Bigfoot. Is it possible they exist?

I think that they probably don't exist. But as said earlier, only one of the many stories of sightings has to be true for them to exist. But my gut instinct tells me that each and every story of sightings is either a hoax or a simple mistake made by the person reporting it. I just think that if they did exist, there would have been some concrete evidence found by now. There are a lot of attention seeking people out there who make up BS stories just to get the attention that they crave. I think that explanation suffices for about 95%+ of bigfoot sightings. The others are probably just people thinking that they saw something that they didn't really see.
 
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This image was taken in 1936 in Australia of a supposed Bigfoot, Though in Australia we call them Yowie's. Aboriginal tribes have stories of them going way back.

Were's the head? Cant really make out the picture
 
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This image was taken in 1936 in Australia of a supposed Bigfoot, Though in Australia we call them Yowie's. Aboriginal tribes have stories of them going way back.

looks more like a picture of swamp thing, imo.
 
If gabe is seeing this since hes the animal guy im curious just for arguments sake when you mentioned the absence of dead bodies being found. Could the lack of a corpse be explained by them burying their dead?
 
The most famous footage - Patterson/Gimlin - is easily the most astounding piece of Bigfoot evidence in history. To this day that footage has not been duplicated even with modern technology. There are leg muscle movements, gaits that aren't human, and even movable toes which wasn't even doable by Hollywood at the time.

My personal belief is that the Patterson/Gimlin footage is legit. And I also think Patty (the being in the footage) was one of the last remaining Bigfoot before extinction.

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The most famous footage - Patterson/Gimlin - is easily the most astounding piece of Bigfoot evidence in history. To this day that footage has not been duplicated even with modern technology. There are leg muscle movements, gaits that aren't human, and even movable toes which wasn't even doable by Hollywood at the time.

My personal belief is that the Patterson/Gimlin footage is legit. And I also think Patty (the being in the footage) was one of the last remaining Bigfoot before extinction.

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You're retarded if you think a con man went out one day and found bigfoot on his first try and took a video. You have to be just as stupid as people who buy into scientology.

Bigfoot is a myth. We have populated most of our country, and set foot on nearly all of it. There is no way a species that large would survive for 200+ years with us never seeing him in our backyards. The species would have to have tons of them to be viable for reproduction. There is zero reason to believe in bigfoot. You call it a conspiracy now, but what about in the 1800s when nobody gave a shit what you killed? Where are the bodies from then? They don't exist because bigfoot doesn't exist. There is no other animal that large where we pretend like it's so smart that it can't be found. What other large animal like that hasn't been seen or found in a populated nation? None.

Bigfoot is a myth perpetuated by con-men and reinforced by morons who believe con-men. Patterson was a con-man. He went out and bought a camera, then then went to the woods one time and found bigfoot. Does that really seem reasonable? No.
 
Yes it is possible it is, in the state of Vermont
 
You're retarded if you think a con man went out one day and found bigfoot on his first try and took a video. You have to be just as stupid as people who buy into scientology.

Bigfoot is a myth. We have populated most of our country, and set foot on nearly all of it. There is no way a species that large would survive for 200+ years with us never seeing him in our backyards. The species would have to have tons of them to be viable for reproduction. There is zero reason to believe in bigfoot. You call it a conspiracy now, but what about in the 1800s when nobody gave a shit what you killed? Where are the bodies from then? They don't exist because bigfoot doesn't exist. There is no other animal that large where we pretend like it's so smart that it can't be found. What other large animal like that hasn't been seen or found in a populated nation? None.

Bigfoot is a myth perpetuated by con-men and reinforced by morons who believe con-men. Patterson was a con-man. He went out and bought a camera, then then went to the woods one time and found bigfoot. Does that really seem reasonable? No.

Was Patterson a bigfoot nut ? Yes. But the fact remains that their footage has not been duplicable to this day. Not to mention that for the first decade after it was released, both P and G referred to the creature as a "he." It was not until 1980's that technology showed breasts on the creature.

If it was a hoax, I think P and G were not a part of it but were fooled by it.
 
Was Patterson a bigfoot nut ? Yes. But the fact remains that their footage has not been duplicable to this day. Not to mention that for the first decade after it was released, both P and G referred to the creature as a "he." It was not until 1980's that technology showed breasts on the creature.

