Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR v.8

[SmilinDesperado]

It would be consistent with the movie considering he let many of the other heroes live inexplicably.

There was more to it then that. It's not black and white.
Again, Loki worked for Thanos before. He failed. Failure = Death.
One of Thanos' men mentioned this to Dr Strange when he was trying to get the Time stone from him. On that basis alone he should have known his time wws up.

Thanos faced the Guardians, some of the Avengers in Wakanda, and the Strange/Spiderman/Ironman. He didn't kill the Guardians because he wanted Gomorrah to cooperate with him--he also respected Quill.
He was ready to kill Stark before Dr Strange bargained for his life.
And by the time he reached Wakanda, he was untouchable --the final stone was right in front of him. There was no reason to kill. He just wanted the stone. ..and he gave no fucks about ripping it out of Vision's head

 

[SmilinDesperado]

So I don't get these characters. If Gammorah has some knowledge that she doesn't want Thanos to get, then why does she head straight towards where she knows Thanos is going to be?

She didn't know that Thanos had already knew that she knew
And they wanted to try and get the stone before Thanos.
The plan was still to save the universe

 

[PEB]

So I don't get these characters. If Gammorah has some knowledge that she doesn't want Thanos to get, then why does she head straight towards where she knows Thanos is going to be?

Don't try to figure this part out because there are so many holes it looks like Swiss cheese.

 

[LuchaBear]

My assumption is he thought that Thanos would never in a million years trust him to go to earth with the Black Order. Why would he? Thanos is smart and he knows that Loki, just moments ago, was willing to try to bait him into getting Hulk Smashed. I was really bothered by the obviousness of his move too, until I thought that he really had no other hand to play in that scenario. Ultra powerful telekinetic who could thwart his trickery right there, three other powerful entities surrounding him with weapons and Thanos, the most powerful being in the universe standing there before him and ready to kill him. It was a pure hail mary move and one not likely to pay off, but there wasn't much else he could do in that scenario.

I think they should have come up with something actually clever for the "God of mischief." Thanos could have still caught on. It was really underwhelming.

 

[LuchaBear]

What other option do you think he had? I'm not understanding what you thought was dumb.
The way I see it, he had 2 choices..he either tries his hail mary knife trick, or he just lays down and lets Thanos and crew curb stomp him.
If he somehow was able to kill Thanos and grab a stone, he could have a chance.
He had no other reason to believe that Thanos would let him live.

Why would the God Of Mischief have only 2 options? Shouldn't he have a bunch? Even in the situation he was in.. To try and say that his only option was the most used tactic of all time kind of shits on his powers. No illusions, no tricks? Why do we have to come up with the options?

What this really tells me is that they've done a horrible job with Loki when it comes to his powers and him fighting with out any of the stones. In Ragnarok, Valkyrie easily took him out and I think it can be now said that the only reason he went toe to toe with Cap was because of the Mind Stone.

He deserved better then to go out so underwhelming and yes he looked like a desperate idiot doing the obvious.

 

[LuchaBear]

I doubt Loki even had super strength in these movies. Only when he had the Scepter.

 

[heavyarms21]

I doubt Loki even had super strength in these movies. Only when he had the Scepter.

The Scepter is the Mind Stone , it doesn't augment his Physical Strength . Cap comments that Loki packed a wallop and implied he may have been in trouble if Iron Man didn't show up .

 

[Doughbelly]

I’m wondering where Disney stands on the rights to She-Hulk? I’d much rather see her than Asian Hulk. God that run was lame.

Yeah! Especially because she's kinda a total sloot.

 

[LuchaBear]

The Scepter is the Mind Stone , it doesn't augment his Physical Strength . Cap comments that Loki packed a wallop and implied he may have been in trouble if Iron Man didn't show up .

I know the Scepter is the Mind Stone, I'm saying Loki can't seem to do shit with out it. It's the reason he was able to take on Cap in the first place. I think it did give him strength, he was tossing Cap around like nothing and he hasn't done that at all since.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Why would the God Of Mischief have only 2 options? Shouldn't he have a bunch? Even in the situation he was in.. To try and say that his only option was the most used tactic of all time kind of shits on his powers. No illusions, no tricks? Why do we have to come up with the options?

