Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Thread v.10

[bosox32]

Yeah he's not shown doing much before he has two of the stones. not sure how powerful he is without them. I'm guessing movie Thanos only has superhuman strength and durability without the stones.

That battle vs Hulk was done without the use of the power stone. Throughout the film any and every time he would use the stones powers the camera would make a point of shouwing you the gauntlet and stone in use lighting up.

Thanos being able to take out the Hulk fairly easily without any power up surely places him on the top of the power pedestal. That being said i didn’t like the Thor axe shot as Thanos should have been able to evade that with ease. But I’m sure the point was to give the appearance that the Avengers might win.

 

[Magooglie]

I felt the same way after my second watch. Action is immediate with Thanos v Hulk and NYC battle. We assume the action will slow but then we get the surprise attack on Vision/SW. After that there is quite a lull as the chest pieces are moving IM/Strange traveling To Titan, Thor travels to get Stormbreaker, Thanos getting the Soul gem, and the rest of the Avengers going to Wakanda.

Next battle isn’t until Titan maybe 35-45 minutes later.

I thought the Guardians vs Avengers fight was a nice little addition in between the villains vs heroes stuff.

 

[Magooglie]

That battle vs Hulk was done without the use of the power stone. Throughout the film any and every time he would use the stones powers the camera would make a point of shouwing you the gauntlet and stone in use lighting up.

Thanos being able to take out the Hulk fairly easily without any power up surely places him on the top of the power pedestal. That being said i didn’t like the Thor axe shot as Thanos should have been able to evade that with ease. But I’m sure the point was to give the appearance that the Avengers might win.

They should have let Cap chop Thanos in the chest with the axe.

 

[Mike]

That battle vs Hulk was done without the use of the power stone. Throughout the film any and every time he would use the stones powers the camera would make a point of shouwing you the gauntlet and stone in use lighting up.

Thanos being able to take out the Hulk fairly easily without any power up surely places him on the top of the power pedestal. That being said i didn’t like the Thor axe shot as Thanos should have been able to evade that with ease. But I’m sure the point was to give the appearance that the Avengers might win.

Yeah in the comics he can solo the hulk with just his strength and durability. I have a hunch it's the same case for movie Thanos. As you said he didn't appear to use the gauntlet at all. I took it as him intentionally not using it to prove a point. Hulk is their deus ex machina and he let them know from the start, I can take out your secret weapon without even using the stones. Thor and Loki looked properly shook afterwards

 

[Mike]

I thought the Guardians vs Avengers fight was a nice little addition in between the villains vs heroes stuff.

Yeah that's a classic trope from the marvel team up stories, was happy to see them include it in the movies. In the comics there's always a brief misunderstanding that allow us to see a hero vs hero fight.

 

[minute bull]

I think audience perception had a big factor in how things went down, film makers were reacting against that perception that superheroes were naturally very camp by pushing as far in the other direction as possible.

Maybe. But, I'm outlining for you specific causes and effects, not just the perceived one.

If theres been a reaction I would say its actually more something like Logan that goes back to that Nolan like self consciously serious tone or arguably even beyond it.

For instance, LOGAN isn't a response to the overall campy quality of comics but to a very specific desire to give fans what they say they've wanted from a Wolverine movie. It wasn't serious, it didn't take it self too seriously. It was super-melodramatic and unabashedly R-rated. But, to your point -- yeah it definitely wasn't camp.

 

[SaiWa]

I’ve seen multiple people in this thread answer this question by listing his powers from the comics. However, in the MCU the simple answer is we don’t know, they haven’t shown what he’s capable of and my guess is the answer is going to be not much.

I’m sure he’s fairly strong but he’s not going to be Hulk or Thor strong, he won’t be able to fly, he won’t be able to project energy, and he won’t have incredible durability. He’ll just be big and strong but mortal.

I am going to check on my next viewing but pretty sure Thanos destroyed Hulk in the opening scene without using the power gem. He’s easily as strong if not stronger than hulk it’s just that he’s also an expert fighter. The moves he used against hulk were sharp and precise instead of the mindless crazy barrages of haymakers technique that hulk favors.

 

[Mike]

I am going to check on my next viewing but pretty sure Thanos destroyed Hulk in the opening scene without using the power gem. He’s easily as strong if not stronger than hulk it’s just that he’s also an expert fighter. The moves he used against hulk were sharp and precise instead of the mindless crazy barrages of haymakers technique that hulk favors.

yeah as @bosox32 said he doesn't use the stone at all. A henchmen even starts to move in and Maw says "let him have his fun" He was punking the Hulk out for the fun of it and everyone in the room knew it

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Maybe. But, I'm outlining for you specific causes and effects, not just the perceived one.

Unless we look into the minds of those involved with making the films we can't know for sure but really I think what I outlined is very specific in terms of cause and effect.

For instance, LOGAN isn't a response to the overall campy quality of comics but to a very specific desire to give fans what they say they've wanted from a Wolverine movie. It wasn't serious, it didn't take it self too seriously. It was super-melodramatic and unabashedly R-rated. But, to your point -- yeah it definitely wasn't camp.