If it was a hoax, I think P and G were not a part of it but were fooled by it.


Are you seriously telling me someone couldn't replicate that? Of course they can. This is absolutely a hoax. Patterson was a con-man. He bought a camera, and in the same day went out to find bigfoot and found him. You have to be the most gullible person on the planet to believe a con-man honestly found bigfoot on his first attempt. Their gender claims don't mean shit. This is as silly as Ron Hubbard claiming to discover a religion. It's a scam for money and notoriety.

Bigfoot isn't real. The country isn't that large, and no animal that large is capable from hiding for that long without us finding it. Even the most elusive animals that are 100lbs and above are seen regularly and filmed regularly. It's just absurd to think we've got monster gorilla-men running through the woods that people hunt and camp in every year, and there is zero reliable footage and zero bodies or DNA. There isn't a single animal on this planet that hides from people like bigfoot supposedly does.

Patterson is a con-man who found bigfoot on the first day of searching. That's absurd. I don't know how many times I have to repeat that. That's not a coincidence. That's a con-man being a con-man.
 
Are you seriously telling me someone couldn't replicate that? Of course they can. This is absolutely a hoax. Patterson was a con-man. He bought a camera, and in the same day went out to find bigfoot and found him. You have to be the most gullible person on the planet to believe a con-man honestly found bigfoot on his first attempt. Their gender claims don't mean shit. This is as silly as Ron Hubbard claiming to discover a religion. It's a scam for money and notoriety.

Bigfoot isn't real. The country isn't that large, and no animal that large is capable from hiding for that long without us finding it. Even the most elusive animals that are 100lbs and above are seen regularly and filmed regularly. It's just absurd to think we've got monster gorilla-men running through the woods that people hunt and camp in every year, and there is zero reliable footage and zero bodies or DNA. There isn't a single animal on this planet that hides from people like bigfoot supposedly does.

Patterson is a con-man who found bigfoot on the first day of searching. That's absurd. I don't know how many times I have to repeat that. That's not a coincidence. That's a con-man being a con-man.

It's obvious you have done no research on the PG footage. I too used to be a skeptic. In fact, I don't believe in any other evidence of Bigfoot. I actually took the time to research this incredible footage and it is mind blowing. I'm not telling you Bigfoot exists. I'm not even saying that the PG footage is proof of anything. I believe it is simply because it has yet to be duplicated - hundreds of reputable people in Hollywood and professional costume designers have tried and admitted defeat in duplicating this. It is more impressive given it was filmed in the late 60's and has been able withstand every scrutiny against it. Dismissing it is not an argument. You're just deflecting at that point. You need to show how/why this footage isn't real.

The being in the footage has been shown to be nearly 8ft tall, and the gait is NOT REPLICATE-ABLE BY ANY KNOWN HUMAN. Apes can, though.
 
It's obvious you have done no research on the PG footage. I too used to be a skeptic. In fact, I don't believe in any other evidence of Bigfoot. I actually took the time to research this incredible footage and it is mind blowing. I'm not telling you Bigfoot exists. I'm not even saying that the PG footage is proof of anything. I believe it is simply because it has yet to be duplicated - hundreds of reputable people in Hollywood and professional costume designers have tried and admitted defeat in duplicating this. It is more impressive given it was filmed in the late 60's and has been able withstand every scrutiny against it. Dismissing it is not an argument. You're just deflecting at that point. You need to show how/why this footage isn't real.

The being in the footage has been shown to be nearly 8ft tall, and the gait is NOT REPLICATE-ABLE BY ANY KNOWN HUMAN. Apes can, though.

I remember watching a documentary, and Disney was approached to see if they could replicate the suit. Disney had the resources and technology, but said they could not do it. Many other experts have said that they could not either. The arm to body length ratio is not that of a human. Another man, Bob Heronimus, claimed to be the man in the suit, but there was never any proof nor has the suit ever been found.

Bob Gimlin has maintained that he was not part of any hoax to this day. He is getting up in his years, and if there is any secret, he may carry it to his grave.
 
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Anything is possible. I still believe.

But no, realistically probably a hoax.
 
