BJJ grappling Khabib vs Gordon Ryan

[Mulletenthusiast]

Yeah I'm sure 19 year old 155er Khabib who had never done trained bjj would've had a lot of trouble with HW multiple time world champion, present day, Gordon Ryan

Don't think that's much if a debate

Well, i think isn't much a debate Khabib vs any high level BJJ competitor. Leonid Gatovisky is far from being on the top echelons of grappling(and he was a brown belt at the time). I really don't care if Khabib was 18. His prime version would get smoke by any of the top 10 grapplers.

 

[gracie_barra_samurai]

Gordon Ryan is the type of American that radical Muslim terrorists have nightmares about & piss themselves in their sleep

Imagine how quick the Taliban would have folded if they saw gordan Ryan butt scooting towards them

 

[tastaylvr]

Who gives a fuck about bjj?

it’s like boxers thinking they can win in the ufc

What a disgusting thread

 

[tastaylvr]

Imagine how quick the Taliban would have folded if they saw gordan Ryan butt scooting towards them

there is not one American soldier who would call the afghans a bunch of cowards let alone the Taliban lol

Taliban were fighting the greatest army in human history with fucking stones

 

[campbecc]

Khabib is a combat sambo fighter taking away his ability to throw strikes hinders him greatly, he is not a pure grappler. He loses to any really good grappler if he can't throw strikes. They are in a lot of trouble if he can.

 

[tastaylvr]

Gordon Ryan probably makes more money than 98% of UFC fighters just selling BJJ instructional videos lol

gordon Ryan would also get his head kicked in anyone in his ufc weight division

Boxers make more money too who gives a duck

this is about fighting and Gordon Ryan is not a fighter

let’s not even start on the juicing either

 

[tastaylvr]

Yeah and I could beat Khabib and Gordon both in da streetz without all that pussy-ass cuddlin' if I had a gun!!1!

^About as relevant to the thread premise as your own post.




Yeah, so fringe that these guys are able to make a living competing solely in it at the highest level these days and getting their "Superfights" shown on UFC Fight Pass. It's not as popular as MMA, but it's growing much like amateur wrestling is.

Ryan is a better grappler than Khabib... within his ruleset of no-gi submission grappling, i.e. the one being discussed here. Much like Jordan Burroughs is a better grappler in the ruleset of freestyle wrestling than Khabib.

Furthermore, Gordon has discussed the idea of transitioning to MMA in the past, but refuses to do so out of respect for his coach and mentor John Danaher who has advised him to continue dominating/representing the sport of BJJ... one where he is making great money without the need to take MMA kinds of damage or be required learn tons of other skills to be competitive.

people make money sucking dick too who gives a fook

this is a fucking mma forum

bjj has already been proven to be irrelevant

 

[B0l0joe]

Khabib is so dangerous because he combines grappling and gnp against the cage.

I’m sure his pure grappling is excellent but against a man who is so big, juiced and technical I doubt khabib has any chance of winning. Don’t forget when Gordon swept Josh Barnett and triangled him like it was nothing.

 

[BlueCat]

Imagine how quick the Taliban would have folded if they saw gordan Ryan butt scooting towards them

Yeah that would’ve ended things quick but it probably would’ve been some sort of war crime or violation against humanity

 

[Safton]

gordon Ryan would also get his head kicked in anyone in his ufc weight division

Boxers make more money too who gives a duck

this is about fighting and Gordon Ryan is not a fighter

let’s not even start on the juicing either

Who gives a fuck about bjj?

it’s like boxers thinking they can win in the ufc

What a disgusting thread

people make money sucking dick too who gives a fook

Kinda sounds like you're projecting, Sherbro...

this is a fucking mma forum

bjj has already been proven to be irrelevant

Don't whinge to me about this subject being discussed on an MMA subforum, I'm not the OP.

Yeah so irrelevant that every professional MMA fighter trains in it and that it has developed into its own professional sport, with multiple champions and Top 15 fighters in each major organization having a base in it. Yeah 100% totally pointless art, might as well be Aikido.

 

[B0l0joe]

That's a very interesting one.

Marcelo is one of the GOATs but he was from a slightly older time (not that long ago) and is considerably smaller and weaker than Khabib.

Khabib might just have the strength, size, and skill to neutralize him.

