BATMAN V SUPERMAN (Dragonlord's Review, post #1)

[The Clinch]

Nothing better going on and this is on HBO.. Movie's kinda confusing and incredibly shitty.

Should have just went to bed early.

 

[CrimsonFan]

Finally got around to watching this sincets since its on HBO go.


Jeeze, so much hype and money spent. Those horrible late 90s Batman's were better than this

 

[The Clinch]

Lois Lane is incredibly annoying and always wherever the plot needs help.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: February 25, 2017

BATMAN V SUPERMAN and HILARY'S AMERICA Top Winners at 2017 Razzie Awards

WORST PICTURE
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Dirty Grandpa
Gods of Egypt
Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party (WINNER)
Independence Day: Resurgence
Zoolander No. 2

WORST ACTOR
Ben Affleck, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Gerard Butler, Gods of Egypt & London Has Fallen
Henry Cavill, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Robert De Niro, Dirty Grandpa
Dinesh D'Souza (as himself), Hillary's America (WINNER)
Ben Stiller, Zoolander No. 2

WORST ACTRESS
Megan Fox, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows
Tyler Perry, BOO! A Medea Halloween
Julia Roberts, Mother's Day
Becky Turner (as Hillary Clinton), Hillary's America (WINNER)
Naomi Watts, Divergent Series: Allegiant & Shut-In
Shailene Woodley, Divergent Series: Allegiant

WORST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Julianne Hough, Dirty Grandpa
Kate Hudson, Mother's Day
Aubrey Plaza, Dirty Grandpa
Jane Seymour, Fifty Shades of Black
Sela Ward, Independence Day: Resurgence
Kristen Wiig, Zoolander No. 2 (WINNER)

WORST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Nicolas Cage, Snowden
Johnny Depp, Alice Through the Looking Glass
Will Ferrell, Zoolander No. 2
Jesse Eisenberg, Batman v Superman (WINNER)
Jared Leto, Suicide Squad
Owen Wilson, Zoolander No. 2

WORST SCREEN COMBO
Ben Affleck & His BFF (Baddest Foe Forever) Henry Cavill, Batman v Superman (WINNER)
Any 2 Egyptian Gods or Mortals, Gods of Egypt
Johnny Depp & His Vomitously Vibrant Costume, Alice Through the Looking Glass
The Entire Cast of Once Respected Actors, Collateral Beauty
Tyler Perry & That Same Old Worn Out Wig, BOO! A Medea Halloween
Ben Stiller and His BFF (Barely Funny Friend) Owen Wilson, Zoolander No. 2

WORST DIRECTOR
Dinesh D'Souza and Bruce Schooley, Hillary's America (WINNER)
Roland Emmerich, Independence Day: Resurgence
Tyler Perry, BOO! A Medea Halloween
Alex Proyas, Gods of Egypt
Zack Snyder, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Ben Stiller, Zoolander No. 2

WORST SCREENPLAY
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (WINNER)
Dirty Grandpa
Gods of Egypt
Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party
Independence Day: Resurgence
Suicide Squad

WORST PREQUEL, REMAKE, RIP-OFF or SEQUEL
Alice Through the Looking Glass
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (WINNER)
Fifty Shades of Black
Independence Day: Resurgence
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows

RAZZIE REDEEMER AWARD
2014 Worst Supporting Actor nominee Mel Gibson, for his Oscar-nominated direction of Hacksaw Ridge

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...nominations-announced-worst-screenplay-966672

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: March 23, 2017

BATMAN V SUPERMAN Producer Brett Ratner Slams Rotten Tomatoes Over Film's Low Score

Director and producing mogul Brett Ratner says film critic aggregation site Rotten Tomatoes is a destructive force in Hollywood.

Speaking at the Sun Valley Film Festival last weekend, the X-Men: The Last Stand director wanted to make it clear he has plenty respect for traditional film critics. But he says reducing hundreds of reviews culled from print and online sources into a popularized aggregate score has become a toxic and often inaccurate label.