It's obvious you have done no research on the PG footage. I too used to be a skeptic. In fact, I don't believe in any other evidence of Bigfoot. I actually took the time to research this incredible footage and it is mind blowing. I'm not telling you Bigfoot exists. I'm not even saying that the PG footage is proof of anything. I believe it is simply because it has yet to be duplicated - hundreds of reputable people in Hollywood and professional costume designers have tried and admitted defeat in duplicating this. It is more impressive given it was filmed in the late 60's and has been able withstand every scrutiny against it. Dismissing it is not an argument. You're just deflecting at that point. You need to show how/why this footage isn't real.

The being in the footage has been shown to be nearly 8ft tall, and the gait is NOT REPLICATE-ABLE BY ANY KNOWN HUMAN. Apes can, though.


Proof that hundreds of people replicated this unsuccessfully? That's such a bullshit statement dude. A person in a costume can easily replicate that. There's no way to dispute a video of a man in a suit when there is nothing real to compare it to. What are they supposed to dispute? It clearly looks like a man walking in a suit. There's nothing in the video that a human in a suit couldn't do. Fools like to talk about the bio-mechanics of the "creature", but it looks like a man walking in uneven terrain in a bulky money suit to me. It's also around 6ft, not 8 feet as you claimed. Faking a video isn't hard.

You're ignoring the fact that a con-man bought a camera and on the first day of trying managed to get the clearest and "best" footage of bigfoot ever found. You're basing your evidence on crap footage of a con man, when there is zero physical evidence to support any such creatures living in North America. You just can't hide things that large in the United States. We have hunters and campers in every national forest, all with cameras and guns. You never see any solid footage. You never see any hair, crap, body, teeth because it doesn't exist.


"In 2002, Philip Morris of Morris Costumes (a North Carolina-based company offering costumes, props and stage products) claimed that he made a gorilla costume that was used in the Patterson film. Morris says he discussed his role in the hoax "at costume conventions, lectures, [and] magician conventions"[253] in the 1980s, but first addressed the public at large on August 16, 2002, on Charlotte, North Carolina, radio stationWBT-AM.[254] His story was also printed in The Charlotte Observer.[255] Morris claims he was reluctant to expose the hoax earlier for fear of harming his business: giving away a performer's secrets, he said, would be widely regarded as disreputable.[256]

Morris said that he sold an ape suit to Patterson via mail-order in 1967, thinking it was going to be used in what Patterson described as a "prank."[257] (Ordinarily the gorilla suits he sold were used for a popular side-show routine that depicted an attractive woman changing into a gorilla.) After the initial sale, Morris said that Patterson telephoned him asking how to make the "shoulders more massive"[258] and the "arms longer."[259] Morris says he suggested that whoever wore the suit should wear football shoulder pads and hold sticks in his hands within the suit.

As for the creature's walk, Morris said:

The Bigfoot researchers say that no human can walk that way in the film. Oh, yes they can! When you're wearing long clown's feet, you can't place the ball of your foot down first. You have to put your foot down flat. Otherwise, you'll stumble. Another thing, when you put on the gorilla head, you can only turn your head maybe a quarter of the way. And to look behind you, you've got to turn your head and your shoulders and your hips. Plus, the shoulder pads in the suit are in the way of the jaw. That's why the Bigfoot turns and looks the way he does in the film. He has to twist his entire upper body
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Morris' wife and business partner Amy had vouched for her husband and claims to have helped frame the suit.[260] Morris offered no evidence apart from testimony to support his account, the most conspicuous shortcoming being the absence of a gorilla suit or documentation that would match the detail evidenced in the film and could have been produced in 1967."

Korff, Kal K.; Kocis, Michaela (July–August 2004). "Exposing Roger Patterson's 1967 Bigfoot Film Hoax". Skeptical Inquirer (Committee for Skeptical Inquiry) 28 (4): 35–40. ISSN 0194-6730.
 
It's obvious you have done no research on the PG footage. I too used to be a skeptic. In fact, I don't believe in any other evidence of Bigfoot. I actually took the time to research this incredible footage and it is mind blowing. I'm not telling you Bigfoot exists. I'm not even saying that the PG footage is proof of anything. I believe it is simply because it has yet to be duplicated - hundreds of reputable people in Hollywood and professional costume designers have tried and admitted defeat in duplicating this. It is more impressive given it was filmed in the late 60's and has been able withstand every scrutiny against it. Dismissing it is not an argument. You're just deflecting at that point. You need to show how/why this footage isn't real.

