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[CO68]

Meh, I'd call it passion.

Well, I wouldn't call having a passion for hating things a positive thing. I definitely have a passion, but thank God it's not to try and look for asinine reasons to hate on something.

Piece of shit Whedon? The hell? Pretty much everything I've seen from Whedon has been quality. Why in the hell would AoU be a slap in the face to everyone who saw it? Most people liked it. It's not a hated movie at all. It has a pretty good rating wherever you look. I think it's a shame that some people are so damn dismissive and can't even appreciate all the hard work that goes into making these things. Sure, it has some missteps, but it's a pretty good movie. Not to mention these type of movies have restraints. You hate on Whedon, but he didn't have full creative control over the movies. There were things he had to put in there.

Worst film Marvel has ever made? I hope at the very least you're talking about the MCU, otherwise your opinion is a slap in the face to anyone alive. Even in the MCU, I'd put it above Thor 1 & 2, Cap 1, and IM 2 & 3. Iron Man 3 is the bottom of the MCU totem pole, but even then I wouldn't call it absolute dogshit. That's just something a salty kid who got his toy taken away would say. If that is absolute dogshit, then what are movies that are actually absolute dogshit? What do you consider the last Fantastic Four movie?

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Word on the street is that on top of all that Perlmutter is an insufferable and irredeemable asshole.

Yes, within the industry (comics and at one time film) he is hated by most.

There are plenty of stories about him. I read a good one involving him and Stan Lee


He is the type of bean counting executive that would water down any film given the return would be slightly more profits. Artistic value means absolutely nothing to people like him.

One thing I read is that he is/was the driving force behind the INHUMANS addition to marvel tv and movies.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Well, I wouldn't call having a passion for hating things a positive thing. I definitely have a passion, but thank God it's not to try and look for asinine reasons to hate on something.

Piece of shit Whedon? The hell? Pretty much everything I've seen from Whedon has been quality. Why in the hell would AoU be a slap in the face to everyone who saw it? Most people liked it. It's not a hated movie at all. It has a pretty good rating wherever you look. I think it's a shame that some people are so damn dismissive and can't even appreciate all the hard work that goes into making these things. Sure, it has some missteps, but it's a pretty good movie. Not to mention these type of movies have restraints. You hate on Whedon, but he didn't have full creative control over the movies. There were things he had to put in there.

Worst film Marvel has ever made? I hope at the very least you're talking about the MCU, otherwise your opinion is a slap in the face to anyone alive. Even in the MCU, I'd put it above Thor 1 & 2, Cap 1, and IM 2 & 3. Iron Man 3 is the bottom of the MCU totem pole, but even then I wouldn't call it absolute dogshit. That's just something a salty kid who got his toy taken away would say. If that is absolute dogshit, then what are movies that are actually absolute dogshit? What do you consider the last Fantastic Four movie?

Lol at people having "hating things" as a hobby. Terrible life that must be. Sheesh

 

[KnightTemplar]

What comic is that from?

It was from the Thanos limited series.

 

[DM1982]

You will retract that scurrilous libel at once!!!!
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Are you offended on behalf of Peter Dinklage.................... or Thanos' dick?


Either way, nahhhh.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Well, I wouldn't call having a passion for hating things a positive thing. I definitely have a passion, but thank God it's not to try and look for asinine reasons to hate on something.

Piece of shit Whedon? The hell? Pretty much everything I've seen from Whedon has been quality. Why in the hell would AoU be a slap in the face to everyone who saw it? Most people liked it. It's not a hated movie at all. It has a pretty good rating wherever you look. I think it's a shame that some people are so damn dismissive and can't even appreciate all the hard work that goes into making these things. Sure, it has some missteps, but it's a pretty good movie. Not to mention these type of movies have restraints. You hate on Whedon, but he didn't have full creative control over the movies. There were things he had to put in there.

Worst film Marvel has ever made? I hope at the very least you're talking about the MCU, otherwise your opinion is a slap in the face to anyone alive. Even in the MCU, I'd put it above Thor 1 & 2, Cap 1, and IM 2 & 3. Iron Man 3 is the bottom of the MCU totem pole, but even then I wouldn't call it absolute dogshit. That's just something a salty kid who got his toy taken away would say. If that is absolute dogshit, then what are movies that are actually absolute dogshit? What do you consider the last Fantastic Four movie?

AoU was a disappointment. Certainly not a bad movie. It had it's good points, but also serious flaws.

- The Big Bad has always been the MCU's weak point - the only ones that stand out are Loki and the guy in my avatar - and Ultron was no exception. He should have been a creepier version of the Terminator, but even with Spader playing him was distinctly Meh. There was no real sense of threat. And the final battle had the same problem as the first Avengers movie: the team spend most of their time murking a horde of disposable cannon fodder.

