Better resume at UFC HW: Jones or DC?

[Gregoire1]

Uhhh ...why? what does it matter whether its in the UFC or not? Bigfoot and Barnett are already a better two wins than Gane and 42 year old Stipe.



Yes, beating Stipe, Mir, Big Country and Lewis is better than beating Stipe 6 years later and Ciryl Gane.



Ohhh okay, now it all makes sense......

Because for me its matter. Bigfoot and Barnett were two gatekeepers borderline top10 HW at the time.

Beating Stipe and 3 gatekeepers and losing to past-prime Stippe 2 times is better than beating Gane and post-prime Stipe? Interesting.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Because for me its matter. Bigfoot and Barnett were two gatekeepers borderline top10 HW at the time.

Beating Stipe and 3 gatekeepers and losing to past-prime Stippe 2 times is better than beating Gane and post-prime Stipe? Interesting.

Did you forget the part where DC was in his 40s when he was losing to Stipe or something?

Lmao @ shitting on guys like Barnett, Bigfoot and Mir only to hype up Ciryl fucking Gane.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Because for me its matter. Bigfoot and Barnett were two gatekeepers borderline top10 HW at the time.

Beating Stipe and 3 gatekeepers and losing to past-prime Stippe 2 times is better than beating Gane and post-prime Stipe? Interesting.

Gatekeepers to who...? DC fought them in Strikeforce.

 

[Gregoire1]

Did you forget the part where DC was in his 40s when he was losing to Stipe or something?

Lmao @ shitting on guys like Barnett, Bigfoot and Mir only to hype up Ciryl fucking Gane.

Did you forget that Jones was also 35 then beating young Gane or something? And DC beat these old washed versions of Nelson, Mir and Barnett?
Gane is much better than prime versions of this guys, let alone old versions. To hype up such a gatekeepers is... hm....ridiculous

 

[Gregoire1]

Gatekeepers to who...? DC fought them in Strikeforce.

to top-5 HW at the time. Cain, JDS, Reem, Werdum, Lesnar, Fedor, Arlovski, DC himself, name a few

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Did you forget that Jones was also 35 then beating young Gane or something? And DC beat these old washed versions of Nelson, Mir and Barnett?
Gane is much better than prime versions of this guys, let alone old versions. To hype up such a gatekeepers is... hm....ridiculous

Gane is better than prime Josh Barnett? A guy who was fought competitive fights with Nogueria, Crocop, and Randy Courture? Even beat some of those guys.

Considering how easy Gane is to wrestle, a head to head fight between Barnett and Gane is rather predictable...

 

[OldBoy91]

obvious thread just to shit on jones. come on yall..

TS is a giant Jones slobberer, so wrong on that count.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

TS is a giant Jones slobberer, so wrong on that count.

Yeah, I had no idea this guy was that far out there. It totally seemed like just some random reason to say DC > Jones.

This guy is actually pretending like beating Gane is better the majority of DC's entire career.

 

[Gregoire1]

Gane is better than prime Josh Barnett? A guy who was fought competitive fights with Nogueria, Crocop, and Randy Courture? Even beat some of those guys.

Considering how easy Gane is to wrestle, a head to head fight between Barnett and Gane is rather predictable...

You really think that these old dudes could be competitive vs current Gane? You dont know about evolution of the sport I suppose... Gane is much better than prime Barnett, let alone old dude whom beat DC.

70/30 Gane in their matchup. Barnett wont take him down. He had no striking, would be knocked out fast.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

I'm loving this new phenomenon on here of how Gane magically seems to be ascending higher and higher up the ATG list every day without even fighting.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

If we're talking UFC only, then Jones.

DC's win against Stipe was dubious, so all he really accomplished was losing to Stipe twice and beating Black Beast.

 

[Gregoire1]

I like how these old obese gatekeepers like Nelson, Barnett and Lewis now are better for DC nuthuggers that prime top-2 HW in the world A-level athlete Gane.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

You really think that these old dudes could be competitive vs current Gane? You dont know about evolution of the sport I suppose... Gane is much better than prime Barnett, let alone old dude whom beat DC.

70/30 Gane in their matchup. Barnett wont take him down. He had no striking, would be knocked out fast.

Evolution of the sport? Those guys didn't fight that long ago....the HW champion is a fighter from like 3 generation of fighters ago. The very guy you're propping up is contradicting your claim.

Most of DC's best wins came at HW. You're saying that one win against Gane is better than DC's entire career? You're going off this because....Gane fought more recent than Silva and Barnett?

 

[Gregoire1]

Evolution of the sport? Those guys didn't fight that long ago....the HW champion is a fighter from like 3 generation of fighters ago.

Barnett is 47 now. Think about it. But in any case number 2 ranking with ONE close loss (could be even win) to one of the best HW peak fighters EVA is better than old gatekeeper Barnett (top-10 maybe at the time) who was beaten (and even KOd) multiple times by Cop, Nog ect

Yes, Gane win is better than all DC wins (not in sum, but still) and It makes this comparison interesting. Its obvious. Im going of this because he is obviously different level of fighter even without evolution.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

He had no striking, would be knocked out fast.

Lol Barnett fought Semmy, Cro Cop, Hunt, Kharitanov, Aleks E, AA, Yvel and Big Country and won most of those fights but pillow fists Gane who has like a 40% KO ratio would knock him out fast. Yes definitely.

 

[surgeyou1]

DC easy. How is that even a debate. Even the Stipe DC fought was much better

 

[Gregoire1]

Lol Barnett fought Semmy, Cro Cop, Hunt, Kharitanov, Aleks E, AA, Yvel and Big Country and won most of those fights but pillow fists Gane who has like a 40% KO ratio would knock him out fast. Yes definitely.

Oh man.. really... he fought Semmy? And what about this striker from UFC 1... I forgot... Gordeau? He also beat him? Its impressive win, you got me.

 

[TheTickG]

Who's resume at UFC HW are better: Jones or DC?

DC resume:

Mir win

Nelson win

Stipe win

Lewis win

Stipe loss

Stipe loss



Jones resume:

Gane win

Stipe win



Which is better for now and why?

DC
The reason, DC's opponents were all still alive when he fought them.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Oh man.. really... he fought Semmy? And what about this striker from UFC 1... I forgot... Gordeau? He also beat him? Its impressive win, you got me.

Ah so now you're trying to shit on the near 7 foot tall dude who went on to become the most dominant HW kickboxer of all time too?

 

[Gregoire1]

Ah so now you're trying to shit on the near 7 foot tall dude who went on to become the most dominant HW kickboxer of all time too?

Oh, man, 7 foot tall... Its really very impressive, I suppose only Struve maybe is on his level! Most dominant kickboxer, wow... You really open my eyes, thanks.