“The worst thing that we have in today’s movie culture is Rotten Tomatoes,” said Ratner, whose company RatPac Entertainment co-financed Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice (among dozens of other Warner Bros. titles). “I think it’s the destruction of our business. I have such respect and admiration for film criticism. When I was growing up film criticism was a real art. And there was intellect that went into that. And you would read Pauline’s Kael’s reviews, or some others, and that doesn’t exist anymore. Now it’s about a number. A compounded number of how many positives vs. negatives. Now it’s about, ‘What’s your Rotten Tomatoes score?’ And that’s sad, because the Rotten Tomatoes score was so low on Batman v Superman I think it put a cloud over a movie that was incredibly successful.”

Directed by Zack Snyder, Batman v Superman cost about $250 million to make and grossed nearly $900 million worldwide — despite being considered a disappointment (with a 27 percent score on Rotten Tomatoes).

“People don’t realize what goes into making a movie like that,” Ratner continued. “It’s mind-blowing. It’s just insane, it’s hurting the business, it’s getting people to not see a movie. In Middle America it’s, ‘Oh, it’s a low Rotten Tomatoes score so I’m not going to go see it because it must suck.’ But that number is an aggregate and one that nobody can figure out exactly what it means, and it’s not always correct. I’ve seen some great movies with really abysmal Rotten Tomatoes scores. What’s sad is film criticism has disappeared. It’s really sad.”

EW reached out to Rotten Tomatoes about Ratner’s thoughts, and Jeff Voris gave us a statement in reply — and it’s not as contrarian to the director’s stance as you might expect. “At Rotten Tomatoes, we completely agree that film criticism is valuable and important, and we’re making it easier than it has ever been for fans to access potentially hundreds of professional reviews for a given film or TV show in one place,” Voris wrote. “The Tomatometer score, which is the percentage of positive reviews published by professional critics, has become a useful decision-making tool for fans, but we believe it’s just a starting point for them to begin discussing, debating and sharing their own opinions.”

http://ew.com/movies/2017/03/23/ratner-tomatoes-scores/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

 

[Limbo Pete]

 

[Jesus X]

Brett Ratner can suck a bag of dicks for directing x-men the last stand and financing BvS. He owes me 30 bucks.

 

[Michaelangelo]

lol at Ratner defending this piece of shit film

not surprised a hack defending his own kind lmao

 

[HereticBD]

Update: March 23, 2017

BATMAN V SUPERMAN Producer Brett Ratner Slams Rotten Tomatoes Over Film's Low Score

Director and producing mogul Brett Ratner says film critic aggregation site Rotten Tomatoes is a destructive force in Hollywood.

Speaking at the Sun Valley Film Festival last weekend, the X-Men: The Last Stand director wanted to make it clear he has plenty respect for traditional film critics. But he says reducing hundreds of reviews culled from print and online sources into a popularized aggregate score has become a toxic and often inaccurate label.

“The worst thing that we have in today’s movie culture is Rotten Tomatoes,” said Ratner, whose company RatPac Entertainment co-financed Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice (among dozens of other Warner Bros. titles). “I think it’s the destruction of our business. I have such respect and admiration for film criticism. When I was growing up film criticism was a real art. And there was intellect that went into that. And you would read Pauline’s Kael’s reviews, or some others, and that doesn’t exist anymore. Now it’s about a number. A compounded number of how many positives vs. negatives. Now it’s about, ‘What’s your Rotten Tomatoes score?’ And that’s sad, because the Rotten Tomatoes score was so low on Batman v Superman I think it put a cloud over a movie that was incredibly successful.”

Directed by Zack Snyder, Batman v Superman cost about $250 million to make and grossed nearly $900 million worldwide — despite being considered a disappointment (with a 27 percent score on Rotten Tomatoes).

“People don’t realize what goes into making a movie like that,” Ratner continued. “It’s mind-blowing. It’s just insane, it’s hurting the business, it’s getting people to not see a movie. In Middle America it’s, ‘Oh, it’s a low Rotten Tomatoes score so I’m not going to go see it because it must suck.’ But that number is an aggregate and one that nobody can figure out exactly what it means, and it’s not always correct. I’ve seen some great movies with really abysmal Rotten Tomatoes scores. What’s sad is film criticism has disappeared. It’s really sad.”