Strucker, who actually created Hydra in the Comics, is portrayed here as a coward, so unimportant he's not even killed on-screen. A waste of a talented actor.

- Whedon is rightly held in high regard for his ability to write zingers, but in AoU he turned it up to 11. Way too many one-liners from Stark. RDJ is a great actor, and when given a decent script - CW for example - can invest Stark with genuine emotion and pathos.

- Thor and Hulk were de-powered. Hulk losing the fight to Iron Man, even though sucker-punching the Hulk would just make him angry(and therefor stronger)was bad enough. Reducing Thor to comedy relief who had to be rescued by Vision was even worse.

- The visions the various Avengers see while under Wanda's spell added nothing to the film. They may help set up future MCU films, but in AoU itself I found them boring and distracting.

- Too much angst from Banner. Yeah, I get your life sucks, bro. I wake up every morning and thank God I don't have Superpowers and a smoking hot Russian super-assassin girlfriend who wants to bump uglies with me. I feel your pain

Personally, I rate all the Cap movies, the first Thor and Avengers and IM 1 & 3 above AoU. Yes, you read that right: I actually liked IM3. Not least because the Big Bad's plan actually made sense. Instead of conquering or destroying the world, he simply wanted to start War on Terror II and make shitloads of money out of it. My kind of guy.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Worst three marvel movies

1. Dr. Strange
2. AoU
3. IM3

 

[CO68]

AoU was a disappointment. Certainly not a bad movie. It had it's good points, but also serious flaws.

- The Big Bad has always been the MCU's weak point - the only ones that stand out are Loki and the guy in my avatar - and Ultron was no exception. He should have been a creepier version of the Terminator, but even with Spader playing him was distinctly Meh. There was no real sense of threat. And the final battle had the same problem as the first Avengers movie: the team spend most of their time murking a horde of disposable cannon fodder.

The movies aren't really about the villains. They didn't want to give that much focus to the villains because there wasn't really a reason to. They've been building towards Thanos. Think of those villains like mini-bosses from video games. They're there for a reason, but they're not the focus. Loki makes sense because he was going to be in multiple movies and he could play both sides. Same for the Winter Soldier. I liked most of the villains for what they were. Would I have liked for them to do more justice to some like Ultron? Sure, but they ain't got time for all that. The final battle in Avengers carries a lot of weight. It's still brought up in subsequent movies and shows. The actions of the villains in the movies have lasting ramifications for future movies and shows.

I'd like to see them do some villain-centric movies, but they might not be willing to take a risk like that.

Strucker, who actually created Hydra in the Comics, is portrayed here as a coward, so unimportant he's not even killed on-screen. A waste of a talented actor.

Well, he isn't really that important of a character and even less so in the MCU. But hey, they did use his son as a villain on AoS. They wasted an Academy Award winning actor on a character they turned into a joke for some unknown reason, but you don't seem to mind IM3 as much even though they committed a far, far bigger crime. Hell, they later apologized by making a one-shot film.

- Too much angst from Banner. Yeah, I get your life sucks, bro. I wake up every morning and thank God I don't have Superpowers and a smoking hot Russian super-assassin girlfriend who wants to bump uglies with me. I feel your pain

Banner is always angry, bro. That's his secret. And of course he'd be angry for various reasons. He's a green, raging ball of gamma-infused testosterone.

Personally, I rate all the Cap movies, the first Thor and Avengers and IM 1 & 3 above AoU. Yes, you read that right: I actually liked IM3. Not least because the Big Bad's plan actually made sense. Instead of conquering or destroying the world, he simply wanted to start War on Terror II and make shitloads of money out of it. My kind of guy.

He wanted to take over the world because Stark once stood him up and the poor sap stood on a roof for like an hour. Him and Mandarin are by far the worst villains they put in the IM movies. Senator Stern, who's not even in any IM movie that much is a better villain than those 2. Killian's your kind of guy, but what about Stane and Hammer? They both tried to fuck Stark over for $. Stane provided terrorists with serious weaponry while Hammer broke a terrorist out of prison so he could fuck with Stark some more and try to lead his company over Stark Industries.

I'll add in that I don't have an issue with them nerfing Hulk and Thor for the movies. You can run into too many problems when you have characters that can be too powerful on a team with regular humans.

 

[KnightTemplar]

The movies aren't really about the villains. They didn't want to give that much focus to the villains because there wasn't really a reason to. They've been building towards Thanos. Think of those villains like mini-bosses from video games. They're there for a reason, but they're not the focus. Loki makes sense because he was going to be in multiple movies and he could play both sides. Same for the Winter Soldier. I liked most of the villains for what they were. Would I have liked for them to do more justice to some like Ultron? Sure, but they ain't got time for all that. The final battle in Avengers carries a lot of weight. It's still brought up in subsequent movies and shows. The actions of the villains in the movies have lasting ramifications for future movies and shows.

