Biggest robbery? GSP/Hendricks or Jones/Reyes?

[xmovingparts]

Shaddap.

Any man who is "relieved" a fight is over isn't even a fighter, he's the loser in his own heart.

The man who still wants to come after, and finish, his foe = THE BETTER MAN.

this shit is just insufferable, dude. do you also drive a squatted truck?

 

[Benoitthegr8]

Gomi versus Sanchez is still my top robbery in modern MMA, the fact that it happened on Gomi’s home soil or Saitama super arena just made it that much worse.

 

[RedDevilFan]

7 to 8 more significant strikes and much more impactful strikes too (because like you said, it's not stats alone) so he wins handily on striking. Plus 11 more attempted strikes, because he was attacking and getting Jones off of him with more volume, and had Jones literally run from him, so he wins aggression too. But Jones was in the center more often, so that's enough to overrule the other 2? That's not a serious suggestion


You keep counting wrong for one, and the striking clearly wasn't even.

4-7 more strikes is not significant and Reyes was not more impactful, it was a close third fight. Jones blocked a good majority of Reyes strikes in that round, and blocked a head kick as well which looked like it was impactful but it was not. As Scott states, it helps illustrate why Jones won the third. Reyes' low percentage speaks to Jones' ability to slip shots. The attmepted more strikes makes no sense. The idea you think Reyes was more impactful is not a criteria, the judges and many other objective outlets thought otherwise.

According to the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts, if striking and significant strikes are relatively even between fighters, and it was relatively even in the third, octagon control (or cage control) is considered as a tiebreaker,

 

[markg171]

Jones/Reyes for me. It was so easy even the casuals could see it. Reyes got the first 3, Jones got the last 2, and none of them were 10-8.

They really robbed Reyes of a life-changing moment there too. I mean Werdum and Weidman got to go down in history as the men who finally stopped the unstoppable. Reyes should be right there with them.

I mean the difference of course is Weidman and Werdum actually stopped the unstoppable by KOing and subbing them so there's zero doubt who was the better fighter. Especially after Weidman rematched Silva and stopped him again.

Wildly different than maybe winning by 1 round in a fight you ultimately lost because you didn't have the gas to win any of the champion rounds to make up for maybe winning the first 3. Could've been zero doubt about the scores by having at least multiple possibilities for your 3 rounds if he'd been able to win any of 4-5. Let alone pulling off a clear 4-1 or 5-0 shut down to make abundantly clear he was the better fighter.

Weidman and Werdum deserved their wins. Reyes has himself to blame for his loss. Just like the rest of his losses afterwards where he still fought so poorly and stupidly and caused his losses.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

7 more strikes is not significant and Reyes was not more impactful, it was a close third fight. The attmepted more strikes makes no sense. The idea you think Reyes was more impactful is not a criteria, the judges and many other objective outlets thought otherwise.

According to the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts, if striking and significant strikes are relatively even between fighters, octagon control (or cage control) should only be considered as a tiebreaker if all other factors like effective striking and grappling are also extremely close,

26 to 19 is fairly significant of a difference in fights, especially when a larger majority of that difference is body+head, and he was very clearly more impactful. There wasn't a single strike of Jon's that they could even pick up for the post round highlights, showing that all the big moments (in an only striking round) were Dom's. More impactful is literally the wordage of the scoring. It's expressing offensive effect geared towards immediate and cumulative fight completion. Dom snapped Jones back multiple times. He hit more and visibly harder. I already addressed the fake "many" who scored it for Jones, and yeah, 2 of the 3 judges thought otherwise for round 3, but when reviewed at a judges training course with the ABC, the coordinators and all 18 judges present scored it 48-47 Jon.

 

[filthynumber1]

I'm a big GSP fanboy.

But I scored it 48-47 Hendricks. I've rewatched this fight many times, and yeah Hendricks won.

The Jones fight I scored 48-47 Jones, but I'm not entirely sure of that and haven't seen the fight since it happened.

Gsp 135

 

[RedDevilFan]

26 to 19 is fairly significant of a difference in fights, especially when a larger majority of that difference is body+head, and he was very clearly more impactful. There wasn't a single strike of Jon's that they could even pick up for the post round highlights, showing that all the big moments (in an only striking round) were Dom's. More impactful is literally the wordage of the scoring. It's expressing offensive effect geared towards fight completion. Dom snapped Jones back multiple times. He hit more and visibly harder. I already addressed the fake "many" who scored it for Jones, and yeah, 2 of the 3 judges thought otherwise for round 3, but when reviewed at a judges training course with the ABC, the coordinators and all 18 judges present scored it 48-47 Jon.

Jones had a striking accuracy of 62 percent for Jones to Reyes' 44, which details the actual reality of the fight. Striking accuracy is a measure of a fighter's ability to land blows in a combat sport, and jon jones was more accurate than Reyes with landed strikes.

Which tells us that a good majority of Reyes strikes indeed did not land and that jones was the better defensive striker. In that third round, if you watched, you could see jones blocking a good majority of shots from Reyes such as a head kick that was blocked by jones that looked more impactful than it was. When the third is that close it went to the other scoring criterias which jones was ahead of and that edged him out in the round.

 

[Mittens]

He's not a smart man. The mods actually had to delete him fully doxxing himself at one point because he wanted to fight someone here for disagreeing with him. Personal website with his name, bio, and hobbies, picture of him and presumably his vehicle with license plate and everything. Just so dumb

And if that pic is him and not a 12 year old who pulled a random pic from the inetwebs, he just did it again + doxxed the lady he is with in the pic.