What this really tells me is that they've done a horrible job with Loki when it comes to his powers and him fighting with out any of the stones. In Ragnarok, Valkyrie easily took him out and I think it can be now said that the only reason he went toe to toe with Cap was because of the Mind Stone.

He deserved better then to go out so underwhelming and yes he looked like a desperate idiot doing the obvious.

He isn't a god. He may be a god to the primitive humans that worshipped him, his brother, and father, but he is no God to Thanos.
Dude, lol Loki might as well be Black Widow facing Thanos. What illusions was Loki going to make? He is on a ship that was attacked. He is surrounded by Thanos and his goons....where was he going to go?

Lol And Loki did not deserve better. He was a jealous, little weasel. He went up against the wrong big guy, and he finally got his clock cleaned for it. It was a perfect ending for someone like Loki

And Valkyrie is from a well known warrior brigade. Why wouldn't she beat Loki? He isn't a warrior. He can protect himself, but he doesn't specialize in hand to hand combat

 

[SmilinDesperado]

I doubt Loki even had super strength in these movies. Only when he had the Scepter.

All Asgardians have enhanced strength and durability.
Loki survived getting Hulk smashed.
But Loki isn't a fighter. Hand to hand is not his preference of confrontation

 

[El Che]

I can't believe I waited until Sunday evening to watch it and avoid spoilers. Incredible movie. 9.5. I voted a 10 because I was glued to my seat and the 2 hours and 40 minutes went by so quick. I can understand a 9(at the very lowest) for not being completely perfect in all facets of a movie.

However maybe only a few movies in history can be perfect in all ways. Therefore a 9.5.

I am dying to see it again very soon to gather all my thoughts and digest everything consumed from as many angles as possible.

The Empire Strikes Back of this series/universe

 

[Left Hook Lacy]

Shit was amazing. Best movie ever.

Only minor complaints:
- Star Lord acting like a fool when they had Thanos beaten
- Widow competing so well with Proxima Midnight. But overall I loved the Black Order and I felt they were doing them justice. Maw beat Strange. Corvus and Proxima beat Vision and Wanda.

 

[heavyarms21]

I know the Scepter is the Mind Stone, I'm saying Loki can't seem to do shit with out it. It's the reason he was able to take on Cap in the first place. I think it did give him strength, he was tossing Cap around like nothing and he hasn't done that at all since.

Well in Dark World and Ragnarok he isn't exactly going up against Humans anymore from a Physical Standpoint he is well above mortals but none impressive against other Supers.

The most effective Physical action we get from him post Avengers is him killing a few of Hela's army.

 

[heavyarms21]

I think Bucky is Cap .v2, I think maybe Shuri has a shot at Iron Heart, Falcon will stay status quo.

I’m wondering where Disney stands on the rights to She-Hulk? I’d much rather see her than Asian Hulk. God that run was lame.

Is Banner Back ? I like Amadeus Cho but he has no business being the Hulk.

 

[minute bull]

What's the timeline on the fake gauntlet in Odin's vault to the time Thanos made the dwarf create the real one?

Since Thor talks in space, I'm sure the half remaining Asgardians will be fine.

 

[KnightTemplar]

The S
cepter is the Mind Stone , it doesn't augment his Physical Strength . Cap comments that Loki packed a wallop and implied he may have been in trouble if Iron Man didn't show up .

I doubt Loki even had super strength in these movies. Only when he had the Scepter.

Loki was a Frost Giant and, although small for his race, was at least as strong as the average Asgardian. Which makes him far stronger than low-level Enhanced Humans like Cap.

 

[KnightTemplar]

What's the timeline on the fake gauntlet in Odin's vault to the time Thanos made the dwarf create the real one?

Since Thor talks in space, I'm sure the half remaining Asgardians will be fine.

That's something I had a problem with; in the post-credits scene from AoU, we see Thanos put on the empty Infinity Gauntlet. So he must have massacred the Dwarves several years ago. Given how famous and important Nioavellir is, you'd have thought word would have reached Asgard or other planets before now.

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

Is Banner Back ? I like Amadeus Cho but he has no business being the Hulk.

Banner is back.

 

[heavyarms21]

Banner is back.

What was the ass pull to bring him back ? I'm glad he is back but they should have never killed him off to begin with.