Dude Marcelo isn’t that small. He might not be tall but he is thick and has big legs. He was a ww/mw and tapped out a lot of bigger guys than himself.

 

[UFConFOX]

Why do you think we don't hear Javier say the same things about other AKA fighters? He's trained several top contenders and champions. He's trained a literal double champ who is a viable top 5 GOAT contender and a HW who was viewed as a top 2 divisional GOAT.

I think your criticism of out-of-context 10 second clips is entirely fair. However, we've had ADCC champs come out and confirm some of the Khabib/Islam stuff so I think dismissing that out of hand is perhaps a bit strong although I understand the skepticism.

The real point though is why would Javier keep saying Khabib has never lost a round or sparring session and he taps ADCC champs? He's had plenty of opportunity to say that about anyone else. Never has. That means something for me. If it was just a few times or in the buildup to a big fight to perhaps hype his guy I'd dismiss it. But we're now on year 5 or so of Javier saying Khabib has never lost a round. And we're on year/time 0 of Javier saying that about any of his other top fighters or Champions (including Islam).

As far as the topic it's ridiculous and not worth a response; but your post was.

Khabib and Islam would both get submitted by Kade Ruotolo who's their size, let's not even talk about Gordon Ryan it would be a joke.

Khabib is great but these 8 second clips of them looking good vs Olympians yet we have never seen them in an actual wrestling match. These gym stories of them consistently tapping ADCC champions yet for whatever reason Khabib never competed in the ADCCs? Oh and apparently Khabib trains at a kickboxing academy but never loses rounds to elite strikers, coulda been a Glory champ if he wanted. I have begun to feel his camp is a little selective about matchmaking and has realized that promoting himself and his guys as unbeatable is a great tactic but it's begun to feel very manufactured to me.

 

[fightfan70]

he would have his hands full with dillon danis in a pure grappling match much less the goat

 

[Blayt7hh]

Come on dude. Gordon is the BJJ GOAT, in his prime, and spends all day every focused on specifically that skill. Khabib's MMA grappling is a completely different thing. Not to mention Gordon is way, way bigger than Khabib. There's really zero intrigue in this.... Gordon would do whatever he wants to Khabib in a BJJ match.

I dont know that I would characterize it as a very different thing. To be sure, Khabib is an extremely talented bjj artist. Ive seen videos of him rolling with bjj studs in the gym, his skills are top shelf. If he focused on submission grappling, he could probably win.... At his weight class. Gordon is not in his weight class. Gordon would smash him

 

[JustBleed69]

Gordon would absolutely massacre him. Khabib would obviously have his way with him in the takedowns aspect, but once it hit the ground Gordon would submit Khabib quickly.

 

[Blayt7hh]

if they were the same size khabib would beat him in a mma or a real street fight where you can actually throw punches.

Kind of a dumb meme when said BJJ guy droped Justin on the feet

 

[mmadeewana]

Facts: He scared Burns so bad burns hasn’t fought since.

I remember Jorge refusing to fight him.

 

[Luckyme]

Anyone else would love to see this? I understand Gordon is the GOAT, but Khabib's mystical aura, rumors grappling and almost lifetime undefeated record in combat would make this a must-watch. I would pay top PPV dollars to see it, how about you bros? It's not that much of a fantasy matchup either since Khabib promised his mom he wouldn't fight MMA again. If there's enough fan interest in it, we can make it happen like Conor and Floyd. Let's go bros!

You're comparing apples to oranges. Even if we disregard the obvious size disparity, Gordan Ryan is a BJJ specialist and Khabib comes from Combat Sambo. Two totally different sports with different rulesets.

Khabib's does wrestling-based grappling with striking while Gordon is used to being on his back and not having to worry about being punched. In a hypothetical match, the winner would be whoever the rules were favorable to.

The grappling match between Gordon and Bo Nickal is a great example. Gordon won under BJJ rules. But as Bo showed at one point when he suplexed Gordon, the outcome could have been different if freestyle or MMA rules were thrown in.

 

[vivi]

How much does Gordon Ryan outweigh Khabib by? He looks huge.
This would be an easy submission for Ryan. Either way, while it’s not MMA I’m sure Khabibs mom wouldn’t consent to Khabib competing against someone who could, and very likely would, rip his leg off.

 

[Hypetrainofthemonth]

I think, therefore i am.

Okay Dildo Dannis.