So either: "Twelve year olds...." or "Where do they find these folks?"

 

[mjoln]

GSP won that fight. You can blame rules, not judges. Hendrics was better fighter but GSP won 3 very close rounds and Hendrics won 2 rounds clearly but not by 10-8.

 

[tornado362]

Gsp 135

Yeah I had hendricks 1,2 and 4. But round 1 was super close

 

[BJJ4Tone]

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Jones had a striking accuracy, of 62 percent for Jones to Reyes' 44 percent in the third, which details the actual reality of the fight. Striking accuracy is a measure of a fighter's ability to land blows in a combat sport, and jon jones was more accurate than Reyes in the third with landed strikes.

Which tells us that a good majority of Reyes strikes were indeed not impactful and did not land.

What the fuck are you talking about?

First off, as was explained multiple times, accuracy is not a score, and is often actually a detriment for not being more aggressive/active

Secondly, you're using the TOTAL accuracy, which is not how you score a fight. As a matter of fact, the accuracy of round 3 was Jon at 55% and Dom at 57%, so even if you DO count accuracy, Dom wins AGAIN.

Thirdly, you're implying through some kind of unexplainable logic that Dom missing 19 of his strikes means the 26 he did land weren't impactful, but Jon only missing 15 strikes means his 19 landed strikes were more impactful and I can't even begin to explain how stupid that is.

 

[RedDevilFan]

What the fuck are you talking about?

First off, as was explained multiple times, accuracy is not a score, and is often actually a detriment for not being more aggressive/active

Secondly, you're using the TOTAL accuracy, which is not how you score a fight. As a matter of fact, the accuracy of round 3 was Jon at 55% and Dom at 57%, so even if you DO count accuracy, Dom wins AGAIN.

Thirdly, you're implying through some kind of unexplainable logic that Dom missing 19 of his strikes means the 26 he did land weren't impactful, but Jon only missing 15 strikes means his 19 landed strikes were more impactful and I can't even begin to explain how stupid that is.

Jones landed a higher percentage of his strikes overall compared to Reyes throughout the fight and that is what is being stated and why it was so close.

 

[NenadRS]

Jones had a striking accuracy, of 62 percent for Jones to Reyes' 44 percent in the third, which details the actual reality of the fight. Striking accuracy is a measure of a fighter's ability to land blows in a combat sport, and jon jones was more accurate than Reyes in the third with landed strikes.

Which tells us that a good majority of Reyes strikes were indeed not impactful and did not land.

Are you trolling hah. Accuracy does not matter at all in scoring, if anything, it is even better to have worse accuracy together with more significant strikes. That means more activity and pressure which is a factor in scoring.

By your "logic" throw one punch and have 100% accuracy and you win the round.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Jones landed a higher percentage of his strikes overall compared to Reyes throughout the fight and that is what is being stated and why it was so close.

It's not what's being stated because we're talking about scoring fights, which is by rounds. FIGHTS aren't close, rounds are. And the rounds in this fight weren't close

 

[Angelassassin53]

jones significant strikes 60 percent vs reyes 40 percent
jones almost crippled reyes

big difference when hendricks still wanna fight gsp
and reyes tryna survive the last rounds

Total strikes landed >>> the accuracy of the strikes lmao

It's a fucking fight. No significant grappling across the first 3 rounds where Reyes out boxed the fuck out of Jon

Anyone giving a single round to Jon from the first 1-3 is a fucking cow brained retard

 

[RedDevilFan]

It's not what's being stated because we're talking about scoring fights, which is by rounds. FIGHTS aren't close, rounds are. And the rounds in this fight weren't close

Across the entire fight, Jones maintained a higher striking accuracy than Reyes, and that included the third round. This is not 4 strikes, but a significant amount of strikes,. Which allows fighters to effectively damage their opponents while minimizing the risk of getting hit themselves, essentially maximizing the impact of each strike by landing them precisely on target.

What is being said is that the data shows that Reyes was not hitting jones clean in the fight. Scott mentions that could have played a factor in the close rounds as the stats do not tell the whole picture in live time.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Total strikes landed >>> the accuracy of the strikes lmao

It's a fucking fight. No significant grappling across the first 3 rounds where Reyes out boxed the fuck out of Jon

Anyone giving a single round from the first 1-3 is a fucking cow brained retard

Appreciate your passion.

Watch the 3rd round again, sober.

Reyes was throwing punches "to keep Jones away" ... and was losing confidence and stamina.

Dominick was clearly realizing ...

1. He was fading; and
2. He was running out of steam.

Ray Charles could see the panic in his efforts/movements, midway in Round 3.

Jon Jones was in control, midway Round 3, and chased Reyes' yielding ass for the rest of the fight.

 

[smalliebiggs]

Jones-Reyes easily. GSP-Hendricks was close, not very clear.

Jones-Reyes was super clear. Reyes took the first 3 rounds then coasted because he was tired. Going into round 4 it would seem like Jones would need a finish but i guess not because puppet judges

 

[sdpdude9]

Anyone with a brain knows how to score fights round by round instead of just giving a "man score" dependent on how both guys looked at the end or who noted idiot IronGolem thinks was "scared," despite that scared guy still outstriking Jones in round 3

Guy uses his own personal “bad ass” scale instead of actually scoring fights. Never has facts or specific scoring metrics to back it up, it’s all just feelings. Old fart that thinks way too highly of himself coming off like a 10 year old that exclusively watches Jason Bourne movies.