Bisping tells the painful truth about Mighty Mouse!

JayE said:
Fight fixing definitely happens. To suggest it happened in any of those fights is hilarious. Do you acknowledge that you said something profoundly stupid?
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The only thing stupid here is your attack on me. If fight fixing happens, then why not those fights? Does it need to be a special fight? Do you need to be in attendance.

Did you even watch the McCall fight? Lol. McCall won that fight outright. That fight destroyed McCall's career. You might wanna ask yourself why?
 
DataBreach said:
It's a strawman when he picks and chooses from a pile of what I said to make that the focus.
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That is not what a strawman is. If you don't want to defend something you said then don't say it in the first place.
 
DataBreach said:
The only thing stupid here is your attack on me. If fight fixing happens, then why not those fights? Does it need to be a special fight? Do you need to be in attendance.

Did you even watch the McCall fight? Lol. McCall won that fight outright. That fight destroyed McCall's career. You might wanna ask yourself why?
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It's really odd that you are making these posts after the crying you did about my "opinions" earlier. Your opinion on who won that fight is irrelevant. You presented the idea that MM has won fixed fights. You have no evidence or good argument for this but want people to take it seriously for some reason.
 
IamStryker said:
That is not what a strawman is. If you don't want to defend something you said then don't say it in the first place.
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I never said the fight was a fix. I used the word sinister. Nothing more, nothing less.

It was you posting those lame NASA videos and this dork saying I said fight fix that's the definition of a strawman.

But I get it. You can't win the argument with logic so games are your only option.
 
IamStryker said:
It's really odd that you are making these posts after the crying you did about my "opinions" earlier. Your opinion on who won that fight is irrelevant. You presented the idea that MM has won fixed fights. You have no evidence or good argument for this but want people to take it seriously for some reason.
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Why do you feel then need to counter my posts to others? Can't he answer for himself? I used the word sinister. Nothing more, nothing less. Others brought up fixing and I addressed them. Then that was put on me.

I said sinister and others claimed I was implying fight fixing.
 
Bisping is right in the sense that the division has the same MMA ability as his daughter. There aren’t enough men on the planet who compete in MMA AND can cut to the child-like size of 125lbs to make that a legitimate division. It’s a joke.

You will not be able to find a 125lb fighter who isn’t in the UFC and has a Wikipedia lmao.

We have no criteria in which we can judge the clowns at the top of the 125lb division... Benavidez, Dodson, Mighty Mouse, etc because the rest of the division is such a joke. All we know is that Mighty Mouse has beaten everyone, and that Mighty Mouse can’t beat Brad Pickett. But he’s the GOAT.
Yeah, okay.
 
DataBreach said:
We'll see what happens. I don't agree with you at all. TJ does not need to perform in the 125 division to merit a fight at 125. That's your opinion.
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He has merit in terms of skill that's not what I am talking about. I am talking about DJ having obligation to fight him, which he doesn't. I don't know why you keep babbling about opinions. Yeah it's my opinion. So what?

DataBreach said:
The UFC and many fans such as myself don't agree with you. We want to see DJ fight a worthy contender. We believe TJ is that worthy contender. If DJ refuses to fight whom the UFC and many fans believe is the number one contender he deserves to be stripped.
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My opinions do not rely on what the UFC wants or "many fans". I would love to see DJ fight TJ as well, did I say that I didn't? I am just not going to pretend that a BW is a FW. It's very obvious TJ is only interested in flyweight for this one big fight.

DJ is not refusing he is negotiating. DJ has no obligation to this fight as I said before so the idea of stripping him is pure nonsense. It won't happen and it's a really dumb idea. You want to strip a long running champion because he hasn't yet fought a BW who ISN'T EVEN RANKED AT FLYWEIGHT. That's so absurd it's funny. I guess if DC didn't want to fight Stipe then the UFC could strip him as well right? lol

DataBreach said:
And It'll never come to that. DJ will eventually accept a fight with TJ or he'll be stripped. Not because he has defended 9 times... but because he won't defend a tenth time against a worthy contender. You see DJ being offered fights other than DJ.

Yeah, thought so, neither did I. UFC told him to get the surgery because it was TJ or no one.
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Nonsense. Here is a quote from DJ agreeing with me about number one contenders. https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/3/...-superfight-but-not-the-ufc-bantamweight-belt “At the end of the day, it’s a paycheck,” Johnson said. “If you’re going to make as much money as you are, when you’re fighting someone else, that’s the one thing I always tell people is I would never turn down the truly rightful No. 1 contender in my division, because the UFC can actually strip you. They can say, you’re not going to fight the No. 1 contender, we can strip you. So okay, you know what, Henry Cejudo is the No. 1 contender, we deem him the legit No. 1 contender, and then I’m going to fight him again blah blah blah, if he’s truly the No. 1 contender I will fight them.”

