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6/10 it was a lot better than I was expecting, I really liked the Batfleck. The biggest flaw in this film is Jesse Eisenberg, I don't think any one told him he was supposed to be playing Lex and not The Riddler. I was half expecting a real estate scam and what I got... I don't even know what I got.
 
even though i really enjoy Batman V Superman, i don't want Snyder to direct Man of Steel 2.

i like Sup being more fluffy and fun.
 
Update: May 17, 2016

Neal Adams Reveals What He Thought of BATMAN V SUPERMAN


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Artist and Writer Neal Adams certainly had a lot to say about DC's latest film, Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice.

In an interview with the Audibly Exquisite podcast, Adams was praising the Animated films that DC has been producing, specifically the way they are able to translate classic stories from the comics. That subject segued into the team asking what he thought of Batman V Superman.

"You really want to ask me that? Okay alright, I'll tell ya. I have held out such hope for that movie, because they tried to fix something of the last one, where you sit, everybody criticizes, uh, Superman practically destroys Metropolis fighting these Kryptonians when he could've taken them to the Sahara desert or to the moon or somewhere where you're not killing people, and so they're sitting there and basically saying okay, now Bruce Wayne Batman is blaming Superman for doing that, and so he wants to control him and to undo him. Unfortunately at the end, if we track the movie, he ends up killing him, duh! I mean it, is that the point we want to receive at the end. Now we know he's not dead, but the point is that if he challenged Superman and he's going to kill him, he kills him. It's just he uses some other weapon, ya know."

"So what has happened that's good about the move? Well, they tried to fix the previous movie. Mmmmm they didn't exactly. They tried to do Frank Miller's Batman and they sort of did it, except it's not 20 or 30 years int the future, which is the only way you can do that movie. They brought it in the past so the first thing you see is Bruce Wayne with Gray in his temples. First thing, you don't want to see Bruce Wayne with gray in his temples. I can have gray in my temples cuz I've earned it, but he is supposed to be 29 years old. so suddenly we don't know how old he is. Suddenly we don't know where this is taking place in the history. Suddenly we're, by solving this problem you make more problems. Now the convoluted problems that are made start affecting your plot. Now you start asking questions like oh, who's the villain at the end (Doomsday), yeah, you throw in Doomsday and you go whoa whoa wait a second, can't we have Doomsday have his own film? We just lost that film."

"Then we have Wonder Woman, who apparently can't do anything. I mean she doesn't do anything in the movie, she just looks good, ya know, but, and she does look very nice, those close-ups are fantastic, and she poses well, but she's got a lasso that I understand its latest power is to be able to control people, like she throws around somebody and they not only have to tell the truth but she controls them. Should've been the end of the movie. Wasn't, wasn't, so she was useless so why was she there? So now I'm given a teaser for a Wonder Woman movie that I want to see, I want all this to happen, but I can't understand why they keep on throwing it in in the wrong way, and so I'm not going to get it."

Famed Batman Artist Neal Adams Reveals What He Thought of BATMAN V SUPERMAN
 
Update: May 18, 2016

Warner Bros. Creates DC Films Division Due to BATMAN V SUPERMAN Fallout


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The fallout from Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice continues to ripple through Warner Bros.

The Burbank-based studio is making changes to the way it handles its DC Entertainment-centered films, giving oversight of the feature projects to a pair of executives and creating a dedicated division for the films. Current executive vp Jon Berg and Geoff Johns, DC's chief content officer who successfully launched the comics label's foray into television, will co-run the newly created DC Films, according to multiple sources.

This move is part of a broader refinement of executive roles at Warners, which has suffered a disappointing run of movies and has vexed producers and filmmakers, some of whom complain about a murky greenlight process.

Now, instead of a broad range of movies to oversee, executives will be charged with managing “genre streams" while reporting to Warner Bros. Pictures president Greg Silverman. In many cases, these streams formalize interests and specialties for specific executives. Courtenay Valenti, for example, will now oversee all Lego projects as well as the Harry Potter line that begins with November's Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. Senior production execs Jesse Ehrman and Niija Kuykendall will focus more on comedy/family and sci-fi/action, respectively, according to sources.

Further executive changes are anticipated, including a potential hire at the senior level.

Berg was already working on BvS, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman and Justice League. He also is a conduit to Ben Affleck, having worked with the actor-filmmaker on Argo and Live by Night, the crime thriller Affleck recently wrapped as director, writer and star for the studio.

Comics writer-turned-exec Johns, meanwhile, was key in working with showrunner Greg Berlanti on the ascension of superhero shows such as Arrow, The Flash and Supergirl and is the writer behind DC's upcoming Rebirth, the publishing side's reboot of its titles that will play out over the summer months. He is not leaving DC, according to sources, but adding film to his portfolio.
Johns will still report to DC Entertainment president Diane Nelson, while Berg will report to Silverman.

With Berg and Johns, Warner Bros. is attempting to unify the disparate elements of the DC movies with a seasoned film exec and a comics veteran that together hopefully can emulate the way Marvel Studios has produced its films under the vision of president Kevin Feige. But sources also say Warners still wants to remain a filmmaker-driven studio. As part of their new jobs, Berg and Johns will become producers on the Justice League movies.

