Best Fighter in GOT Tournament | Round 2 | #3) Jaime Lannister vs #6) The Hound

What the fuk is wrong with you people...Jaime can't beat shit with only one hand...the hound slaps him around while eating a bucket of KFC.
 
What the fuk is wrong with you people...Jaime can't beat shit with only one hand...the hound slaps him around while eating a bucket of KFC.

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Hound kicks his ass then the asses of at least 77 Sherdog posters.

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pfft...well now you are just making shit up.....if that's the case $500 of the kool-aid guy.
 
Watching Jaime struggle relearning how to sword fight really makes you appreciate how much of a badass Qhorin Halfhand is.
 
Looks like The Hound's time is up :(

So long, Sandor, your chicken was best chicken
 
A lot of prodigies don't pan out. Jamie really didn't have a comeback when his bastard incest baby boy pointed out that his entry in the Kingsguard book was rather lacking.

Jamie is BJ Penn and The Hound is GSP.

Jaime did pan out, though. He was a beast before losing his hand. And what does the Hound's entry look like?

- Babysat Sansa Stark
- Fled from battle

End of career.
 
The Hound would have Lanister for breakfast like any other little man.
 
That we know of. Would be interesting to read his page in the whitebook.

That would be a great book for grrm if he ever finishes the series.

I'd love to read a whitebook.

Sandor Clegane second son of x. Sworn sword of Joffrey Baratheon. Rode down a butchers boy. Won a tourney by forfeit. Named to the kingsguard in his x year. Killed peasants and told king to go fuck himself.

Anyway GRRM said skills wise its Dayne and Selmy prime with Dawn giving Dayne the edge. So I'll go with that.

Most of the hound's exploits wouldn't be cataloged because he was more of the kind of guy that did his work in the shadows. The dirty work, if you will. Jaime was always front and center since he was considered a wunderkind. You'd think he'd have way more written about him, but alas he's clearly overrated. Great in controlled environments, but not as much in real world applications.
 
I feel Dayne is kind of overrated, if he's so great why is he dead?

Selmy and Jamie seem to be blinded by some kind of Bruce Lee style hero worship but there's hardly anything about his exploits just people saying he was the best eva with a sword.

If Selmy and Jaime say he's the best, then he's the best. They sparred with him all the time. They know the pecking order just like the guys at any martial arts gym in America.

Most of the hound's exploits wouldn't be cataloged because he was more of the kind of guy that did his work in the shadows. The dirty work, if you will. Jaime was always front and center since he was considered a wunderkind. You'd think he'd have way more written about him, but alas he's clearly overrated. Great in controlled environments, but not as much in real world applications.

Except we know he's outstanding in real world application. He was a battle commander (and had likely been so for about a decade by the time AGoT starts), so, unlike The Hound, he isn't in the thick of combat most of the time. The Hound is the only elite fighter that is never given a command position, so we see him fight more than the other elites. Even Gregor has his own band of men.

Whenever Jaime actually engages the enemy, he single handedly fucks up the entire battlefield ala the infamous charge to slay Robb Stark. Cutting through Robb's personal bodyguard is on par with many of Selmy's exploits. We just don't hail it as incredible because it happened in the course of the novels and hasn't been bolstered by re-tellings.
 
This is looking to be a Dayne vs. Selmy final, with Dawn giving Dayne the edge needed to win. I guess it makes sense considering the author himself said they were the two best.

I think Robert should beat Selmy.
 
We just don't hail it as incredible because it happened in the course of the novels and hasn't been bolstered by re-tellings.

No, it shouldn't be hailed as incredible for a couple of reasons:
1. he basically killed fodder. The guys he cut down weren't known as particularly good warriors.
2. they were trying to take him alive so the were obviously hamstrung. He could attack them with the intent to kill while they had to be careful and take a more measured approach.
 
If Selmy and Jaime say he's the best, then he's the best. They sparred with him all the time. They know the pecking order just like the guys at any martial arts gym in America.



Except we know he's outstanding in real world application. He was a battle commander (and had likely been so for about a decade by the time AGoT starts), so, unlike The Hound, he isn't in the thick of combat most of the time. The Hound is the only elite fighter that is never given a command position, so we see him fight more than the other elites. Even Gregor has his own band of men.

Whenever Jaime actually engages the enemy, he single handedly fucks up the entire battlefield ala the infamous charge to slay Robb Stark. Cutting through Robb's personal bodyguard is on par with many of Selmy's exploits. We just don't hail it as incredible because it happened in the course of the novels and hasn't been bolstered by re-tellings.

You mean the battle where he got captured by a teenager?
 
No, it shouldn't be hailed as incredible for a couple of reasons:
1. he basically killed fodder. The guys he cut down weren't known as particularly good warriors.
2. they were trying to take him alive so the were obviously hamstrung. He could attack them with the intent to kill while they had to be careful and take a more measured approach.

1. They were Robb's personal guard. None of the northerners (other than the Greatjon, maybe) have a reputation as fearsome warriors because they don't observe knighthood or participate in tourneys, but that doesn't mean they aren't. Who else would guard the King in the North but the most fearsome Northern warriors?

2. If this is true, then it applies to any fight Selmy has had as well. Knights are almost always worth more alive than dead. And they wear so much armor that it's basically impossible to kill them anyway. When Selmy "cut a bloody swath" through the battle to slay the last Blackfyre, he very likely cut down people who were trying to capture him.
 
That's a fair assessment. I think the Hound also beats him in durability (which may be part of size/strength). The way the joust goes down is that Jaime breaks his first lance on him using some tricky shit. The hound keeps his horse and goes for a dual exchange in the second go-around and keeps his horse once again while Jaime goes crashing down. The Hound then goes toe to toe with his brother like 20 minutes thereafter.

The thing is...I think the Hound can tank a hit or two, while Jaime needs to be perfect. This might be the closest matchup on paper of any of them.

What do you think this is, boxing? You don't "tank" sword wounds by being big. You tank them by having decent armor. If you get cut, you start to die.
 
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