I wouldn't say it was super melodramatic, it included a lot of drama but it was also I'd say rather more down to earth than is typical of Marvel in its depictions outside of perhaps the two Cap sequels.

Playing to fans of Wolverine might have been part of its success but along with its obvious quality I tend to think it was also because it stood out in the current environment in a way he wouldn't have were it released say in the late 00's.

 

[D Train]

Are the upcoming Netflix shows going to predate IG?

 

[Magooglie]

Are the upcoming Netflix shows going to predate IG?

I don't know but this is the perfect time to erase Iron Fist.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

That battle vs Hulk was done without the use of the power stone. Throughout the film any and every time he would use the stones powers the camera would make a point of shouwing you the gauntlet and stone in use lighting up.

Thanos being able to take out the Hulk fairly easily without any power up surely places him on the top of the power pedestal. That being said i didn’t like the Thor axe shot as Thanos should have been able to evade that with ease. But I’m sure the point was to give the appearance that the Avengers might win.

Yeah in the comics he can solo the hulk with just his strength and durability. I have a hunch it's the same case for movie Thanos. As you said he didn't appear to use the gauntlet at all. I took it as him intentionally not using it to prove a point. Hulk is their deus ex machina and he let them know from the start, I can take out your secret weapon without even using the stones. Thor and Loki looked properly shook afterwards

I am going to check on my next viewing but pretty sure Thanos destroyed Hulk in the opening scene without using the power gem. He’s easily as strong if not stronger than hulk it’s just that he’s also an expert fighter. The moves he used against hulk were sharp and precise instead of the mindless crazy barrages of haymakers technique that hulk favors.

At this point this is speculation. Did they put an emphasis on showing Thanos was using the Stone against Hulk? No. Does that mean he wasn’t amped up by it? Not necessarily. We’ll have to wait and see. If he loses the gauntlet in the next movie and say Drax beats the shit out of Thanos we’ll know he was using PEDs (power stone) against Hulk all along.

 

[ufcfan4]

I thought the Guardians vs Avengers fight was a nice little addition in between the villains vs heroes stuff.

It was really cool too cause it showed you how legit Quill is. He looked better in that little scuffle than anyone in my opinion.

 

[minute bull]

Unless we look into the minds of those involved with making the films we can't know for sure but really I think what I outlined is very specific in terms of cause and effect.

From a limited audience perspective. How old are you?

Playing to fans of Wolverine might have been part of its success but along with its obvious quality I tend to think it was also because it stood out in the current environment in a way he wouldn't have were it released say in the late 00's.

Back in the 00s, Jackman was still of the mind of making a Wolverine for the Kids.

 

[Magooglie]

It was really cool too cause it showed you how legit Quill is. He looked better in that little scuffle than anyone in my opinion.

He's the #1 tactical genius. Though I still don't like him losing his cool. They played that card already in GOTG2 and it didn't make me think he loved Gamora any more than what they already showed. And he looked like a dunce to everyone else.

 

[minute bull]

He's the #1 tactical genius. Though I still don't like him losing his cool. They played that card already in GOTG2 and it didn't make me think he loved Gamora any more than what they already showed. And he looked like a dunce to everyone else.

Isn't that thing about Quill? Everyone thinks he's clueless and inept except the people who really know him (and even then, sometimes). It was nice to find out Gunn pretty much wrote the GOTG dialogue for INFINITY WAR.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

He's the #1 tactical genius. Though I still don't like him losing his cool. They played that card already in GOTG2 and it didn't make me think he loved Gamora any more than what they already showed. And he looked like a dunce to everyone else.

I dont see how? consistency of the characters is what the MCU does well. Star Lord has been shown to react emotionally even to the detriment of others. In vol 2 he risked his entire team shooting his dad in the face.... and in IW he fucked up the plan to get the IG off Thanos

he reacts emotionally, thats who he is

 

[MikeMcMann]

At this point this is speculation. Did they put an emphasis on showing Thanos was using the Stone against Hulk? No. Does that mean he wasn’t amped up by it? Not necessarily. We’ll have to wait and see. If he loses the gauntlet in the next movie and say Drax beats the shit out of Thanos we’ll know he was using PEDs (power stone) against Hulk all along.

^This.

man do people like to jump from speculation to stating things as if fact quickly on this site. We simply cannot be sure if Thanos was using the Stone against Hulk or not. He could have completely powered up at the start of the battle with Thor, et al and still be powered up.

 

[Magooglie]

I dont see how? consistency of the characters is what the MCU does well. Star Lord has been shown to react emotionally even to the detriment of others. In vol 2 he risked his entire team shooting his dad in the face.... and in IW he fucked up the plan to get the IG off Thanos

he reacts emotionally, thats who he is

Even Drax told him to chill out and Drax has consistently been the impetuous idiot of the Guardians when it comes to avenging his family. You get 1 mom card but after that it's too much for me. He's not quite team leader yet or ship captain and it seemed like he'd be heading in that direction. But now he's the guy that ruined the plan in front of the Avengers. He also just pistol whipper Thanos, which was weak.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Quit being sad. Groot is a tree ffs who cares