EW reached out to Rotten Tomatoes about Ratner’s thoughts, and Jeff Voris gave us a statement in reply — and it’s not as contrarian to the director’s stance as you might expect. “At Rotten Tomatoes, we completely agree that film criticism is valuable and important, and we’re making it easier than it has ever been for fans to access potentially hundreds of professional reviews for a given film or TV show in one place,” Voris wrote. “The Tomatometer score, which is the percentage of positive reviews published by professional critics, has become a useful decision-making tool for fans, but we believe it’s just a starting point for them to begin discussing, debating and sharing their own opinions.”

http://ew.com/movies/2017/03/23/ratner-tomatoes-scores/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

The message has merit. The messenger does not.

I mean, I get it. The RT score has kind of become the perceived overall review of the film, instead of the aggregate of varying reviews it actually is. You also have respected critics' reviews being valued on the same level as just about any shit critic with a website and some hits.

Of all the fucking people to complain though...

 

[ufcfan4]

Ratner's kind of right though. It's deceptive. I mean I enjoy Rotten Tomatoes in the sense that it gives me a convenient place to find a bunch of reviews (same as Metacritic) but the number- the aggregate is confusing as hell. There's some arbitrary cutoff the separates a positive review from a negative review. You can end up having 90 percent fresh rating and yet many of the review are lukewarm, slightly positive yet people read 90 and think it must be an amazing film.

Works both ways- you could have a 40 percent that makes people think it's absolute shit when really some of the reviews might be on the fence or not abysmal.

 

[JBSchroeds]

I've never been shy of my hatred of the Tomatometer (the binary reduction is fucking stupid), but Bret Ratner is a crappy director trying to defend a shitty movie. It's unfortunate that the context of the criticism is so laughable because the criticism itself does have merit.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I've never watched or didn't watch a movie based on Rotten Tomatoes or IMDb.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Can we please get Michael Bay and Roland Emmerich to also weigh in on the validity of the TomatoMeter?

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I don't really care much about critic reviewz... I make my own mind up about whether I want to watch a movie & how much I like a movie or not & I'm rarely swayed by the thoughts or scorez of otherz.

It's interesting to see the responsez of other people... but in the end these works of art either vibe with us as an individual or they don't... it has very little if nothing to do with the comments & thoughts of otherz.

To be honest... I think a lot of people like to just spew venom just for the sake of stirring the pot & getting attention. I also feel that there are people so mixed up in the world of "critiquing" cinema... that they over analyze what is otherwize a nice ride in a movie. Pointing out silly little thingz about a well made piece of art when they could just overlook a simple thing & actually enjoy a flick.

Don't get me wrong... some moviez just don't do it for me... but I think the world of critiquing haz people hypnotized into watching moviez "as critiques" when they would probably just enjoy themselves more if they dropped all that & just took it in without all the cerebrum.

 

[pinkybrief]

BvS was awesome

 

[One MMA Fan]

I don't even use that site.. I used to check the IMDB score (currently boycotting since they removed the forum part) and bellow you had that metacritic rating you can get a general idea but in the end it's up to you if you want to watch it and how you rate it, taste is subjective.

 

[Synadil]

BvS was awesome

My dad always told me to respect other peoples opinions. Dad was occasionally a moron...

 

[Ikuza]

I think the main problem with RT is that people see it as a score (90% equals an A by critics) instead of a survey where you see what percentage of people might like a movie. I personally think 27% of critics enjoying BvS is extremely high because that movie was a train wreck, but that's my opinion (along with the other 73% of critics).

But yeah, fuck Ratner when it comes to anything unless he's making another Rush Hour.

 

[Zazen]

This movie was great, I enjoy Synder's visual style and he knows how to make a comic book movie feel epic on screen. I don't get that same feel when i watch a marvel movie. Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy are probably my favorite. I even prefer BvS over Civil war. Can't wait for Justice League and Wonder Woman.