BJ PENN TRAINED 3 TIMES A WEEK?

[Frode Falch]

You really don't need to train that much. Better to train less with more intensity. You are training for a fight that is 5 mins for 3 or 5 rounds, not for a fight of 6 days 2 times a day. Without PEDs you can't train that much with any real high intensity. Your body wouldn't be able to recover fast enough. That means to train like that you would be training a low intensity and mostly going through the motions just to prevent over training. If you look at boxers training they don't train like that. They run in the morning and they'll spar/pad work in the afternoon. Adding any real strength and conditioning work to that type of 6 days a week 2 times a day schedule is just asking for over training without PEDs. Any real strength and conditioning work would require more recovery time if done naturally.

People will say they need to learn as much as they can so they are working on techniques during that time. Which is understandable, but from what I see, most teach the same stuff all week so it's just repetitive training mostly. If you can pick up on things faster, you don't really need to train 6 days a week 2 times a day. But if that's what they feel they need then that's what people will do. I do better training less with more focus and intensity in my training sessions instead. I like to train how I fight, so I don't like low intensity work because that's not how I fight. I want my training to be able to transfer into my actual fighting style.

You need moderate high volume training. Thats what fighters who stay in shape do it.

Top boxers, the thai fighters, russian wrestlers, ect

Just about everybody who stay in shape year round..

Only at the last few weeks before a fight, at the end of a training camp, you would up the intensivity (spelling?), And cut back on the lenght of the sessions.

 

[Leviticus]

A few weeks before my first muay thai fight i was drinking and doing cocaine - i had insane cardio back then.

Anyway, most fighters overtrain to the point of death like Dillashaw vs Cejudo or Dominic Cruz generally.

 

[Snoowpy]

GSP had this thing where they measured the reactions of every fighter. BJ Penn had the best reactions out of any of his opponents. If only he could push himself to train like his peers. He was disappointing at times. But I liked to see greatness in action. So the moments like him taking care of Diego after his condition with those brothers were special. He was my favorite fighter, great BJJ, TDD and fast hands. He could scratch his ears with his legs, no problem. No problem with going up in weight. But the guy was also a meth junkie, didn't train and refused to put in the work others did. It's a shame.

 

[AB234]

Poor guy put minimal effort then blamed others for his failure to keep up with the sport. What a sad mind.

 

[Fedor5723]

Crazy to imagine this was one of the best fighters of his time...

Physically but no doubt the pool jump showed amazing athleticism

 

[ryun253]

Physically but no doubt the pool jump showed amazing athleticism

Yeah, his pool jump is !@#$ing insane

 

[randomg1t]

i read penn's book from a few years back. he talks about how he trained when he was a kid.

early in his career, when he started off with jiu jitsu, he was obsessed. he trained all the time. same thing when he switched to MMA. a bunch of people at AKA were really impressed with how much time he put into it and how quickly he was picking things up. i remember frank shamrock saying they would drill one sequence a day, BJ would do it some ridiculous amount of times (like 500 reps or some shit) and then it would stick in his arsenal for ever.

it was later that he got this whole "lazy" reputation.

 

[randomg1t]

What accomplishments??? His biggest win streak was 5... 5 fucking wins... LOL.. Held whatever belt he won for 10 secs because like I said he had no heart to keep working in the gym and push himself.

He has 14 LOSSES and 16 WINS.. he is a .500 fighter.. I know this is where you use " he wasn't motivated in his losses ", " oh he was so tough fighting outside his weight class " excuse.. No was he was a lazy fuck that didn't like adversity. the dude had no heart and is overrated

fastest american to become a black belt. first non brazillian winner of jiu jitsu world championships at black belt, weeks after being promoted to black belt.

lightweight world champion. welterweight world champion. only the second man in history to hold the title in 2 different weight classes. oh, and has fought all the way from 145 to heavyweight.

yeah, no accomplishments whatsoever there.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Imagine if he had learned from ted lasso instead

Led Tasso's impersonation of Iverson was gold.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

You need moderate high volume training. Thats what fighters who stay in shape do it.

Top boxers, the thai fighters, russian wrestlers, ect

Just about everybody who stay in shape year round..

Only at the last few weeks before a fight, at the end of a training camp, you would up the intensivity (spelling?), And cut back on the lenght of the sessions.

Yes I understand that, but year round 6 days a week, 2 times a day is not maintainable without PEDs. Plus that's just over doing it in my opinion. Recovery is just as important as the constant drilling and strength and conditioning work. If they are doing it just to drill, I would rather drill a full day instead of doing it 1 hour a day a couple days a week. You will get more done in that one day for that specific drill/technique than scattering it multiple times a week. More focused training is what I focus on. I don't like going through the motions just to go through the motions.

I understand everyone is different, and if they do better with that type of training then more power to them. I do things differently and improve at a faster rate, so that's why I think my method works better. Takes me less time to be able to do the same things that takes others longer to do with their current training systems. To me they are overdoing it and just going through the motions most of the time, or overloading themselves with information from the different martial arts so they are not retaining as much as they should be from those sessions. So to me it's not really the best type of training. Their intensity is low and that transfers over to their fighting. That's why a lot fight with a sparring type of pace/intensity. People tend to fight the way they train.