Give me a link backing your claim that the UFC told DJ that.
 
DataBreach said:
Why do you feel then need to counter my posts to others? Can't he answer for himself? I used the word sinister. Nothing more, nothing less. Others brought up fixing and I addressed them. Then that was put on me.

I said sinister and others claimed I was implying fight fixing.
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I respond to posts if I have something to say.
 
DataBreach said:
I never said the fight was a fix. I used the word sinister. Nothing more, nothing less.

It was you posting those lame NASA videos and this dork saying I said fight fix that's the definition of a strawman.

But I get it. You can't win the argument with logic so games are your only option.
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The NASA video was a joke, not an argument.

Your implication was pretty clear and you did eventually defend the idea of fight fixing so again where is the strawman?

DataBreach said:
If fight fixing happens, then why not those fights?
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Oh but you aren't making that claim right?
 
IamStryker said:
He has merit in terms of skill that's not what I am talking about. I am talking about DJ having obligation to fight him, which he doesn't. I don't know why you keep babbling about opinions. Yeah it's my opinion. So what?



My opinions do not rely on what the UFC wants or "many fans". I would love to see DJ fight TJ as well, did I say that I didn't? I am just not going to pretend that a BW is a FW. It's very obvious TJ is only interested in flyweight for this one big fight.

DJ is not refusing he is negotiating. DJ has no obligation to this fight as I said before so the idea of stripping him is pure nonsense. It won't happen and it's a really dumb idea. You want to strip a long running champion because he hasn't yet fought a BW who ISN'T EVEN RANKED AT FLYWEIGHT. That's so absurd it's funny. I guess if DC didn't want to fight Stipe then the UFC could strip him as well right? lol



Nonsense. Here is a quote from DJ agreeing with me about number one contenders. https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/3/...-superfight-but-not-the-ufc-bantamweight-belt “At the end of the day, it’s a paycheck,” Johnson said. “If you’re going to make as much money as you are, when you’re fighting someone else, that’s the one thing I always tell people is I would never turn down the truly rightful No. 1 contender in my division, because the UFC can actually strip you. They can say, you’re not going to fight the No. 1 contender, we can strip you. So okay, you know what, Henry Cejudo is the No. 1 contender, we deem him the legit No. 1 contender, and then I’m going to fight him again blah blah blah, if he’s truly the No. 1 contender I will fight them.”

Give me a link backing your claim that the UFC told DJ that.
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The UFC president Dana White has made it clear they will close the division:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...of-flyweight-division-over-tj-dillashaw-fight

Now they are negotiating. I absolutely believe there will be stiff ramifications if DJ refuses to fight TJ. The UFC is giving DJ time. They are being patient. Reasoning with DJ.

If DJ plays hardball they'll strip him and do exactly what I said. Let TJ fight for the strap. Just like when they created the division they allowed DJ to fight for the strap. I already said it. 9 defenses don't matter if you duck the 10th.

I don't see the UFC allowing DJ to the call the shots in a division they allowed just to cater to him. The division doesn't draw. If DJ refuses challenges that the UFC deem are worthy why should the UFC allow him to hold it hostage?

It makes no sense for the UFC.
 
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IamStryker said:
The NASA video was a joke, not an argument.

Your implication was pretty clear and you did eventually defend the idea of fight fixing so again where is the strawman?



Oh but you aren't making that claim right?
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Do you have no argument against the possibility and why DJ is so entitled?

It's a possibility the fight was fixed, not a fact. You made it a strawman fact by focusing on it and making it the center of attention. It was never my center of attention it was an an afterthought. Go back and read my initial post cupcake.

...but you needed to play games because you were losing the argument so I get it.
 
I haven't been a fan of DJ as of late as he's been clearly ducking TJ, but let's get it straight; DJ is pretty much the smallest guy in the UFC, all the guys he fights are bigger than him. Ellioth looked like he was 2 classes above him.

Bisping is wrong on this one.
 
DataBreach said:
The only thing stupid here is your attack on me. If fight fixing happens, then why not those fights? Does it need to be a special fight? Do you need to be in attendance.

Did you even watch the McCall fight? Lol. McCall won that fight outright. That fight destroyed McCall's career. You might wanna ask yourself why?
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Nice, it appears that you're doubling down. Do you think there is a distinct possibility that the McCall 1, Benavidez 1, and Dodson 1 were all fixed? Yes or no.
 
JayE said:
Nice, it appears that you're doubling down. Do you think there is a distinct possibility that the McCall 1, Benavidez 1, and Dodson 1 were all fixed? Yes or no.
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Possibility for McCall. No call on the other two.

And since you're ignoring all my other points I sued the word sinister in describing how those fights might have gone down. I also clearly said it might have been luck.

Since you're only willing to focus on an afterthought of mine, and not my core conversation ITT get lost.

No more talk about fixing. I don't care. It could have been dumb luck and bad judging.
 
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