The being in the footage has been shown to be nearly 8ft tall, and the gait is NOT REPLICATE-ABLE BY ANY KNOWN HUMAN. Apes can, though.

Not only HAS it been debunked, but it's really not even being researched anymore. All this was done over 10 years ago.
https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4375

We know who made the suit. We know who wore the suit. Case closed, and has been for some time.
 
Like most People that have posted in this thread, I've spent a lot of time in the Wilderness. Specifically in the PWN Back Country. And while I've never had a sighting or anything crazy, like Ironwolf, I have definitely heard some strange things that had me legitimately spooked, especially at night. Though, it could have been my imagination running away with me.

I'd like to think there are bigfoots out there. I definitely don't see it as out of the realm of possibility. In fact, I think more likely than not, there are.
 
Bigfoot isn't real. The country isn't that large, and no animal that large is capable from hiding for that long without us finding it. Even the most elusive animals that are 100lbs and above are seen regularly and filmed regularly. It's just absurd to think we've got monster gorilla-men running through the woods that people hunt and camp in every year, and there is zero reliable footage and zero bodies or DNA. There isn't a single animal on this planet that hides from people like bigfoot supposedly does.

I don't know if Bigfoot is real or not, and I know nothing about the film/suit/hoax. But from where I live, in Boise Idaho, in less than an hour you can be in deserts , or forests so vast a creature that wanted to avoid contact could easily avoid contact.
 
anyone who believes in bigfoot may as well believe in Aliens and God. Waste of a human brain
 
I don't know if Bigfoot is real or not, and I know nothing about the film/suit/hoax. But from where I live, in Boise Idaho, in less than an hour you can be in deserts , or forests so vast a creature that wanted to avoid contact could easily avoid contact.

Not in Boise, Washington, New York, or any other state could a creature such as Bigfoot hide it's existence from us. You are grossly underestimating how many people are tromping through the woods every year. To sustain it's population, there would have to be enough to remain genetically different. There would be hundreds if them running around. We've yet to find a single shit pile, body, tooth, toenail, et cetera. During the 1800's there was no government that would hide it's existence. Why didn't any bodies turn up then? Because it doesn't exist. Why doesn't it turn up on trail cameras or video from campers/hunters? Because it doesn't exist.

People like to freak out in the woods and imagine things. They hear noises or whatever, but it's just our biology. We've evolved to believe in danger when we don't know what things are. It's what kept us alive in our history, but now it results in people hearing bigfoot or seeing other stupid shit.
 
Not in Boise, Washington, New York, or any other state could a creature such as Bigfoot hide it's existence from us. You are grossly underestimating how many people are tromping through the woods every year.

I don't know where you're from, but you're grossly underestimating how large wilderness areas are.
A few examples:
New York City is 305 square miles with a population of roughly 8,500,000 people.

The U.S. Has 154 national forests covering over 294,361 square miles, and the majority of those square miles have NOT had people "tromping through" them.

In just one state (Idaho) and only one of the wilderness areas in that state, there is 3,700 square miles (2.367 million acres). Or more than 10 times the square miles of NYC.

An interesting story illustrating how long things can go undisturbed in the wilderness areas.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/news/132-year-old-winchester-model-1873-found-great-basin-national-park/

Cliffs:
A rifle was found leaning up against a juniper tree in a National Park, the rifle is 132 years old.. It's estimated that the rifle has been leaning undisturbed against the juniper tree for at least a century... In a National Park.

I'm not arguing one way or another about the existence of Bigfoot.. I'm just telling you if an animal who lives in the forest, wants to remain hidden. It would be easy to do.
 
I don't know if Bigfoot is real or not, and I know nothing about the film/suit/hoax. But from where I live, in Boise Idaho, in less than an hour you can be in deserts , or forests so vast a creature that wanted to avoid contact could easily avoid contact.

I am probably heading out there later this year! Near Redfish Lake, looking forward to it, hear it's amazing.
 
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