BATMAN V SUPERMAN v.10 (First Twitter Reactions)

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Cavill isn't good enough to carry a movie by himself. To make matters worse, the no jokes rule that do has isn't helping his cause. Superman universe shouldn't be so dark always . It needs levity.

i think the studio now realizes this and as a result cavill/superman has been reduced to a strong supporting character, instead of a lead. Part of what makes cavill effective is a politeness..charm..affable nature; the route they go w/superman seems to require a depth and layered performance he is incapable of giving.

He has the physical presence..the right look..but not the finer points to effectively play a dark brooding burdened superman..he may fit w/ cleaner..less harsh superman.

as it stands now everyone is acting him under the table
 
Dull as sin though.

Everyone wants to emulate Donner's Superman, but they somehow don't quite understand how to create the sense of fun that those films share.

Superman II is still the greatest Superman movie ever made. And I'd argue that Superman I/II as written by Mario Puzo is the greatest superhero story put to paper.

I thought "Returns" captured the look and feel on the Donner films. The story was just extremely lacking. But even at that, I still enjoy it. I'd say Routh is still my favorite Superman.
 
I thought "Returns" captured the look and feel on the Donner films. The story was just extremely lacking. But even at that, I still enjoy it. I'd say Routh is still my favorite Superman.

Holy shit I didn't think I would disagree with someone so much. That movie is utter shit on so many levels.

It's like a corny remake that didn't even stay trup to the comics and is a lazy Donner film. To have them in the same sentence is bad.

Not to mention it's boring as fuck
 
Holy shit I didn't think I would disagree with someone so much. That movie is utter shit on so many levels.

It's like a corny remake that didn't even stay trup to the comics and is a lazy Donner film. To have them in the same sentence is bad.

Not to mention it's boring as fuck

I can see where it's boring. But I thought it could have easily been apart of that universe. Just way less cheesy (no flying plastic "S").

I can understand a lot of the complaints, but I thought the best part of the film was Superman/Clark Kent himself. I thought he was great. If you took him, but put him into an action packed film, I think it'd work perfectly.
 
The thing with the Supergirl angle is that the ancient ship she was piloting that crashed on earth and ended up in a glacier did so thousands of years ago. Based on the prequel comic, people speculated that she would be the ancestor of the amazons, before they confirmed that Wonder Woman would be a magically empowered character, rather than descending from some tribe of diluted Kryptonians.

Dev Em also appears and dies in both the prequel comic and the MoS movie.

I'm guessing this news is either BS, the comic is not that canon or they're gonna need to do some serious retconning.
 
The thing with the Supergirl angle

Completely off-topic but I have to ask since I know many comicbook fans visit this thread:

What is the rationale for Superman and Supergirl not procreating?

I know she and supes are supposed to be siblings or cousins or something, but so what? They should buckle down and do it for the good of the species. Or if they're feeling squeamish, use artificial insemination. I mean they may need to use a diamond drill to pierce the uterus, but still.

It feels like the comic writers tried to sidestep the obvious development by making the characters related, but they really failed IMO. Have they ever touched further on this subject? Is Superman or Supergirl sterile, do they need a red sun for a successful gestation, or anything like that?

Same question with supes and Power Girl.
 
Completely off-topic but I have to ask since I know many comicbook fans visit this thread:

What is the rationale for Superman and Supergirl not procreating?

I know she and supes are supposed to be siblings or cousins or something, but so what? They should buckle down and do it for the good of the species. Or if they're feeling squeamish, use artificial insemination. I mean they may need to use a diamond drill to pierce the uterus, but still.

It feels like the comic writers tried to sidestep the obvious development by making the characters related, but they really failed IMO. Have they ever touched further on this subject? Is Superman or Supergirl sterile, do they need a red sun for a successful gestation, or anything like that?

Same question with supes and Power Girl.

And what happens after they procreate? Do you expect their kids to fuck? An Adam & Eve scenario doesn't work out well in the real world.
 
And what happens after they procreate? Do you expect their kids to fuck? An Adam & Eve scenario doesn't work out well in the real world.

Not like there haven't been societies with significant inbreeding throughout history. And if there are no alternatives, why not give it a shot?
 
Not like there haven't been societies with significant inbreeding throughout history. And if there are no alternatives, why not give it a shot?

...I'm being trolled here, aren't I? A genetic bottleneck of two individuals is a completely different scenario than any society you might be thinking of. Typically you need somewhere between 150-1000 unrelated individuals to maintain a genetically viable population. At two (closely related at that), you're screwed.
 
...I'm being trolled here, aren't I? A genetic bottleneck of two individuals is a completely different scenario than any society you might be thinking of. Typically you need somewhere between 150-1000 unrelated individuals to maintain a genetically viable population. At two (closely related at that), you're screwed.

I think it would be cute. Superlad would be a drooling but good-natured kid with superpowers and downs syndrome, who had to wear a bicycle helmet at all times because he kept crashing into skyscrapers.

But anyway, your answer is: because there isn't enough genetic diversity in just two people? Gotcha.
 
Son of man or son of God, you can't fuck your sister and expect much good to come of it.

-- PREACHER
 
Well then him dying in the prequel comic doesn't really matter. Who watches the credits?



They're from Krypton, not Kentucky!