I'd like to see them do some villain-centric movies, but they might not be willing to take a risk like that.



Well, he isn't really that important of a character and even less so in the MCU. But hey, they did use his son as a villain on AoS. They wasted an Academy Award winning actor on a character they turned into a joke for some unknown reason, but you don't seem to mind IM3 as much even though they committed a far, far bigger crime. Hell, they later apologized by making a one-shot film.



Banner is always angry, bro. That's his secret. And of course he'd be angry for various reasons. He's a green, raging ball of gamma-infused testosterone.



He wanted to take over the world because Stark once stood him up and the poor sap stood on a roof for like an hour. Him and Mandarin are by far the worst villains they put in the IM movies. Senator Stern, who's not even in any IM movie that much is a better villain than those 2. Killian's your kind of guy, but what about Stane and Hammer? They both tried to fuck Stark over for $. Stane provided terrorists with serious weaponry while Hammer broke a terrorist out of prison so he could fuck with Stark some more and try to lead his company over Stark Industries.

1)Heroes are defined by their Villains. Without a strong Big Bad, the Hero's journey can become boring, even meaningless - yes, looking at you, Thor: Dark World.

2)If Banner is full of Gamma-Test, why not let Natasha bang, bro? A ridiculously hot Super Spy/Assassin you can go Raw Dog with due to her training? He should be hitting that with the force of 10,000 exploding suns. Banner didn't come across as angry, just self-pitying. Like the kind of Celeb who whines about how being rich and famous makes them miserable.

3)Killian went from a nerd who could barely walk to a Jacked terrorist master mind with superpowers who made the US President his prison bitch. Hammer was a dweeb who's weapons didn't work half the time. Stane, I'll grant you, was pretty cool.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Stane was the best IM villain. Which is why IM was the best of the trilogy.

I wish Stane didn't die and became a behind the scenes character, possibly hydra.

 

[CO68]

1)Heroes are defined by their Villains. Without a strong Big Bad, the Hero's journey can become boring, even meaningless - yes, looking at you, Thor: Dark World.

Heroes aren't merely defined by their villains. They can be enhanced by them, but they don't have to be defined. Any strong character doesn't need to rely on a villain to be good. There are many things to overcome than just a villain.

2)If Banner is full of Gamma-Test, why not let Natasha bang, bro? A ridiculously hot Super Spy/Assassin you can go Raw Dog with due to her training? He should be hitting that with the force of 10,000 exploding suns. Banner didn't come across as angry, just self-pitying. Like the kind of Celeb who whines about how being rich and famous makes them miserable.

Because that would be death by snu snu for BW.

3)Killian went from a nerd who could barely walk to a Jacked terrorist master mind with superpowers who made the US President his prison bitch. Hammer was a dweeb who's weapons didn't work half the time. Stane, I'll grant you, was pretty cool.

Hammer was fucking awesome. He created War Machine. Hammer just isn't a super-genius with cheat codes like Stark. This scene alone puts him >>>>> Killian


Potts and BW wanted a piece of that after seeing his dance moves

 

[Adamant]

Well, I wouldn't call having a passion for hating things a positive thing. I definitely have a passion, but thank God it's not to try and look for asinine reasons to hate on something.

Piece of shit Whedon? The hell? Pretty much everything I've seen from Whedon has been quality. Why in the hell would AoU be a slap in the face to everyone who saw it? Most people liked it. It's not a hated movie at all. It has a pretty good rating wherever you look. I think it's a shame that some people are so damn dismissive and can't even appreciate all the hard work that goes into making these things. Sure, it has some missteps, but it's a pretty good movie. Not to mention these type of movies have restraints. You hate on Whedon, but he didn't have full creative control over the movies. There were things he had to put in there.

Worst film Marvel has ever made? I hope at the very least you're talking about the MCU, otherwise your opinion is a slap in the face to anyone alive. Even in the MCU, I'd put it above Thor 1 & 2, Cap 1, and IM 2 & 3. Iron Man 3 is the bottom of the MCU totem pole, but even then I wouldn't call it absolute dogshit. That's just something a salty kid who got his toy taken away would say. If that is absolute dogshit, then what are movies that are actually absolute dogshit? What do you consider the last Fantastic Four movie?

Does my hurtful opinion bother you?

 

[CO68]

Does my hurtful opinion bother you?

Meh, I'd call it passion.

 

[Adamant]

Meh, I'd call it passion.

That's a lot of passion over an opinion.

 

[CO68]

Yeah, it's weird when someone has a discussion on a messageboard...

 

[Mike]

1)Heroes are defined by their Villains. Without a strong Big Bad, the Hero's journey can become boring, even meaningless - yes, looking at you, Thor: Dark World.

