Movies BLADE RUNNER 2049 Thread v.2

If you have seen BLADE RUNNER 2049, how would you rate it?

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Ana de armas looks good in the trailers

Boner city pop.1
 
Blade runner may be my all-time favorite film, I remember being transfixed by the box cover at the video store in about 84

I really hope they don't fuck this up


Edit: reading above I can barely comprehend someone not liking Blade runner
 
Bubzeh said:
Ah man, I keep getting bored watching the first Bladerunner. Got 10 mins through then 25 mins through and it's just not me. Can't go watching the new one if I've not seen the old one...
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Lol. It usually takes me 4-5 days to watch it in full. Get easily distracted and then leave it for later and later.
Its like reading a book, can only do so much before moving on to something else.
 
AnGrYcRoW said:
Blade runner may be my all-time favorite film, I remember being transfixed by the box cover at the video store in about 84

I really hope they don't fuck this up


Edit: reading above I can barely comprehend someone not liking Blade runner
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Yeah I'm at a loss here. People having trouble watching the first Blade Runner? Are we talking about the same movie?

It's one of the best sci-fi movies of all time... it isn't hyper-paced but it isn't slow either. You guys need to sit your ass down and watch the damn movie, you'll be extremely glad you did.

I'd be tempted to criticize you punks more heavily but I like most of you so we'll chalk it up to something today's society something smartphones something something shorter attention spans.

It's a great movie with great action scenes but by the end it is elevated to classic status because thematically it raises many thought-provoking questions.
 
The Catch-Wrestler said:
Yeah I'm at a loss here. People having trouble watching the first Blade Runner? Are we talking about the same movie?

It's one of the best sci-fi movies of all time... it isn't hyper-paced but it isn't slow either. You guys need to sit your ass down and watch the damn movie, you'll be extremely glad you did.

I'd be tempted to criticize you punks more heavily but I like most of you so we'll chalk it up to something today's society something smartphones something something shorter attention spans.

It's a great movie with great action scenes but by the end it is elevated to classic status because thematically it raises many thought-provoking questions.
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Probably down to expectations, its not exactly impenetrable art-house cinema but I'm guessing a lot of people think it will be an action thriller where than mostly an atmospheric character piece.
 
The Catch-Wrestler said:
Yeah I'm at a loss here. People having trouble watching the first Blade Runner? Are we talking about the same movie?

It's one of the best sci-fi movies of all time... it isn't hyper-paced but it isn't slow either. You guys need to sit your ass down and watch the damn movie, you'll be extremely glad you did.

I'd be tempted to criticize you punks more heavily but I like most of you so we'll chalk it up to something today's society something smartphones something something shorter attention spans.

It's a great movie with great action scenes but by the end it is elevated to classic status because thematically it raises many thought-provoking questions.
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I was thinking about this as I was drifting off last night

I'm guessing part of the issue is that some are expecting an all out action movie which it isn't

Also it's been copied so much that if someone is watching it for the first time today it just isn't the same as seeing years ago when nothing looked or sounded anything like it

I wonder if it being set in 2019 throws people off , I showed it to a group of 17 year olds about 10 years ago and I remember them laughing at that
 
Besides hardcore movie fans, is this movie getting any buzz? I think this will be Villenueve's 1st financial flop.
 
I think Blade Runner just made film noir themes more accessible to then modern audiences. I think this new one is going to be what Aliens is to Alien: dump the existential crises and pack it with more spectacle.
 
That's backwards. Noir had already been established by the fifties. It was all they had. Cyberpunk and serious sci fi were the novelties.

PaleMoonlight said:
Besides hardcore movie fans, is this movie getting any buzz? I think this will be Villenueve's 1st financial flop.
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Maybe because of production budget? His films don't really storm the charts but comparatively are smaller scale.
 
fightingrabbit said:
So Deckard wasn't a replicant then.
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Deckard is proven NOT to be a replicant in the book, and furthermore, the potency of P.K.D.'s original storyline/plot completely falls apart if Deckard is a replicant. Blade Runner happens to be my favorite science fiction film of all time, but it was rank Hollywood dumbassery for the screenplay to suggest that Deckard is a replicant.
 
Secret Agent said:
Maybe because of production budget? His films don't really storm the charts but comparatively are smaller scale.
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Yeah this is probably his biggest budget. It just seems like I remember Sicario and Arrival having more buzz this.

