BETA Academy owner explains ending relationship with Lloyd Irvin

[Nomad Nemesis**]

or is he dev kosta? who gives a shit. if i wanted to communicate with retards i would hang out with the greeter at walmart

 

[Eric O]

no one is buying your shit devnutscuk, just go hang out on lloyd's FB and live in the Lloyd matrix of bullshit.

and this is why lloyd breeds a rape culture. you are better than everyone else and no one associated with lloyd is capable of any wrong doing. he should open an affiliate in Steubenville, OH

Its a colony in South America called Irvinstown. They all down purple drink and then train BJJ. I'll let you know if I read anything about slaves in the next email spam I get.

 

[j1ujitzu]

Paragraphs bro, paragraphs.

Sorry. I made sure I spelled everything correctly and used proper punctuation because I know there is always someone who needs to correct spelling errors of others. That is why I edited it, because when I read it online I noticed I had a typo. I was very careful. Didn't know I had to watch paragraphs too. It will not happen again. (Crap! Was that supposed to be a new paragraph?)

 

[Makhno]

Dev's not going to reveal himself Anaconda. I say you out him!

 

[the heed]

Dev's not going to reveal himself Anaconda. I say you out him!

What's the point? He will deny it.

 

[SynesthesiaX]

So are conspiracy theories, its all for anonymity. Knowing who someone is does not hurt their credibility even if they are affiliated because they can be for or against. It's better this way because IMO the words have better meaning from my viewpoint.

I would disagree that your viewpoint, such as it is, gives words more meaning. You've done nothing but make excuses, try to shift focus onto other things, and can barely keep your BS theories straight. You should start making some notes and diagrams if you haven't already.

And if knowing who someone is doesn't hurt their credibility, why don't you take Ryan Hall's girlfriend at her word? You cried over and over again that newspaper reports aren't valid sources because no one here was in the courtroom during Lloyd's proceedings and the reporters might be biased
Presumably this gal was in the room when her own thumb got broken.

 

[Makhno]

What's the point? He will deny it.

True, and I kinda want to believe it's that Donnie guy, just so i can respond to his posts with "Shut the fuck up, donnie..."

 

[Eric O]

I think this is going to be the end of the Devnull account posting. He's already posting on these other white belt accounts.

 

[ElKarlo]

What's the point? He will deny it.

Yeah guy is a total nutter.

 

[Bojovnik Slav]

Is Devnull Devon Delbrugge?

 

[the heed]

He's already posting on these other white belt accounts.

I'm willing to bet he has multiple accounts.. all made in different times.
so the cult will live on. But like I said before.. who knows.. Megan Phelps left the Westboro Church and now speaking against them.. He could also see the light.

 

[ElKarlo]

I'm willing to bet he has multiple accounts.. all made in different times.
so the cult will live on. But like I said before.. who knows.. Megan Phelps left the Westboro Church and now speaking against them.. He could also see the light.

Yeah people can always develop a conscious. Heck even LI can redeem himself

 

[Bojovnik Slav]

So I'm guessing Devon Delbrugge.

 

[SanShou01]

Damn...when it rains, it pours Irvin.

Nakapan started training BJJ under Mario Yamasaki sometimes in 1997 when there were like 20 students. One of Mario's best students at 16 years old. He was like a purple belt in 2000 or so and was working on Yamasaki's standup program with Mike Moses (who was the lead MT instructor). The Muay Thai program did very well there. Then him and Moses, jumped ship and joined Lloyd Irvin along with 3-4 more of Yamasaki's top students. Obviously, Yamasaki was pissed. Must be that the Yamasaki didn't give them a good enough deal as compared to Irvin, or whatever. Moses setup his Team Lloyd affiliate gym about 10 miles away from Yamasaki called Evolve w/Nakapan assisting. Then Nakapan started up his own gym, Beta Academy, when he broke away from Moses, but still under the umbrella of Team Lloyd Irvin and using his name. Irvin became the top team in the area, producing UFC contenders and champions.

Not sure when exactly did Moses and Nakapan left Yamasaki, but it was probably around when Evolve Academy was established. Maybe 2001 or 2002? That's around 10 years ago, of flourishing success when it comes to MMA gyms.

Personally, I don't see how anyone can have a hold on another grown adult as Nakapan accused Irvin of. He's a grown man and accomplished fighter. Plus he's college educated with an MBA, CPA....damn, no easy feats.

Irvin bringing a gun to their Millionaire Club Whatever? Hahah puhlease. Like only Irvin owns guns now? This was ridiculous. You can buy legal AK-47's for like $230 in 1999, blah, blah, blah in Maryland (a not so gun-friendly State) w/o much hassle. What, Irvin going to shoot him in the middle of a meeting, c'mon. Ok, looks like Irvin had a CCW in MD, which is very difficult to obtain. But he was a victim of some home invasion and has a business in a bad area, so I guess MD gave him one. So obviously, he carries it around, including to this meeting. Big deal.

Nakapan does not look like anyone who'd be afraid of Irvin. I never met Irvin, but damn, Irvin must have pissed him off real bad for him to write such a nasty letter. Irvin seems to run his business more cutthroat and less like traditional MA gyms like Yamasaki. Sign up as many as he can using box gym type molds, high pressure, etc. Big deal. He's a businessman. All of that success with his Beta Academy and under Irvin for at least 10 years, not much of a peep.... but now he slams the shit out Irvin while Irvin is face down in a ton of shit?

