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at one time they did say BJJ is the best base for MMA
Yes, and then wrestlers came in and virtually neutralized it.
What neutralizes wrestling?
at one time they did say BJJ is the best base for MMA
A lot of people get mixed up about the situation when fighting in soccer kick MMA
it's not a question of whether or not your opponent is grounded and thus you cannot kick or knee them
it's a question of whether or not you have the confidence to throw those kinds of strikes as your opponent is trying to take you down
The fact is in a real-world scenario it is very difficult to tell if your opponent is truly down or not as he scrambles for his takedown
if he has a knee on the ground he is considered down and thus you cannot kick or knee him in American MMA
If fighter lacks the confidence to throw those kinds of techniques at an incoming wrestler the wrestler is WILDLY advantaged
Here Michigan wrestling head coach Sean Bormet gets a taste of international soccer kick MMA as his opponent has the confidence to throw kicks that an incoming wrestler without worry of the DQ
Yes, and then wrestlers came in and virtually neutralized it.
What neutralizes wrestling?
Bormet is substantially smaller than Wand.
The sport is evolving
UFC and other American mma promotions are doing everything in their power to advantage the American wrestler because they want "all american champs" so they can sell swag to the fake wrestling NASCAR fanboys [smart business]
Wrestlers have lots of terrible habits that leave them vulnerable to good knee artists and the best submission guys
the most accomplished wrestlers are NEVER gonna be that good in mma and just get "fluffed" up for the slack jawed fanboys
These athletes have spent so many years learning to perfect their "sport grappling" they are ultra specialists
[just like SPORT BJJ guys]
profit minded gym owners push the fallacy that training in 5 different martial arts / sports = the ultimate mix for MMA
The fact IS specialists are getting pushed out of MMA
Wrestlers days are numbered
Just like the BJJ days of yore...lol
wonder when we will actually have MMA training in the USA
NOT
Muay thai + BJJ + wrestling = MMA
there are a lot of wrestlers who are simply holding on the the underbelly of MMA as their sport is slowly absorbed
desperately clinging on to MMA for relavance
the bad news is....
the ride is gonna get tougher!!!
the most accomplished wrestlers are NEVER gonna be that good in mma and just get "fluffed" up for the slack jawed fanboys
The fact IS specialists are getting pushed out of MMA. Wrestlers days are numbered
Don't forget that Cejudo is also a gold medalist!Cejudo is a double champ.
Khabib champ.
Usman champ.
Jones champ.
DC Champ.
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Nonsense. Jon Jones, Cormier, Romero, Khabib, Cejudo, etc etc etc
The problem starts if you ONLY can wrestle, not wrestling itself. Wrestling is the important foundation of fighting. Some fighters can ONLY wrestle, and if you can only wrestle you are going to be a boring Lay and Prayer who cant finish fights, like Colby and Usman.
Nonsense. Jon Jones, Cormier, Romero, Khabib, Cejudo, etc etc etc
The problem starts if you ONLY can wrestle, not wrestling itself. Wrestling is the important foundation of fighting. Some fighters can ONLY wrestle, and if you can only wrestle you are going to be a boring Lay and Prayer who cant finish fights, like Colby and Usman.
none of those guys are the best wrestlers in the world
a matter of fact the Americans you listed aren't even the best wrestlers in the United States
except maybe cejudo
the point is wrestling as a specialty is going to become less and less relevant as people get better and better at MMA
The sport is still in its infancy
didn't you all learn anything from watching the BJJ dominance fall apart
it's totally understandable to see what's in front of you and assume that's the best in the world
it's just the best you're exposed to
remember there are more talented wrestlers in Japan per capita than there are in the United States yet wrestlers don't dominate their MMA [ because they have public gyms in Japan and Asia unlike United States for martial arts]
wrestling is not the best base for MMA it's the best thing we have in America and so it dominates the American tournaments especially when they do their best to keep International wrestlers out of the UFC
The sport is evolving
UFC and other American mma promotions are doing everything in their power to advantage the American wrestler because they want "all american champs" so they can sell swag to the fake wrestling NASCAR fanboys [smart business]
Wrestlers have lots of terrible habits that leave them vulnerable to good knee artists and the best submission guys
the most accomplished wrestlers are NEVER gonna be that good in mma and just get "fluffed" up for the slack jawed fanboys
These athletes have spent so many years learning to perfect their "sport grappling" they are ultra specialists
[just like SPORT BJJ guys]
profit minded gym owners push the fallacy that training in 5 different martial arts / sports = the ultimate mix for MMA
The fact IS specialists are getting pushed out of MMA
Wrestlers days are numbered
Just like the BJJ days of yore...lol
wonder when we will actually have MMA training in the USA
NOT
Muay thai + BJJ + wrestling = MMA
there are a lot of wrestlers who are simply holding on the the underbelly of MMA as their sport is slowly absorbed
desperately clinging on to MMA for relavance
the bad news is....
the ride is gonna get tougher!!!
A very smart fella named Corningin Christianburg already debunked one of your arguments, but I'll repeat his rebuttal since you just don't get it.
This is YOUR claim paraphrased. "MMA pays much more than wrestling. The best wrestlers in the world don't come over to MMA. Therefore, they must think they'd suck at MMA. Therefore, wrestling is not the best base for MMA." The problem is, you have no evidence to back up your 3rd statement. There could be many reasons why wrestlers don't do MMA. Maybe they don't want brain damage; maybe they love wrestling more; maybe they don't want to learn striking defense; maybe they want to keep being Olympians; etc.
I'm not even saying that wrestling is the best base for MMA. I'm just pointing out how bad your reasoning is.
The best base for MMA is Krav Maga. Nothing come even close.
only certain wrestlers do well in mma though, unless you are also a talented sub artist or striker or both you aren't going to get very far on pure wrestling.
well all you said is irrelevant since wrestling is the best base for mma and will continue to be so.
wrestling > all other combat sports
Yes, and then wrestlers came in and virtually neutralized it.
What neutralizes wrestling?