2)If Banner is full of Gamma-Test, why not let Natasha bang, bro? A ridiculously hot Super Spy/Assassin you can go Raw Dog with due to her training? He should be hitting that with the force of 10,000 exploding suns. Banner didn't come across as angry, just self-pitying. Like the kind of Celeb who whines about how being rich and famous makes them miserable.

3)Killian went from a nerd who could barely walk to a Jacked terrorist master mind with superpowers who made the US President his prison bitch. Hammer was a dweeb who's weapons didn't work half the time. Stane, I'll grant you, was pretty cool.

You're sort of missing the entire point of Banner's character. He had psychological problems before being turned into the hulk.


He has no idea when he will lose control, and how many people will be hurt or killed when he does. And he's a compassionate person that's put considerable effort into learning to control his temper his entire life, because he doesn't want to hurt anyone.


He's not the kind of guy that would go "oh well I have a hot girlfriend though, so it's all good" If anything having a woman around makes it even worse for him, he tries not to get too attached to anyone out of fear he might eventually hurt them directly, or just through being part of his life.

 

[Mike]

Well, I wouldn't call having a passion for hating things a positive thing. I definitely have a passion, but thank God it's not to try and look for asinine reasons to hate on something.

Piece of shit Whedon? The hell? Pretty much everything I've seen from Whedon has been quality. Why in the hell would AoU be a slap in the face to everyone who saw it? Most people liked it. It's not a hated movie at all. It has a pretty good rating wherever you look. I think it's a shame that some people are so damn dismissive and can't even appreciate all the hard work that goes into making these things. Sure, it has some missteps, but it's a pretty good movie. Not to mention these type of movies have restraints. You hate on Whedon, but he didn't have full creative control over the movies. There were things he had to put in there.

Worst film Marvel has ever made? I hope at the very least you're talking about the MCU, otherwise your opinion is a slap in the face to anyone alive. Even in the MCU, I'd put it above Thor 1 & 2, Cap 1, and IM 2 & 3. Iron Man 3 is the bottom of the MCU totem pole, but even then I wouldn't call it absolute dogshit. That's just something a salty kid who got his toy taken away would say. If that is absolute dogshit, then what are movies that are actually absolute dogshit? What do you consider the last Fantastic Four movie?

That guy hates pretty much everything and is always absurdly critical.

 

[mushishi]

Stane was the best IM villain. Which is why IM was the best of the trilogy.

I wish Stane didn't die and became a behind the scenes character, possibly hydra.

That's one thing I don't get about most superhero films: why kill off the antagonists? Why not let them escape to fight another day?

 

[Ikuza]

That's one thing I don't get about most superhero films: why kill off the antagonists? Why not let them escape to fight another day?

There's no need. They're not selling an unlimited supply of comics that will last decades upon decades. They make a few movies every year with a limited lifespan. Thanks to the vast amount of characters already fleshed out, they'll never run out of villains before they re-boot or take a break or have to come up with original antagonists. Besides, most people hate the villains presented. Why keep around shitty shadows of great characters? What Marvel needs to do is get better at writing one off villains in general.

 

[Adamant]

Yeah, it's weird when someone has a discussion on a messageboard...

It's only weird when someone gets rustled.

You're sort of missing the entire point of Banner's character. He had psychological problems before being turned into the hulk.


He has no idea when he will lose control, and how many people will be hurt or killed when he does. And he's a compassionate person that's put considerable effort into learning to control his temper his entire life, because he doesn't want to hurt anyone.


He's not the kind of guy that would go "oh well I have a hot girlfriend though, so it's all good" If anything having a woman around makes it even worse for him, he tries not to get too attached to anyone out of fear he might eventually hurt them directly, or just through being part of his life.

I'm getting pretty sick of the whole "Banner is afraid of Hulk" bit. Not just from the MCU, but in general, all the way back to the 70s/80s TV Show with Bixby. (I'll leave the discussion to live-action only) But almost every single time Hulk shows up he ends up helping/saving people or putting down badguys. After so many years of Hulk actually being good it's kinda silly for Banner to still be afraid of him and still want to hide him away and rid himself of the beast. I'm ready for a story where Banner fully embraces the Hulk and no longer fears him and no longer wants to get rid of him but is happy to have him there for when the situation calls for it. Hell, let's go all out and actually have Banner celebrate Hulk, much like Peter Parker has celebrated Spider-Man.

I mean, really, I'm struggling to recall a single time Hulk purposely hurt an innocent person, outside of being under a spell or mind control. So hopefully we reach a point where this is no longer an issue.

That guy hates pretty much everything and is always absurdly critical.

There's a lot of shit out there and none of it gets a free pass. Especially if it's something I was looking forward to. But really, I genuinely loathed AoU.