. The loud sounds are the only consistent thread. The rest is composed of disjointed, disconnected scenes. The protagonist managed to maintain the same bland expression throughout the whole film, whether he is having sex, driving his space-ship, eating lunch, shooting someone in the head or being puzzled by the (non-existant) plot. The movie comes alive briefly when Harrison Ford enters the action but slowly fades back into the unremarkable, unintelligble, unfathomable boring story. I was happy when the finish came. Being cheap, I hung into the end, hoping something would happen. It didn't.

What kinda sorta surprises me is the obviously churlish tone some of them have elected to take on, almost branding themselves as boorish ignoramuses. I guess they're going for that self-deprecating voice but it's like, "Of course YOU didn't like it. Look at you." Or maybe they're trolling for feedback?
 
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God damn that movie was magical. They captured just about as much as one can in a 20 year old remake. It was incredibly long but other than being really hungry I didn't care. Really glad I wasn't able to download a shitty cam version and had to see it in a theater.

9/10

I fully understand why someone would rate it a 5/10, but to me, being a huge fan of the original and the book, it was awesome.
 
Also seeing it in theaters with Ana de Armas as JOI all I could think of is her in a jack off instructional.
 
Secret Agent said:
Oh, and this bit of poetry:

If you like really like sounds, you're going to love this movie, the sound techies must have had a blast making it. Uber loud sounds, resembling a steel freighter chaffing against a steel dock in a high wind rattle throughout the whole movie — regardless of what's happening. The loud sounds are the only consistent thread. The rest is composed of disjointed, disconnected scenes. The protagonist managed to maintain the same bland expression throughout the whole film, whether he is having sex, driving his space-ship, eating lunch, shooting someone in the head or being puzzled by the (non-existant) plot. The movie comes alive briefly when Harrison Ford enters the action but slowly fades back into the unremarkable, unintelligble, unfathomable boring story. I was happy when the finish came. Being cheap, I hung into the end, hoping something would happen. It didn't.
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The misspelling of 'non-existent' is a nice touch, and accidentally poetic. Just like the film, this stirring review challenges the very concept.
 
Peteyandjia said:
The misspelling of 'non-existent' is a nice touch, and accidentally poetic. Just like the film, this stirring review challenges the very concept.
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I can't account for the Canadian spelling of things. I can only pity them fools.
 
shockaholic12 said:
I liked the final giant hologram Joi scene. I think it served to show how far the Joi we knew, the one K was in a relationship with, had come as an individual from dime-a-dozen companion bot we met in the beginning. Maybe her programming made have to support K and K's dreams of being real and having a soul because a companion bot supports whatever their owner wants but at some point his dreams of being more than what he was manufactured to be rubbed off on Joi and she ascended the role she was built for.

When she became jealous after syncing with the blonde who slept over I really started to see a machine who's mind started to conflict with it's assigned role.
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Why did Joi bring the prostitute over in the first place again? Was it a ruse by the replicant rebellion?
 
Just got back from watching this in the theaters.

I didnt really like it and thought it was boring. Flame me but I thought Ghost in the Shell was better.

5/10
 
breadfighter said:
Why did Joi bring the prostitute over in the first place again? Was it a ruse by the replicant rebellion?
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Joe got Joi that extension gift and began to feel real so she got him a gift in return that would do the same.

Joi watches him get hit on by Madame and the prostitute and learns an android gave birth. Breeding and androids practicing the kind of intimacy in relationships humans do grants these AI souls and that convinces Joi employing her "synch unto a physical body for sex" feature is a gift that would bring them both closer to being real, or at least their love.

I think it was that prostitute because she was a good spy who didn't get scared off at the market and provoked some connection out of Joe so Joi reached out to her.
 
Mondo Freaks said:
Just got back from watching this in the theaters.

I didnt really like it and thought it was boring. Flame me but I thought Ghost in the Shell was better.

5/10
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What you give Gits? I had it at a 6/10, I believe (it deserved a better fate theatrically).

But anyway, I saw both Gits and BR2049 in true IMAX and I can't agree. BR 2049 was better in every capacity.

Most significantly, BR2049 does a much better job of meditating on the questions of AI, and the meaning of life then Gits does.
 
Buddy Revell said:
What you give Gits? I had it at a 6/10, I believe (it deserved a better fate theatrically).

But anyway, I saw both Gits and BR2049 in true IMAX and I can't agree. BR 2049 was better in every capacity.

Most significantly, BR2049 does a much better job of meditating on the questions of AI, and the meaning of life then Gits does.
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For sure and this is a time where I'll admit that my tastes look bad. I can understand why people enjoyed Blade Runner 2049 and why it got good reviews. The visuals were amazing and the story wasnt too bad.

But it just wasnt enjoyable for me. Too long, scenes dragged on, Gosling had a constipated look half the time, Ford and Leto were barely in the movie. The pacing just ruined it for me.

I gave Ghost in the Shell 7/10. Better action and I enjoyed the AI concepts. But like I said, I can understand why people like Blade Runner and I know that I'm in a minority that didnt like the movie.
 
Yeah, it was right where James Woods had flung it.

Spawned_Fighter said:
When Joi synced with the pro, it reminded me alot of Samantha using a surrogate
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That's a phenomenal sequence. Whenever I hear people say that scene doesn't really go anywhere, I'm like, "Are you kidding me? DID YOU SEE ALL THEM HANDS?????"

 
Mondo Freaks said:
For sure and this is a time where I'll admit that my tastes look bad. I can understand why people enjoyed Blade Runner 2049 and why it got good reviews. The visuals were amazing and the story wasnt too bad.

But it just wasnt enjoyable for me. Too long, scenes dragged on, Gosling had a constipated look half the time, Ford and Leto were barely in the movie. The pacing just ruined it for me.

I gave Ghost in the Shell 7/10. Better action and I enjoyed the AI concepts. But like I said, I can understand why people like Blade Runner and I know that I'm in a minority that didnt like the movie.
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In a direct comparison, I suppose the bad guy in Gits, the Michael Pitt character, was handled better than Jared Leto's baddie. And the last set piece involving the Spider Tank was wicked. But everything else went BR's way for me.

A funny thing is... while I've seen the original BR movie, I merely though it was okay. Script wise, directing, and editing wise, 2049 is a significant improvement (imo).

But I can see how you would find a 165 minute movie that seemingly isn't in a hurry slow and boring.

So many films nowadays have quick cuts meant to create the illusion that something is happening, when it's not, and tension is building, when it's not. BR2049 has a great story to tell, and it just lets the thing breath...
Not your fault you didn't love it.
 
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