 

[Frode Falch]

Yes I understand that, but year round 6 days a week, 2 times a day is not maintainable without PEDs. Plus that's just over doing it in my opinion. Recovery is just as important as the constant drilling and strength and conditioning work. If they are doing it just to drill, I would rather drill a full day instead of doing it 1 hour a day a couple days a week. You will get more done in that one day for that specific drill/technique than scattering it multiple times a week. More focused training is what I focus on. I don't like going through the motions just to go through the motions.

I understand everyone is different, and if they do better with that type of training then more power to them. I do things differently and improve at a faster rate, so that's why I think my method works better. Takes me less time to be able to do the same things that takes others longer to do with their current training systems. To me they are overdoing it and just going through the motions most of the time, or overloading themselves with information from the different martial arts so they are not retaining as much as they should be from those sessions. So to me it's not really the best type of training. Their intensity is low and that transfers over to their fighting. That's why a lot fight with a sparring type of pace/intensity. People tend to fight the way they train.

Yes it is. But you dont train your body into dead state.

Moderate high volume. Not crazy hard training.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

Yes it is. But you dont train your body into dead state.

Moderate high volume. Not crazy hard training.

Depends on the goals. When you fight, you fight to a dead state. So I like to get used to that state, because to me it's more related to what I actually feel in a fight. Plus you can increase the amount of work required to get you into a dead state. That won't be done by moderate style training/conditioning. But everyones different, maybe what works for me won't work for others. I modify my training when I teach others as well depending on how their bodies react to the training. So training is never a one size fits all.

 

[GOATtalks]

I was looking up some old JD Penn (Penn's brother) and Todd Marinovich ( Penn's S&C coach) stuff about 3 weeks ago. Most fighters train 3 to 2 times a day 6 days a week. But I read somewhere BJ trained 3 times a Week? No supplements and no special diet.. Any truth to that? Can someone dig up the article? This makes BJ the true GOAT.

Edit: Ironically BJ Penn just posted this on his Instagram!View attachment 895362

Cliffs: Basically saying he thought training was always supposed to reach a goal and didn't know it has benefits on its own especially mentally.

If anything, that only shows how bad the competition was back then

 

[Viking Power]

a lot of the things that people always say "if only they didn't/did do this, they'd be great" is also why they're as good as they are. it's a double edged sword. like Jon Jones and his habitual criminality. people always say "if he wasn't such a fuck up he could be the undoubted GOAT" but the problem is, that don't give a fuck attitude outside of the ring is also what makes him good inside of the ring.

same with BJ. the things that makes him wild and crazy outside of the ring, is also what makes him wild and crazy inside of it. nobody is perfect and a lot of times your gift is your curse too.

That’s an interesting take on this bro. Kinda just blew my mind.

 

[MarleyLynx]

Imagine if BJ trained like the average Sherdog poster.

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Did I say you could use pictures of me?

 

[MarleyLynx]

Yes I understand that, but year round 6 days a week, 2 times a day is not maintainable without PEDs. Plus that's just over doing it in my opinion. Recovery is just as important as the constant drilling and strength and conditioning work. If they are doing it just to drill, I would rather drill a full day instead of doing it 1 hour a day a couple days a week. You will get more done in that one day for that specific drill/technique than scattering it multiple times a week. More focused training is what I focus on. I don't like going through the motions just to go through the motions.

I understand everyone is different, and if they do better with that type of training then more power to them. I do things differently and improve at a faster rate, so that's why I think my method works better. Takes me less time to be able to do the same things that takes others longer to do with their current training systems. To me they are overdoing it and just going through the motions most of the time, or overloading themselves with information from the different martial arts so they are not retaining as much as they should be from those sessions. So to me it's not really the best type of training. Their intensity is low and that transfers over to their fighting. That's why a lot fight with a sparring type of pace/intensity. People tend to fight the way they train.

I'm on that 2-3x a day 6 days a week life. Year round. No PED.
I do find when I cut my training I perform better though.
I just.... have no life

 

[FIghtxIQ]

I'm on that 2-3x a day 6 days a week life. Year round. No PED.
I do find when I cut my training I perform better though.
I just.... have no life

That's most likely due to over training. Recovery is just as important. Giving your mind a break as well is important. You are probably doing light to mid intensity as well, so your body is more used to that type of tempo/pacing/intensity. It won't be as used to high intensity because that's not what your training focuses on. I would switch things up on certain weeks if I was you. So you can work all intensity levels with your training.

 

[The UFC Brander Collector]

He was a prodigy

Progedgi

 

[KingBeef]

I did it on beer and hot dogs

But were they UFC branded hot dogs???

 

[MarleyLynx]

That's most likely due to over training. Recovery is just as important. Giving your mind a break as well is important. You are probably doing light to mid intensity as well, so your body is more used to that type of tempo/pacing/intensity. It won't be as used to high intensity because that's not what your training focuses on. I would switch things up on certain weeks if I was you. So you can work all intensity levels with your training.

For sure i'm over trained. I give recovery it's respect. I do the sauna everyday, nothing but cold showers and an ice bath 1-2 times a week.
I tried adding in a 2nd rest day but like I said I have no life so I just get way too bored.
The sparring is mild-medium intensity. Everything else is pretty high pace though.