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No shit. Karelin wasn't hype, he was legit and his loss to Rulon was just the end of an era of pure dominance.
not just him, but i see people listing wand, fedor, cro cop, and machida. these guys are all former champs who proved time and time again how skilled they are. just because they lose doesnt mean they werent great. shit machida is still a top ranked lhw