Maybe the release date too - weird seeing it released in October when I'm expecting horror flicks. Not sci fi.
 
Secret Agent said:
BLADE RUNNER is not an easy movie to love.
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Which is a reality that I have often had trouble accepting, because it became an immediate favorite of mine. I consider it one of the greatest moments in cinema history.

Kind of tangential to that, I love this statement by cyberpunk godfather William Gibson:

After viewing the first 20 minutes of landmark cyberpunk film Blade Runner (1982), which was released when Gibson had written a third of the novel, he "figured [Neuromancer] was sunk, done for. Everyone would assume I’d copied my visual texture from this astonishingly fine-looking film."
 
PaleMoonlight said:
It just seems like I remember Sicario and Arrival having more buzz this.
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You could be right; I'm rather insulated from most movie buzz since I get most my information from Dragon, and the random bits I get in advance of him is usually confined to stuff I'm already interested in anyway. The most pop I heard leading into ARRIVAL came from my own mouth; I was really anticipating that 'un.

deltapapha said:
.... rank Hollywood dumbassery for the screenplay to suggest that Deckard is a replicant.
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Why's that?

Not to say that he is or isn't -- and I believe 2049 won't make any definitive statements either -- I just want to hear why you think Deckard as replicant is a dog that don't hunt.

deltapapha said:
Which is a reality that I have often had trouble accepting, because it became an immediate favorite of mine. I consider it one of the greatest moments in cinema history.
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What struck you the most?
 
Secret Agent said:
You could be right; I'm rather insulated from most movie buzz since I get most my information from Dragon, and the random bits I get in advance of him is usually confined to stuff I'm already interested in anyway. The most pop I heard leading into ARRIVAL came from my own mouth; I was really anticipating that 'un.


Why's that?

Not to say that he is or isn't -- and I believe 2049 won't make any definitive statements either -- I just want to hear why you think Deckard as replicant is a dog that don't hunt.


What struck you the most?
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Where is the ethical/moral dilemma/tension in the story if it is a replicant hunting replicants? Where is the possibility of inhumanity in that?

(I didn't get this from anywhere I just thought of it) But Imagine if in the film Schindler's List, Oskar Schindler was actually pure ethnic Jewish rather than ethnic German? Then his character arc loses its potency and meaning, and you kind of don't really have the same sort of story. This is also what makes Oskar kissing the Jewish girl at the party so interesting and conflicting. In the same way Deckard falling in love with an android completely loses its potency if Deckard is just another android.

I mean it boggles my mind how R.Scott could have toyed around with this. It would be like walking up to Van Gogh's Starry Night with a brush and palette and adding a little touching up.

As to why I think it is a history making cinematic masterpiece. Let me think some more on that.
 
The review embargo has been moved from Monday to tomorrow Friday 29th 6am PST.
 
deltapapha said:
Where is the ethical/moral dilemma/tension in the story if it is a replicant hunting replicants? Where is the possibility of inhumanity in that?

(I didn't get this from anywhere I just thought of it) But Imagine if in the film Schindler's List, Oskar Schindler was actually pure ethnic Jewish rather than ethnic German? Then his character arc loses its potency and meaning, and you kind of don't really have the same sort of story. This is also what makes Oskar kissing the Jewish girl at the party so interesting and conflicting. In the same way Deckard falling in love with an android completely loses its potency if Deckard is just another android.
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I don't quite see how it would negate tension since BLADE RUNNER doesn't maintain the racial distinction that SCHINDLER'S LIST does. I would like to hear more, tho.

On one level BLADE RUNNER is about the changing criteria of what it means to be human, getting away from the biological convention. The story endeavors toward synthesis rather than disparateness.

"You and me, we're the same," I feel, does not impede the ethical dilemma of subjugating a people. I think it's a poignant aspect that a man discovers he is hunting his own people and never realized it until now. But this is due in large part to the fact he doesn't really know it until the end. What I love about twist endings -- not saying that BLADE RUNNER qualifies -- is that they add a new layer of meaning to the preceding events, and I don't like "throwing away" the initial interpretation either. Thereby, BLADE RUNNER exists in my mind like a Schroedinger Cat -- comprising all interpretations combined, including the contrary ones.
 
So I just saw it...I am a die hard fan... @HeLLMuTT ...unbiased 8...biased 10...enjoy it my friend...
 
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