AVENGERS: ENDGAME (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen AVENGERS: ENDGAME, how would you rate it?

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Anung Un Rama said:
It may have restored that timeline, but that interference should have created an alternate timeline where Loki escaped..
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I'm guessing that this is what the Loki Disney series might be based on, an alternate timeline.
 
heavyarms21 said:
Althgough I still have annoyance with certain choices they made and after two viewings IW is the tighter smoother Movie to me. This Movie presented a Holy Shit we've reached the end feel , this is the Epitome of an Event Movie done right .
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I would have IW a little step higher, but not much.. But I think what IW set up is what wasn't fully delivered.
 
Can someone explain what happened with Gamora? I don't remember seeing her after she kneed starlord in the nuts.

Did Stark make everyone from a fifferent timeline (including thanos, his army and gamora) disappear or did she run away or what?
 
Limbo Pete said:
I'm honestly never getting over this movie. Never.
Waited my whole life to see that shit and it gave me exactly- exactly- what I wanted.
There's nothing more I could possibly ask for.
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Agreed, few moments I didn’t vibe with but as a whole, damn what a fucking ending.
 
LC Shepard said:
Can someone explain what happened with Gamora? I don't remember seeing her after she kneed starlord in the nuts.

Did Stark make everyone from a fifferent timeline (including thanos, his army and gamora) disappear or did she run away or what?
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My impression was that Gamor died when Tony snapped Team Thanos to dust because Gamora, who just made nice with her sister, wasn't at the funeral, AND Quill is looking for her in space (how would she have gotten off the planet?). I figured they were tracking Gamora that was no-longer killed by Thanos.

BUT... Banner's snap only reversed what happened immediately after the snap, and nothing that happened in the 5 years since, so that would mean Thanos still kills Gamora. Online sites and a few posters ( @GoldenAzazel, @Dragonlordxxxxx ) say that 2014 Gamora went off on her own after the battle. They are probably right, but so am I just because.
 
Amerikuracana said:
I would have IW a little step higher, but not much.. But I think what IW set up is what wasn't fully delivered.
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In a way though IW was actually the unexpected film, it did carry on some of the existing hero plots but really the central plot was much more Thanos and his daughters which whilst it had been introduced before had never been fleshed out much. I think the result is IW actually felt like quite a self contained film were as End Game is much more a film following stories from the wider MCU, especially the Russo's Cap films.

I do think you really have to admire the way the Russo's and there writers have handled all of this, juggling so many plots and knowing which ones to focus on when is not easy. By comparison I think you can look at Ultron and see that Whedon couldn't really handle doing the same thing nearly as well.
 
I'd say 8 and a half. But I'll give it a 9.


Laughing at all the guys who were in Alex Jones levels of hysterics about how feminazi illuminati was going to have Captain Marvel beat Thanos alone and peg rest of the cast. She was barely in the film. Though, Scarlet Witch almost did whack Thanos.

Trailer Park Thor was a positive surprise but I think the joke was stretched a bit too long.

I didn't like that the Thanos they fought wasn't the Thanos whose day had extracted heavy toll in Infinity War. It wasn't the Thanos that had sacrificed his daughter. It wasn't the Thanos who had won.

The end battle , when it turned into a mass brawl felt a bit generic that has been seen already before. I think more focused battle of heroes vs a select few strong henchmen would've been better.

Random thoughts:
So, it is Asgardians of the Galaxy now? Looking for Gotg 3.

Wait, aren't they going to do Black Widow movie? Perhaps she came back to life when Cap returned the soul stone?

Wait, so the Cap (that went and stayed in the past) was just chilling out during all the previous events in previous Avengers films?

I guess the Ancient One wasn't chilling during Avengers 1.

I guess we get new Iron Man in 10-15 years with older Spider Man being the mentor to Tony's kid.

Strange didn't use Time Stone to bring Tony back like Thanos did to Vision?

Speaking of Time Stone, the one Strange had originally has now been destroyed and the one they borrowed has been returned, so Strange no longer has Time Stone?

Everyone who turned to ash was brought back 5 years later, hopefully no one had scaled back food production by 50%.
 
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heavyarms21 said:
On second viewing it's pretty clear Bucky was in on Steve Rogers staying in the past. Their exchange was a clear goodbye.
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Agreed. That is why Bucky gestured to Sam to go talk to him instead of himself. They must have also discussed his taking the mantle and agreed it wasn't for the best for whatever reason.
 
heavyarms21 said:
On second viewing it's pretty clear Bucky was in on Steve Rogers staying in the past. Their exchange was a clear goodbye.
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It was the same goodbye they shared when Bucky was going off to war in Cap 1.