I read his whole letter because it's like soap opera and everyone's nosy, including myself. Love slowing down to watch a bad car wreck happening to someone else. I jump around many different gyms to train, so I really don't have lots of allegiance to any one. I'd rather not get into the politics. I just hear stuff floating around for over 12 years now in the locker rooms. But my guestimate is that this guy Nakapan is pulling a bitch move. Disassociating with TLI due to fear of trickling bad press, fine. But why lynch him like this when you've been making money off of his affiliation for the past 10 years now? Yea, he said he's losing money with Irvin.....give me a break. An MBA, CPA, etc. isn't enough smarts to tell Irvin to stick it up his ass within those 10 years? Hard to believe Irvin can have such controlling power over anyone, let alone an accomplished fighter with an MBA and CPA. The part about Irvin with his gun was pretty funny though.

I'd more believe him if Mike Moses were to pull out and wrote a similarly, nasty exit letter.

 

[ElKarlo]

Not quite right I'll pm you later

 

[LLoydIrvinED]

Damn...when it rains, it pours Irvin.

Nakapan started training BJJ under Mario Yamasaki sometimes in 1997 when there were like 20 students. One of Mario's best students at 16 years old. He was like a purple belt in 2000 or so and was working on Yamasaki's standup program with Mike Moses (who was the lead MT instructor). The Muay Thai program did very well there. Then him and Moses, jumped ship and joined Lloyd Irvin along with 3-4 more of Yamasaki's top students. Obviously, Yamasaki was pissed. Must be that the Yamasaki didn't give them a good enough deal as compared to Irvin, or whatever. Moses setup his Team Lloyd affiliate gym about 10 miles away from Yamasaki called Evolve w/Nakapan assisting. Then Nakapan started up his own gym, Beta Academy, when he broke away from Moses, but still under the umbrella of Team Lloyd Irvin and using his name. Irvin became the top team in the area, producing UFC contenders and champions.

Not sure when exactly did Moses and Nakapan left Yamasaki, but it was probably around when Evolve Academy was established. Maybe 2001 or 2002? That's around 10 years ago, of flourishing success when it comes to MMA gyms.

Personally, I don't see how anyone can have a hold on another grown adult as Nakapan accused Irvin of. He's a grown man and accomplished fighter. Plus he's college educated with an MBA, CPA....damn, no easy feats.

Irvin bringing a gun to their Millionaire Club Whatever? Hahah puhlease. Like only Irvin owns guns now? This was ridiculous. You can buy legal AK-47's for like $230 in 1999, blah, blah, blah in Maryland (a not so gun-friendly State) w/o much hassle. What, Irvin going to shoot him in the middle of a meeting, c'mon. Ok, looks like Irvin had a CCW in MD, which is very difficult to obtain. But he was a victim of some home invasion and has a business in a bad area, so I guess MD gave him one. So obviously, he carries it around, including to this meeting. Big deal.

Nakapan does not look like anyone who'd be afraid of Irvin. I never met Irvin, but damn, Irvin must have pissed him off real bad for him to write such a nasty letter. Irvin seems to run his business more cutthroat and less like traditional MA gyms like Yamasaki. Sign up as many as he can using box gym type molds, high pressure, etc. Big deal. He's a businessman. All of that success with his Beta Academy and under Irvin for at least 10 years, not much of a peep.... but now he slams the shit out Irvin while Irvin is face down in a ton of shit?

I read his whole letter because it's like soap opera and everyone's nosy, including myself. Love slowing down to watch a bad car wreck happening to someone else. I jump around many different gyms to train, so I really don't have lots of allegiance to any one. I'd rather not get into the politics. I just hear stuff floating around for over 12 years now in the locker rooms. But my guestimate is that this guy Nakapan is pulling a bitch move. Disassociating with TLI due to fear of trickling bad press, fine. But why lynch him like this when you've been making money off of his affiliation for the past 10 years now? Yea, he said he's losing money with Irvin.....give me a break. An MBA, CPA, etc. isn't enough smarts to tell Irvin to stick it up his ass within those 10 years? Hard to believe Irvin can have such controlling power over anyone, let alone an accomplished fighter with an MBA and CPA. The part about Irvin with his gun was pretty funny though.

I'd more believe him if Mike Moses were to pull out and wrote a similarly, nasty exit letter.

Interesting, however your use of the word "guestimate" relinquishes any possible credibility that you may have had. That and Sanshou is for delusional people living in 1999.

 

[Cali Grappler]

Yeah, I don't know how much I can buy into Nak being a victim of Lloyd's bullying. Maybe he felt some pressure to lie about his success because he didn't want to look like a failure but that's his own ego. If he couldn't tell the Mastermind group "hey this isn't working for me", that's his own fault.

To me it seems like he hustled at those seminars as hard as anyone else. I'm not looking down on him for his business tactics, not exactly, but I don't believe that he was a victim of being bullied. If I could take my gym from 40 students to 500 students in a few years by being bullied, you can start by giving me a wedgie and taking my lunch money

 

[Bostonkrav]

The larger number of brand new accounts coming to the defense (all with different levels of devotion to the "master" some fanatical, some more moderate) really is amusing.

As an observer who has read all the threads on this topic I think these planted accounts remove doubt about the cult of personality in place, and the agressive techniques described in the letters.

 

[Cali Grappler]

Can't I not buy Nak's story without being an LI apologist? (I'm assuming I'm one of the moderates, you mentioned).

I've never said a kind word about LI in person or any forums.

 

[Bojovnik Slav]

The tone of replies here and on facebook pages, made by L.I. supporters, supports Nak's story of how the operation runs.