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Update: October 1, 2015

George Miller Won't Direct Man of Steel 2, Confirms DC Meetings


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Last month, a rumor surfaced that director George Miller might be in line to direct a sequel to Man of Steel. Speaking with Digital Spy, Miller confirmed that he had conversations with Warner Bros. about directing a DC movie, but the likelihood of it happening is slim. Instead, Miller told the outlet he wants to go in the opposite direction after the whirlwind of Fury Road:

"I hope the next film I make is a very small film without any special effects and not many stunts."

So this means another Mad Max sequel is probably not Miller’s next movie. On the one hand that’s disappointing, since Miller’s handle on the action genre is positively masterful. But it’s also understandable. Fury Road was a hellish shoot as delays and tough conditions made the production very, very difficult.

It also makes sense that Miller wouldn’t be too interested in making a superhero movie with Warner Bros. Justice League: Mortal was his opportunity to start from scratch and begin building a newly established universe and series of films. Now, however, Snyder has already built a foundation for the DC Universe, so while Warner Bros. may take a more filmmaker-friendly approach to its various superhero movies, the director still has to somewhat color inside the lines. That doesn’t seem like the most exciting of possibilities for a director of Miller’s stature and talent.


George Miller Says He is Not Directing 'Man of Steel 2,' But Confirms DC Meetings
 
Update: October 5, 2015

BATMAN V SUPERMAN Viral Marketing Offers Details on Lex Luthor


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Alexander Joseph Luthor Jr. is a 31-year-old wunderkind who transformed an aging petrochemical and heavy machinery dinosaur into a tech darling of the Fortune 500 in what some call a superhuman feat.

This jeans-wearing genius is equally at ease rappelling the climbing wall in his employee “inspiration station” and coding in “the crucible”: the cutting-edge R & D lab where the baby-faced billionaire verbally extemporizes computer code like Miles Davis improvising a trumpet solo.

As we patiently wait our turn at the complimentary LexCorp vegan food truck (this day’s fare: pesto-olive pizza with raw almond crust), the son of Alexander Luthor Sr. – Lex Luthor – explains the evolution of LexCorp.

“Dad named the company after himself ten years before I made my unexpected entrance into his life. But investors seemed to respond to the idea of an adoring father building a legacy for his precious son. He used that to his advantage. It was a good shtick and, whatever else he was, he was a good businessman,” the younger Luthor explains.

Referring to Alexander Luthor Sr. as a “good businessman” is not unlike calling Napoleon Bonaparte a “competent conqueror.” The East German émigré, who passed away unexpectedly in 2000, arrived on our shores with nothing, but managed to carve out an empire of oil and machinery. By all accounts, he accomplished this feat through sheer grit and ferocity. His enemies, of which there are many, would also probably add “viciousness.”

“Well, Dad was a complicated guy,” his down-to-Earth son notes as we pass a tasteful display of his world-famous collection of meteorite crystals. “He came from a country where the government, in the guise of protector, had absolute control over the citizens. That drove him. I get it. Heck, I’d hate to see that sort of thing happen over here.”

But the achievements of LexCorp’s founder pale in comparison to the astonishing accomplishments of the younger Luthor, who was the youngest ever to be named Fortune’s Businessperson of the Year and included on the magazine’s list of the World’s 50 Greatest Leaders.

Taking the reins of the family business after the untimely death of his indomitable father, the prodigal son boldly changed the direction of the firm from oil and heavy machinery to tech. LexCorp has quickly become the second largest emerging technology corporation in the world next to Wayne Enterprises.

Partly, the success of this young company comes from Luthor’s willingness to go where Wayne fears to tread. Wayne Enterprises has shied away from military contracts in the last decade.

“It’s a necessity,” Luthor insists. “We live in the most dangerous point of time in all of human history. Statistically speaking, it’s a near certainty that another world-changing crisis is hurtling toward us like a speeding bullet. We have to be ready to defend ourselves. No civilization was ever conquered by having a strong military.”

As for the accusations of a few fringe outliers who accuse him of being a “war monger,” Luthor just laughs them off. “I don’t know very many ‘war mongers’ who have a foosball table in the conference room.”

In the face of Luthor’s self-effacing, easy charm, it’s tempting to see him as “just one of the guys” and not for what he truly is: a giver. Only when pressed does he admit that LexCorp is in the top three charitable corporations in America, just after Kord Industries and Wayne Enterprises. “It’s not a competition,” laughs Luthor. “Besides, I can’t hold a candle to those guys in the debauched billionaire playboy department!”

But he downplays the corporate generosity side of LexCorp. “Handouts don’t change the world. The true gift of LexCorp is our products. We are on the cusp of unveiling a technology that will change the world forever.”

When pressed, the youthful mogul will only hint. “It’s about safety. This is a product that will protect you, and everyone, from threats you don’t even know about yet. I don’t want to scare anybody… much. But there are a lot of threats out there, and they’re here today.”

It’s just lucky for us that, whatever the dangers lurking for us today, we have on our side Lex Luthor, a man of tomorrow.

http://fortune.com/contentfrom/2015/10/05/lex-luthor-jr/ntv_a/3dsBA58oDAfxgFA
 
...I'm being trolled here, aren't I? A genetic bottleneck of two individuals is a completely different scenario than any society you might be thinking of. Typically you need somewhere between 150-1000 unrelated individuals to maintain a genetically viable population. At two (closely related at that), you're screwed.

Adam n eve bro
 
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