 
Anung Un Rama said:
My impression was that Gamor died when Tony snapped Team Thanos to dust because Gamora, who just made nice with her sister, wasn't at the funeral, AND Quill is looking for her in space (how would she have gotten off the planet?). I figured they were tracking Gamora that was no-longer killed by Thanos.

BUT... Banner's snap only reversed what happened immediately after the snap, and nothing that happened in the 5 years since, so that would mean Thanos still kills Gamora. Online sites and a few posters ( @GoldenAzazel, @Dragonlordxxxxx ) say that 2014 Gamora went off on her own after the battle. They are probably right, but so am I just because.
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Maybe I'm misremembering but weren't the Guardians as a whole not at Starks funeral? I'd have thought if they wanted to have a major plot like Gamroa being killed by Starks finger snap they would have shown it and the way the last scene is played with Thor doesn't seem to suggest it either. So two Gamoras, one killed by Thanos and one who survives and is now with the Guardians.

I think the film also gives the impression that the soul stone sacrifices are something that cannot be reversed with the infinity stones, hence widow can't be brought back.

Time travel wise I think the idea is that when a paradox occurs it creates an alternate reality, so when Nebula is captured we get an alternate Thanos timeline in which he comes forward to the present created where as the existing Thanos timeline still happens setting up the events of IW.
 
heavyarms21 said:
On second viewing it's pretty clear Bucky was in on Steve Rogers staying in the past. Their exchange was a clear goodbye.
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I hadn't thought of that, but now that you mention it I think Bucky also pointed the rest in the direction of the bench where old Steve was sitting, and he didn't seem surprised at all in complete contrast to Sam
 
moreorless87 said:
Maybe I'm misremembering but weren't the Guardians as a whole not at Starks funeral? I'd have thought if they wanted to have a major plot like Gamroa being killed by Starks finger snap they would have shown it and the way the last scene is played with Thor doesn't seem to suggest it either. So two Gamoras, one killed by Thanos and one who survives and is now with the Guardians.
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I know Gamora was there. Can't remember if Quill or anybody else is. Important thing to remember is that even though Quill's Gamora has been dead for 5 years, for him its only been a few days. There is only 1 Gamora in this timeline; either the 2014 one, or the one Thanos sacrificed for the soul stone, and...

I think the film also gives the impression that the soul stone sacrifices are something that cannot be reversed with the infinity stones, hence widow can't be brought back.
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This is what makes me think the Gamora that is still alive is the one that doesn't know Starlord.
My theory, if this theory is correct, is that there will be some memory/ emotion restoration as part of the plot of Guardians Asgardians of the Galaxy III 1.

Time travel wise I think the idea is that when a paradox occurs it creates an alternate reality, so when Nebula is captured we get an alternate Thanos timeline in which he comes forward to the present created where as the existing Thanos timeline still happens setting up the events of IW.
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Agreed. there are definitely new timelines and paradoxes developed as a consequence of this caper.
Doctor Strange saw 14,000,000 different scenarios, those had to be alternate realities.
 
Just saw it.

Legit fucking 10/10 for me. As a culmination movie, literally over a decade in the making it was absolutely phenomenal. So many great scenes. A surprising amount of emotional weight to the film. Starting with the gut punch at the beginning.

Cap wielding Mjonlir was all I could have fucking wanted. It was the most badass scene in any comic book movie. Years in the making, hinted at in Age of Ultron and then Thor's reaction was great. Cap calling down the thunder, flying with the hammer, it was all fucking bad ass. Topped off with Sam's "On your left" and then the "Avengers Assemble." Just so damn good.
 
Protectandserve said:
Just saw it.

Legit fucking 10/10 for me. As a culmination movie, literally over a decade in the making it was absolutely phenomenal. So many great scenes. A surprising amount of emotional weight to the film. Starting with the gut punch at the beginning.

Cap wielding Mjonlir was all I could have fucking wanted. It was the most badass scene in any comic book movie. Years in the making, hinted at in Age of Ultron and then Thor's reaction was great. Cap calling down the thunder, flying with the hammer, it was all fucking bad ass. Topped off with Sam's "On your left" and then the "Avengers Assemble." Just so damn good.
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Yea, I definitely came.
 
Thanos beat Thor.

They suggested that Thanos might lose against Captain Marvel but he did not and we never found out.

Thanos did lose against Scarlett Witch and had to be saved by his army. But that was a coop moment as Wanda needed revenge for Vision and had always felt a bit underused and underpowered in past movies.

Overall everything was perfect. Hulk and Dr Strange rematches would have been nice though, I agree.
 
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