BJJ grappling Khabib vs Gordon Ryan

[Royce's Gi]

who cares. if i beat 29 men in a row i would think i am unbeatable too

Thinking and Being are not the same.

 

[HuskySamoan]

who cares. if i beat 29 men in a row i would think i am unbeatable too

It's like discussing Joe Calzaghe in terms of MW great boxers, only a clown would say "he was never beaten therefore he's unbeatable" there's a reason why people with undefeated records are betting underdogs all the time. Being unbeaten and being unbeatable are two very different things. I care, that's why we are having this conversation. If you don't, you can shut your computer off or Chuck your phone in a puddle.

 

[Johnny_Knuckles]

Khabibi by GnP imo

 

[fortheo]

Khabib and Islam would both get submitted by Kade Ruotolo who's their size, let's not even talk about Gordon Ryan it would be a joke.

Khabib is great but these 8 second clips of them looking good vs Olympians yet we have never seen them in an actual wrestling match. These gym stories of them consistently tapping ADCC champions yet for whatever reason Khabib never competed in the ADCCs? Oh and apparently Khabib trains at a kickboxing academy but never loses rounds to elite strikers, coulda been a Glory champ if he wanted. I have begun to feel his camp is a little selective about matchmaking and has realized that promoting himself and his guys as unbeatable is a great tactic but it's begun to feel very manufactured to me.

I honestly never thought you'd come around to see things that way. I was always a huge Khabib fan, but yeah, the gym stories from that team and just the way they promote themselves in general has become a big show at this point. It reminds me of ronda being able to beat cain under the right circumstances and dropping pro boxers with body shots lol. I think it helps build an aura around them, though, and it's a type of mental warfare that their opponents need to deal with.

 

[Rust Cohle]

A better match up would be Khabib vs Marcelo García, Gordon is too much.

 

[BJJ Lover]

Kind of stupid.

LW vs. HW.

MMA grappler vs. BJJ specialist.

It's like doing Canelo Alvarez vs. Francis Ngannou but in MMA. like, why?

Khabib's grappling is MMA-oriented.

Some of the stuff he does, like this:

have minimal benefits in BJJ but a lot in MMA.

If he dedicated 2 decades of his life to BJJ instead of MMA he'll be the GOAT there but that's not what he did.

 

[2EZ]

Thinking and Being are not the same.

I think, therefore i am.

 

[BJJ Lover]

A better match up would be Khabib vs Marcelo García, Gordon is too much.

That's a very interesting one.

Marcelo is one of the GOATs but he was from a slightly older time (not that long ago) and is considerably smaller and weaker than Khabib.

Khabib might just have the strength, size, and skill to neutralize him.

 

[2EZ]

It's like discussing Joe Calzaghe in terms of MW great boxers, only a clown would say "he was never beaten therefore he's unbeatable" there's a reason why people with undefeated records are betting underdogs all the time. Being unbeaten and being unbeatable are two very different things. I care, that's why we are having this conversation. If you don't, you can shut your computer off or Chuck your phone in a puddle.

No thanks

 

[BJJ Lover]

I think, therefore i am.

More like = I think I am a doctor, therefore I am a doctor = wrong

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Size and Gordon being a specialist is too much

You know what guys, I would love to see Poatan box Fury too lol

Edit

I'd like to see Gordon v Sadualev or Riner on concrete

 

[Safton]

This would be like if Conor had left the sport after beating Eddie and instead of calling out Floyd in 2017 he decided to go after someone like Anthony Joshua or Rico Verhoeven in each man's respective sport. It only ends one way.

 

[The_Demon_In_Me]

Why? That "strength and Judo pressure" didn't keep Gordon from tapping other monstrous Heavyweights (many of which were UFC veterans) with contemptuous ease, many of which come from Sambo, wrestling, or Judo backgrounds. Gordon toyed with Alexei Oleinik (before he was a totally shopworn mess) and kneebarred him in a little over one minute. He triangled Josh Barnett off his back. He heel hooked Gabriel Gonzaga in a minute flat. He's also no stranger to beating strong wrestlers: he's beaten Nicky Rod (former collegiate wrestler and athletic freak of nature) multiple times, tapped Bo Nickal in a mixed-rules match where he wasn't even able to use leg-locks and where Bo could score with takedowns, and also submitted Pat Downey (US National freestyle wrestling champion). John Danaher's guys are known for incorporating an extensive amount of wrestling and Judo into their games compared to other sport BJJ guys; it's why they use terms from the Judo syllabus for many of their techniques.

On top of that all that, there's the teensy elephant in the room that Gordon walks around at 6'2" ~220 pounds (or higher) and is juiced to the fucking gills. In MMA terms, if he was cutting weight he'd be a monstrous Middleweight or a solid Light Heavyweight. With some additional bulk packed on he'd be a small Heavyweight a la Tanner Boser, Chris Daukaus, or Jailton Almeida.

Gordon would take Khabib's leg home in his gym bag inside the distance. Or choke him out. Whatever he wanted to do, really.

Yes i'm not underestimate Gordon, Gordon is really good, but to me, Khabib is a different animal, his father was one of the best olympic sambo Judo coach in the URSS, khabib always trained with sambo and Judo competitors plus his cousins (the New gracie family nowadays)

Also khabib compited in some naga championships.

To me Khabib would make Gordon pass a bad time

 

[Safton]

Yes i'm not underestimate Gordon, Gordon is really good, but to me, Khabib is a different animal, his father was one of the best olympic sambo Judo coach in the URSS, khabib always trained with sambo and Judo competitors plus his cousins (the New gracie family nowadays)

Also khabib compited in same naga championships.

To me Khabib would make Gordon pass a bad time

Literally none of that matters. I have nothing but respect for Abdulmanap and the stable of top-tier fighters he built, but that does not confer any type of mystical abilities upon his students. Not even Khabib.

Have you spent much time in BJJ competing or otherwise? Because if you have you should know that NAGA Worlds is to the ADCC World Championship (especially the Absolute Division) what a regional amateur MMA show behind your local sports bar is to a five-round UFC title Superfight at Madison Square Garden. There's no comparison in terms of talent pool, level of competition, or prestige. Don't get me wrong, NAGA is good and has some solid grapplers who compete there, but it's a very small pond compared to the shark-filled ocean that is ADCC, IBJJF Worlds, EBI, Quintets, and other competitions that Gordon has frequently dominated. Besides, Gordon has competed at NAGA as well -- he won the World Championship as a developing Purple Belt in the gi and the Worlds No-Gi in the Expert Division in 2015.

As I said above: Khabib has none of the tools necessary to give Gordon "a bad time" on the mats any more than Conor would have possessed the tools to go knock out Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder, Artem Vakhitov, or Rico Verhoeven in the ring back in 2017. And frankly that's a similar ask to what you're expecting here.

 

[JumJum]

Khabib is LW while Gordon is Super heavyweight. It's dumb as cejudo vs Francis.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

All of Dagestan could wear their cool shirt about bjj but I don't think the entire Caucasus will ever produce a grappler that would make Gordon sweat.

 

[Elvis.]

In a straight grappling match I think a lot of people would be surprised how easy Gordon wins this

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Gordon has like 50lbs on Khabib and is a better pure sub grappler, huge mismatch.

 

[humdizzle]

if they were the same size khabib would beat him in a mma or a real street fight where you can actually throw punches.

 

[Hdfi]

Gordon is on another level and he's a heavyweight...