The muted reception of BvS, from a box-office and critical point of view, is the flashpoint for the changes. The studio had high hopes for the movie, which pitted its top heroes against each other. The door was opened for director Zack Snyder to be involved in shaping the look and content of the entire DC line, which is scheduled through 2020. But critics and fans ripped into the first pic and especially Snyder for perceived missteps, including its heroes' unheroic behavior and the dark tone. BvS, which cost at least $300 million to make, has grossed less than $870 million worldwide since its March 25 release. Warners has said the film will be profitable but it was hardly the home run the studio had wanted.

In stark contrast, Marvel Studios’ Captain America: Civil War is heading towards $1 billion in less than two weeks of release. The movie also pitted heroes against each other, but Marvel's lighter tone and bright colors (while tackling more serious themes) are clearly resonating with audiences. So Warners is attempting a course correction.

'Batman v. Superman' Fallout: Warner Bros. Shakes Up Executive Roles (Exclusive)
 
First Affleck got elevated to an executive for Justice League, now this. It's hard to call a movie that made 870 mil ish a flop , but Let's face it a lot of people thought this was a Lock for 1 billion worldwide. Hell Zootopia is at 970 million and has slight chance to get there. Then Domestically Deadpool made a lot more than BvS, in the neighborhood of 30 million more domestic , then of course the last kick to the Balls for DC is that Civil War will past 1 billion and BvS's domestic take sometime this weekend. I'm reminded thst DC tried to play ball by claiming the May slot a couple of years ago even though Marvel already picked that date , then DC blinked and moved it to march , hopefully the perceived losses will facilitate a better product.
 
After rewatching it, it wasn't that bad but it wasn't that great either. Affleck was a solid pick for Batman, Cavill I don't know just doesn't fit as superman to me. Gal was pretty good also as Wonder Woman and Eisenberg was alright as the riddler. Visually it's a pretty good flick but the story could use more polishing. Not sure if Zack Snyder is a good pick for all the DC movies or whatever his contract is for.
 
First Affleck got elevated to an executive for Justice League, now this. It's hard to call a movie that made 870 mil ish a flop , but Let's face it a lot of people thought this was a Lock for 1 billion worldwide. Hell Zootopia is at 970 million and has slight chance to get there. Then Domestically Deadpool made a lot more than BvS, in the neighborhood of 30 million more domestic , then of course the last kick to the Balls for DC is that Civil War will past 1 billion and BvS's domestic take sometime this weekend. I'm reminded thst DC tried to play ball by claiming the May slot a couple of years ago even though Marvel already picked that date , then DC blinked and moved it to march , hopefully the perceived losses will facilitate a better product.


This is a move WB should have made at the start
 
Update: May 18, 2016

DC Films Co-Chief Promises to Bring Back Hope and Optimism to Future DC Movies


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The previous night’s report from The Hollywood Reporter outlines how Geoff Johns will be one of two people (the other being Warner executive vice president Jon Berg) in charge of a newly formed entity called DC Films, which will oversee future movies about Superman, Batman, the Flash, and other beloved properties.

Johns said he couldn’t confirm the story, but said that, “you can connect the dots.” Even though he declined to directly address that topic, he was more than willing to talk about where he thinks the DC brand needs to go. One phrase came out of his mouth over and over again: “hope and optimism.” It’s crystal clear that his vision for DC looks a lot brighter than the much-maligned grimness Zack Snyder provided earlier this year.

DC’s nascent cinematic universe has so far depicted Superman as an angry god; a violent, alien entity that needs to be kept in check. This morning, Johns offered a vastly different take on the character's archetype. “I think people make a mistake when they say, ‘Superman’s not relatable because he’s so powerful,’” he said. “I’m like, ‘Are you kidding me? He’s a farmboy from Kansas who moves to the city and just wants to do the best he can with what he’s got.’ That’s the most relatable character in the world."

New Co-Chief of DC Superhero Movies Geoff Johns Wants to Bring Back ‘Hope and Optimism’
 
They fucked up by having Snyder have anything to do with Superman. I am a firm believer he hates the character and his mythos and he fucks up the spirit of the character. When I think Superman I think hope and altruism , his Superman is gloomy and he tries to create this connection with him and Jesus which is wrong when look it up.
 
In stark contrast, Marvel Studios’ Captain America: Civil War is heading towards $1 billion in less than two weeks of release. The movie also pitted heroes against each other, but Marvel's lighter tone and bright colors (while tackling more serious themes) are clearly resonating with audiences. So Warners is attempting a course correction.

'Batman v. Superman' Fallout: Warner Bros. Shakes Up Executive Roles (Exclusive)

LOLZ at lighter tones and bright colors. More SJW worrying about people with poor eye sight.
 
They fucked up by having Snyder have anything to do with Superman. I am a firm believer he hates the character and his mythos and he fucks up the spirit of the character. When I think Superman I think hope and altruism , his Superman is gloomy and he tries to create this connection with him and Jesus which is wrong when look it up.

It is Superman in the Watchmen type of society. Snyder portrays Superman as someone who is holding the mantle of hope and altruism, while the rest of the world is playing dirty politics like Alexandor Luthor.
 
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